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So if there's no idicator light how does one quit an app? I don't need an app that I'm not using use CPU power thus draining my battery
 
So if there's no idicator light how does one quit an app? I don't need an app that I'm not using use CPU power thus draining my battery

Auto-resuming apps just like in iOS. I have every single one of my iPhone apps 'open' and they do not touch my battery life or overall performance unless I'm actively using them. No need for the indicator light. No need to quit unless the App is malfunctioning.

If Apple do this right, this is going to be big.
 
Auto-resuming apps just like in iOS. I have every single one of my iPhone apps 'open' and they do not touch my battery life or overall performance unless I'm actively using them. No need for the indicator light. No need to quit unless the App is malfunctioning.

If Apple do this right, this is going to be big.

Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification.
 
I'd say the lack of application 'lights' was because it was not a final version of Lion. Don't forget how many aspects of that 'demonstration' were not even close to Mac OSX as we know it; the status bar (top-right) didn't have any icons for a start. Even if it was intended, Apple are know to tinker with designs for testing :)
 
it used to be free while it was still in beta. The final version only came out today.

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Yeah I'm pretty sure there will be some major UI changes..

here are my thoughts about what you said:

Things I hope to see
- New Application & System Icons (yeah, I just hope they don't go all like iTunes and the Mac AppStore)
- New Theme - Trash Aqua :p (bring it on!)
- Customizable Dock (not a bad idea; but Apple doesn't really let us customize a lot of things :p)
- Uninstaller (yeah, it'd be good to have one)
- Cut Feature (that is the ONE and only thing I miss from Windows)
- Window Snap Feature - similar to win 7 (I don't think so)
- Even Faster Boot Times and OS performance (won't say no to MOAR SPEAD!!!)
 
I'd say the lack of application 'lights' was because it was not a final version of Lion. Don't forget how many aspects of that 'demonstration' were not even close to Mac OSX as we know it; the status bar (top-right) didn't have any icons for a start. Even if it was intended, Apple are know to tinker with designs for testing :)

Apple has intentionally removed it.

But you're right, it's a beta version. Apple had made changes to Mac OS X that the mass didn't like in the past, so they reverted back. One example would be Mac OS X Public Beta. The Apple logo in the menubar was in the middle. The people hated it so they changed back to the left.

Let's hope this is also the case for Lion. I really don't want apps running without me knowing and draining my battery.
 
here are my thoughts about what you said:

Things I hope to see
- New Application & System Icons (yeah, I just hope they don't go all like iTunes and the Mac AppStore)
- New Theme - Trash Aqua :p (bring it on!)
- Customizable Dock (not a bad idea; but Apple doesn't really let us customize a lot of things :p)
- Uninstaller (yeah, it'd be good to have one)
- Cut Feature (that is the ONE and only thing I miss from Windows)
- Window Snap Feature - similar to win 7 (I don't think so)
- Even Faster Boot Times and OS performance (won't say no to MOAR SPEAD!!!)

Some personal opinions here:
New Icons - The simple Aqua icons look phenomenally great. I don't see a need to change them.
New Theme - A theme adopted from iOS would be great. (Seems they are doing that right now)
Customizable Dock - What's that?
Uninstaller - Don't move your past Windows experiences to the Mac. Most Mac apps just need to be trashed and they'll be fine.
Cut Feature - DESPARATELY NEEDED
Windows Snap - I want this too, but it's not going to happen.
Speed Increment - Of course.
 
^^ Like Phil said you can turn the lights back on...

Just go to system prefs -> Dock -> check Show Indicator Lights for Open Applications -> Done
 
This may have already been said but there is an option in System Preferences to view the lights on the dock again!

Yay! Although using lion for a bit, I see no need!
 
I still don't understand the reasoning behind removing the indicator.

To the beta users. How do you know that iChat is running for example if you don't have the indicator turned on? Or that mail program runs and receives mails?
 
I still don't understand the reasoning behind removing the indicator.

To the beta users. How do you know that iChat is running for example if you don't have the indicator turned on? Or that mail program runs and receives mails?
Cmd+Tab?

If Lion is suspending apps when not in use it won't affect CPU performance, battery life, etc. at all if they're running or not.
 
Cmd+Tab?

If Lion is suspending apps when not in use it won't affect CPU performance, battery life, etc. at all if they're running or not.

I don't think suspending apps is possible like in iOS. How will Lion know that an app can be suspended? And what does suspend mean for a big game like WOW. Will I be logged out if it gets suspended?

In iOS suspending is possible because apps have to use explicit services if they want to run in the background. I have no Idea how Apple will achieve this without forcing developers to rewrite apps to support suspending...
 
I do love all the cosmetic changes in Lion and absolutely LOVE the new Expose feature that brings back proper window management but the status indicator of applications running in the dock seems to be gone. :eek:

Mac OS X is RAM hungry as it is. Lion with its instant on features may be crawling even more if all apps in the Dock are pre-loaded into the memory.

You have the option to turn it back on in sys/prefs.
 
OS X has been able to suspend apps since 10.0. It happens automatically in the background when OS X finds that an app isn't using resources. When you click on an app sometimes in the dock, and your machine lurches for a second, the app is being unpacked.
 
There is a Setting

I don't know if anyone told you guys this yet (forgive me if I am repeating someone else's information) but there IS a setting for indicators. In the Dock preferences, you can turn on the indication lights. See? Apple thinks everything though.
 
I am getting confused how this suspend works for apps

say for example i am using handbrake to rip a dvd

If i am actually ripping a dvd and switch to another app, handbrake will continue in the background as it does now

If handbrake is open but not doing anything and I switch to another app it will get suspended and its resources will be free for something else
 
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