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Originalblez

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I've never had a web compatibility problem with mine, but what you're describing sounds like a need for improvements to Safari, not a complete transplant of the OS. Changing the OS doesn't make a difference in this case at all.
Yes the browser is still behind the desktop experience for some specialist sites - web apps like Jira for example. Then there are specialist sites like Miro or Mural that offer a native iPad app that basically sucks but can’t just render the browser based versions they do on the Mac.

iPad OS has a few gaps that would make it - not a replacement for the Mac - but an equally capable tool.
 

Originalblez

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My 13” iPad m4 1tb (with cellular!) will be used to mirror my 14” M3 mbp screen for best of both worlds touch control on macOS when needed for my music production.

Otherwise, I’m hoping to tinker a lot and build ideas with Logic Pro 2 for iPad. There’s nothing else quite like it.

Aside from that I’ll also be using it to practice freestyling and writing rhymes. And journaling with the sweet new pencil pro.

Oh, also to edit album art.

And to edit music videos.

And also, will use it to edit my streaming endeavors, and in general, it will become my main device, and even if I ever wanted to use my mbp… I’ll probably only do so in mirror mode, connected with a cable, using Apple Pencil and touch to navigate macOS in bed.

I will also use it as a whiteboard in Freeform.

I was a longtime holdout on iPads and also hadn’t discovered my calling yet, so getting it for productivity was fruitless before.

Gave away my first and favorite 13” iPad Pro, the last one they released before M1 became a thing. Gave away my favorite iPad mini 6.

Finally getting the iPad of my dreams (no nano glass though, I prefer glossy for the darkest possible blacks and crispest text on oled) and I can’t wait.

13” is a bit big for the way I want to use it, but 11” is also too big for my most preferred use cases (holding it above my face while lying down facing the ceiling) so might as well get the biggest.

Also, multitasking is kind of silly on the 11”. The 2” diagonal is an insane amount of added real estate, so for people who truly want to use their iPad Pro for productivity, I can’t in good conscience argue for the 11”.

Yes it’s amazing that it would perform just as well as the 13”, but as an especially finicky person, I’ve learned that my least favorite part of touchscreen interfaces is moving around the screen with scrolls and zooming with pinching and reverse-pinching and such. Can’t stand it in fact. The 11” inherently has a lot more of this. Especially when it’s in multitasking mode…

Oh and only the 13” is apple’s thinnest device ever. 11” doesn’t qualify. I’m looking forward to experiencing that!

I’ll also be able to connect it to my studio display, and to my mbp as an additional screen with Touch Bar if needed.

So cool!
The 1TB with 16GB RAM gnaws at me - I always worry about having enough RAM. I ordered the lower spec one - 8GB on iPad OS is more than enough, and the extra cost seems crazy. But… what if… what if Apple announces some crazy capabilities on iPad OS 18 that hoover up that memory?
 

Originalblez

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You can use other browser on iPad Pro, I have Brave for anything safari doesnt support or for sites with ton of Ads.
Do those other browsers not just use the same core WebKit engine as Safari? That’s not the case on the Mac obviously.
 

Originalblez

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I use a computer for a lot of document writing and serious code development tasks. If I need a keyboard, I tend to use my MBP. I have a keyboard for my iPad, but mostly use it when I only want to carry one thing (or on an airplane where I put the 16" in overhead and use the smaller iPad on the tray table).



The iPad is much better for note taking. Typing notes is ok, but it doesn't serve the purpose of embedding those notes in my memory like writing them long hand does. Plus I can much more easily include sketches, arrows, write in the margins, write things in non-linear time order etc. I can write math directly without having to distract my brain with esoteric LaTeX notation. I can select and reorder stuff, change colors, underline, emphasize, circle, cross out... All the stuff we used to do on paper but lost when we got forced to keyboards and mice.

I use my iPad for document review and markup. It's a much more tangible experience to be able to view a whole page in portrait and point the pencil exactly where I want to draw a circle, and scribble notes. It's back to the paper workflow that I always preferred, but digital.

I can sketch and illustrate. I'm not an artist, but drawings are an easier way to convey information in most cases and not everything can be easily drawn using squares, triangles and circles and the trackpad makes a horrible stylus. I can quickly scribble my crappy little drawings and cut and paste them into a document or just as easily select and cut from the iPad and paste into the Mac.

I do use my iPad sometimes to run Jupyter notebooks through Juno (I can't recommend that application enough!). I have text editors and a Git client (Working Copy, also excellent). I generally prefer to do development tasks on a bigger screen, but there are times I intentionally move to my iPad and keyboard because the change of context and single app paradigm sometimes helps me focus. I keep a development folder sync'd to my Mac via iCloud that makes it easy to switch back and forth. I can terminal into remote machines when needed.

I run Logic on it, which is remarkably capable-- it replaces my pedalboard, amp, effects and DAW. This is another place where touch is a much more natural interface-- adjusting knobs, cutting and mixing, etc. I also have Logic on my Mac, but never use it there. It's not convenient to interact with when holding or standing behind an instrument. It also captures MIDI nicely. I'm not a professional musician, mind you, so I'm not sitting down and doing hardcore sound engineering and mastering.

I'll use AnyTune to slow down tracks to learn. Again, I don't need a desk and keyboard, I want to scroll through a song, set some loop marks, adjust the playback speed, and play along.

Kids love it when I open the virtual instruments on screen and they can hit all the drums or stab at the piano. I'm much more comfortable with them slapping away at my solid, rigid iPad than I would be them hitting a Macbook in the same way.

I include it in my camera bag every time I go out. I have it bluetooth connected to my Nikon Z8 so it's constantly providing GPS coordinates and time to the images and downloading copies of each for review on a larger display than the one on the camera. This saves my phone battery and gives me a much better screen to look at. I can look at the shots I've taken and if I'm stopped for lunch or something, edit them in Affinity Photo.

Yes, it's an excellent media consumption device. I think you're selling it a bit short with a focus on "touch" games. I'm not a big gamer, but I do have a few that I enjoy and have a Xbox controller paired with it. That makes for a very portable console setup.

When I'm mobile and only carrying my iPad, I rely on it for browsing, email, messaging, maps, etc. When I have my iPad and laptop, it makes an excellent, portable, second display.


All of those things are better on the iPad than they would be carrying a Mac around.
+1 for Juno
 
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Originalblez

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That may well be true and if I was in the EU not the UK. I could have that ability later in the year to install maybe a better browser for my usage like Firefox with ublock origin and it would work fine. I’m still not going to spend £1300 on a 256 GB M4 iPad which is until I see different chronically gimped by iPadOS. I’m quite happy to carry on using the one I’ve got even though it is getting old. Hopefully we’ll see some major software changes this year and then I might be tempted.

I just really wish they hadn’t reduced its thickness and removed the sim card slot because I only ever use that in an emergency if there was no Wi-Fi because I could just stick a sim card in it and use the data for when I needed, it now I can’t even do that because there isn’t as far as I know in the UK any eSIM providers that have prepaid data sims or even a pay as you go data sim I can top and just use when I need it in the eSIM format. That limitation really put me off the M4 iPad. It just didn’t need to be that thin in my opinion especially considering its size and the one I’ve got is a 12.9 inch pro and that definitely flexes when you pick it up so it’ll be interesting to see what the new ones are like.
I am simultaneously cross at the British people for the stupidity of Brexit and at Apple for being dicks about how they implement EU directives locally only to the EU.
 

ssledoux

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lets not forget the feature more influencers are excited about... the horizontal camera...:rolleyes:

I’m actually pretty excited about it. I face time my grandkids a lot, and my iPad is always in landscape because of my Magic Keyboard. The camera being on the side drives me nuts. After I bought them their 10th generation ipads, I knew I’d be getting an Air or Pro with landscape camera.
 

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I’m actually pretty excited about it. I face time my grandkids a lot, and my iPad is always in landscape because of my Magic Keyboard. The camera being on the side drives me nuts. After I bought them their 10th generation ipads, I knew I’d be getting an Air or Pro with landscape camera.
it is annoying when holding it in landscape
 
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cambookpro

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A few years ago, I set out to rewrite the first app I released to the App Store (original release: August 2008). After a bit of consideration, I realized that this could be done competently using only iOS/iPadOS devices for every task in the effort.

Using Swift Playgrounds, I rewrote and modernized old code using Swift/SwiftUI. Working Copy (truly excellent, as mentioned elsewhere in this thread) served as my interface to GitHub. Files moved bits and pieces around, and Pixelmator enabled visual comps to be constructed. San Fransymbols (also excellent) enabled SF Symbols lookup and enhanced previews. App Store Connect was the worst part of the workflow, though I just used Apple’s web interface most of the time for this task (just as I do on the Mac). TestFlight distributed builds to my development devices, and lastly Translate helped me with initial drafts for localization needs.

All of these tools are readily available on the iPad, and for very reasonable costs (or often just for free). My physical hardware is a M1 iPad Pro 11, along with a Magic Keyboard and a Magic Mouse (less occasionally used).

10+ hour portable battery life, seamless WiFi/5G connectivity, an excellent screen, a very good-feeling keyboard, and a good old mechanical trackpad ‘click’ make development on this ~2lb/1kg device a joy (as much as app engineering/development can be called a ‘joy’). I consider the 11 Pro with a Magic Keyboard the best portable device Apple has ever produced.

I began the effort a few years ago with the question ‘Can I really use this tool to make and maintain a mature, production-quality app?’

The answer turned out to be ‘yes’. Created by iOS, for iOS. A journey that’s come full circle.

Edit: To directly answer the thread’s original question - I’m going to be doing more of all of this
Thank you for the kind words about San Fransymbols :) I've also been trying the same - developing and rewriting apps using Swift Playgrounds, prototyping UI in Keynote/Affinity, and managing my App Store Connect account in Safari. When it works, it works really well as a lightweight development platform.

(As an aside, the next version of San Fransymbols is in the works to support the new symbols and symbol effects in SF Symbols 6. If you have any feedback or feature requests, please drop me a private message.)
 
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Onimusha370

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Scroll in safari, view pictures, watch Netflix, watch sport. There was a time I wanted my iPad to replace my MacBook Pro, but letting the iPad be an iPad and using my MacBook Pro for heavy lifting is actually pretty liberating :)
 
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redman042

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Among many other things, go back through my extensive collection of travel photos and videos and enjoy them in all their HDR glory on the OLED display at max brightness.

Actually I’m doing that now. It’s glorious. This display makes my photos look terrific. And it’s pretty wild how bright this display gets.
 
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