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Tdadlani

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With the watch being able to charge with wireless Qi pads, this could also be a game changer. They will be everywhere soon. Will be easy to top up a depleted watch at a local Starbucks...
 

redavis41

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I would imagine. I won't be surprised if Apple keeps that function locked until the release of their AirPower charging pad.
 

matrix07

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With the watch being able to charge with wireless Qi pads, this could also be a game changer. They will be everywhere soon. Will be easy to top up a depleted watch at a local Starbucks...

..and your iPhone 8 too.
 

edhchoe

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android phones have had wireless charging for decades.
starbucks never provided any wireless charging pads for them.
why would starbucks change now?
 

Cigsm

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Because the iPhone is the top selling phone in the world? That's why you see entire markets shift when Apple does something.

android phones have had wireless charging for decades.
starbucks never provided any wireless charging pads for them.
why would starbucks change now?
 

edhchoe

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Because the iPhone is the top selling phone in the world? That's why you see entire markets shift when Apple does something.

If you combine all the androids, Apple's share is only 14-15%.

2015[edit]

[46]

  • Samsung: 320.2197 million (22.5% market share)
  • Apple: 225.8506 million (15.9% market share)
  • Huawei: 104.0947 million (7.3% market share)
  • Lenovo: 72.7482 million (5.1% market share)
  • Xiaomi: 65.6186 million (4.6% market share)
  • Others: 635.3685 million (44.6% market share)
  • Total: 1423.9003 million (100% market share)
2016[edit]
[47]

  • Samsung: 306.4466 million (20.5% market share)
  • Apple: 216.0640 million (14.4% market share)
  • Huawei: 132.8249 million (8.9% market share)
  • OPPO: 85.2995 million (5.7% market share)
  • BBK Communication Equipment: 72.4086 million (4.8% market share)
  • Others: 682.3143 million (45.6% market share)
  • Total: 1,495.3580 million (100% market share)
 

matrix07

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2015[edit]
[46]

  • Samsung: 320.2197 million (22.5% market share)
  • Apple: 225.8506 million (15.9% market share)
  • Huawei: 104.0947 million (7.3% market share)
  • Lenovo: 72.7482 million (5.1% market share)
  • Xiaomi: 65.6186 million (4.6% market share)
  • Others: 635.3685 million (44.6% market share)
  • Total: 1423.9003 million (100% market share)
2016[edit]
[47]

  • Samsung: 306.4466 million (20.5% market share)
  • Apple: 216.0640 million (14.4% market share)
  • Huawei: 132.8249 million (8.9% market share)
  • OPPO: 85.2995 million (5.7% market share)
  • BBK Communication Equipment: 72.4086 million (4.8% market share)
  • Others: 682.3143 million (45.6% market share)
  • Total: 1,495.3580 million (100% market share)

Ah... the famous market share number again lol.
My housemaid using a Samsung so I hope Starbuck would treat her right then.

(How about number of Windows compared to OSX? and how many PC you see in starbuck compared to Macbook?)
 

edhchoe

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Ah... the famous market share number again lol.
My housemaid using a Samsung so I hope Starbuck would treat her right then.

(How about number of Windows compared to OSX? and how many PC you see in starbuck compared to Macbook?)

I was replying to the post that said Apple iphone is the top selling smartphone in the world.
My info is 100% more accurate than his.
 

matrix07

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I was replying to the post that said Apple iphone is the top selling smartphone in the world.
My info is 100% more accurate than his.

I think you should put things into context. It's clear he's talking about "premium" phones.
 

pezasied182

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Apparently, the watch is not QI compatible with all QI charging pads. Details are murky, but right now it seems like the watch will only work with Airpower pads (beyond already existing charging formats for the series 2).
 

edhchoe

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I think you should put things into context. It's clear he's talking about "premium" phones.
Galaxy phones and notes are premium and I bet a lot of galaxy owners drink starbucks as well.
Even if iphone 8 outsells galaxy 8, the cumulative android phones with wireless charging capability will out number iphone 8's for years.
 

matrix07

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Galaxy phones and notes are premium and I bet a lot of galaxy owners drink starbucks as well.
Even if iphone 8 outsells galaxy 8, the cumulative android phones with wireless charging capability will out number iphone 8's for years.

I doubt that.
I would hazard a guess that the cumulative premium phones will mainly be iPhone for a while.
 

edhchoe

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I doubt that.
I would hazard a guess that the cumulative premium phones will mainly be iPhone for a while.
galaxy S5 was the first Samsung premium phone with wireless charging. It came out in 2014. It has been 3 years since.
Starbucks has not done anything for those customers. even if they upgrade phones every 1.5 years that's 1.5 years worth of galaxy buyers frequenting starbucks for the last 1.5 years constantly.
what percentage of starbucks customers do you think own iphone?
If 60%, then what percentage of those will upgrade to iphone 8 or X? 50%?
Then 30% would benefit from the new wireless chargers at the shops.
I am being generous with the numbers here, IMO.
 

matrix07

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galaxy S5 was the first Samsung premium phone with wireless charging. It came out in 2014. It has been 3 years since.
Starbucks has not done anything for those customers. even if they upgrade phones every 1.5 years that's 1.5 years worth of galaxy buyers frequenting starbucks for the last 1.5 years constantly.
what percentage of starbucks customers do you think own iphone?
If 60%, then what percentage of those will upgrade to iphone 8 or X? 50%?
Then 30% would benefit from the new wireless chargers at the shops.
I am being generous with the numbers here, IMO.

I will never talk about speculative number but actual number I saw from pre-order has iPhone outnumber premium Galaxy 5 to 1 every year (the Apple phone profit number compared to entire industry, like 90%+, is another). Grant, only new iPhone this year will have wireless charging but the fact that Starbuck won't care for Android phones should tell you all you need to know.
We shall see will Starbuck attitude change now that iPhone coming into the picture but I wouldn't bet against it.
 

edhchoe

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I will never talk about speculative number but actual number I saw from pre-order has iPhone outnumber premium Galaxy 5 to 1 every year (the Apple phone profit number compared to entire industry, like 90%+, is another). Grant, only new iPhone this year will have wireless charging but the fact that Starbuck won't care for Android phones should tell you all you need to know.
We shall see will Starbuck attitude change now that iPhone coming into the picture but I wouldn't bet against it.
Our discussion was a waste of time from lack of research and information.

Starbucks cared about Android users.

That is an article from 2014.
 

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edhchoe

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I also never see this in my Starbucks. Where is it?
SF bay area according to the article.
Wireless charging is slow and maybe people do not have time to sit and wait for it to charge so maybe SB stopped the expansion of the service due to cost issues.
 

matrix07

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Wireless charging is slow and maybe people do not have time to sit and wait for it to charge so maybe SB stopped the expansion of the service due to cost issues.

The article was from 2014, 3 years ago. I would hazard a guess they thought wireless charging will be a thing then, then see Apple didn't move so shelved it. In short, they just never care for Android specifically. Apology if I hurt your feeling. ;)
 

edhchoe

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The article was from 2014, 3 years ago. I would hazard a guess they thought wireless charging will be a thing then, then see Apple didn't move so shelved it. In short, they just never care for Android specifically. Apology if I hurt your feeling. ;)
android users are early adopters. what can I say?
The world tried it and apple is copying it even though it was not publicly useful.
 

matrix07

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android users are early adopters. what can I say?
The world tried it and apple is copying it even though it was not publicly useful.

Android user is basically me 10 years ago. Now I'm changed. Just want something that doesn't need my attention too much.
 

Cigsm

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This doesn't change the fact that the iPhone is the top selling phone in the world.

Related note: Samesung releases nearly 100 phones a year.
Apple takes 93% of the profits of the ENTIRE industry



If you combine all the androids, Apple's share is only 14-15%.

2015[edit]

[46]

  • Samsung: 320.2197 million (22.5% market share)
  • Apple: 225.8506 million (15.9% market share)
  • Huawei: 104.0947 million (7.3% market share)
  • Lenovo: 72.7482 million (5.1% market share)
  • Xiaomi: 65.6186 million (4.6% market share)
  • Others: 635.3685 million (44.6% market share)
  • Total: 1423.9003 million (100% market share)
2016[edit]
[47]

  • Samsung: 306.4466 million (20.5% market share)
  • Apple: 216.0640 million (14.4% market share)
  • Huawei: 132.8249 million (8.9% market share)
  • OPPO: 85.2995 million (5.7% market share)
  • BBK Communication Equipment: 72.4086 million (4.8% market share)
  • Others: 682.3143 million (45.6% market share)
  • Total: 1,495.3580 million (100% market share)
 

edhchoe

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I try to keep myself up to date with the technology. I have both iphone and android
This doesn't change the fact that the iPhone is the top selling phone in the world.

Related note: Samesung releases nearly 100 phones a year.
Apple takes 93% of the profits of the ENTIRE industry
Profit margin is a different argument.
Units shipped is what the data shows and how many Starbucks stores see each day. Profit margin of Apple has absolutely nothing to do with how many phones go to Starbucks.
 

matrix07

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With the watch being able to charge with wireless Qi pads, this could also be a game changer. They will be everywhere soon. Will be easy to top up a depleted watch at a local Starbucks...


Kind of shock news. John Gruber stated in his new article that Series 3 and new AirPods case in fact isn't compatible with QI, only with AirPower.
John Gruber said:
Apple Watch and the AirPod case are not Qi devices — you cannot charge them on a Qi charging pad.
 

edhchoe

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Kind of shock news. John Gruber stated in his new article that Series 3 and new AirPods case in fact isn't compatible with QI, only with AirPower.
Typical apple closed ecosystem = proprietary jail system.
 
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