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So you don't use a smart phone, then?
What year is your laptop?


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Lmfao 5-10 years.

5 to 10 years is quite reasonable and possible.

To answer your skepticism...

I just upgraded to an iPhone 7 with 256 GB a few months back for only one reason... to replace stolen equipment that I was still happily using with no issue.

My iPhone 7 replaced an iPhone 5 with 16 GB, and a iPod Classic 160 GB which were both purchased brand new, and were still serving me just fine.

The iPhone 5 was new in 2012. So that was 6 years.

The iPod Classic was new in 2009. So that was 9 years.

Both would still be my primary devices if it hadn’t been for theft.

As for my portable... it is my newest computer. And it is 5 years old and currently running Windows 10. I have absolutely no intention of replacing it. I expect 5 years from now, it will still be in use.

I do have a company issued laptop that is only a few weeks old. But that is only used while doing tasks specific to that company. For security reasons and their control system. By contract I don’t do any of their work on my machines, and I don’t do any of my personal stuff (or other businesses stuff) on their machine. Even a simple google search is a violation if it’s not for their tasks. So I carry my own laptop and will switch to that for personal stuff while I’m on the road.

If you look at my signature, you’ll see the Mac Pro which has been in use now for 12 years. And the 2009 iMac that I recently acquired only because it was free and the local Apple Store said it was unrepairable. So I happened to notice it, and they were going to dispose of it. So they gave it to me. I brought it home, reset it, and it’s been a good media server.

Otherwise, I have several PC computers as workstations around the house that are from 2004 to 2006 that serve the needs of my kids as Windows 10 desktops.

And I run 3 Apple TV 3rd generation boxes to handle streaming music and movies to my televisions and home audio system (full house audio and video). Those pull their media from the free 2009 iMac.

The 2006 Mac Pro is my primary workstation station for rendering / encoding audio and video.

And I recently picked up an Apple TV 4th generation to add to another television location, simply because the used 3rd generation was priced too highly by local sellers compared to the new 4th generation model that I bought on sale. This one is to use in addition to the older models I have. It’s not replacing anything.

Nothing in my inventory is slated for replacement in the next 5 to 10 years. And most of it has already been with me for 5 to 10 years.

I don’t buy anything unless I have long term plans for it, and a vision of how it will continue to serve me in the future.
 
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5 to 10 years is quite reasonable and possible.
I get what you're saying, and it's reasonable for you, however... at least for me, there's no way i'd be able to handle the slower speeds and lagging associated with devices that old. There's new technology that you're just not taking advantage of. Sure everything you have works, but you'd be surprised at how much time you waste on an overall basis when you consider how much slower your old devices are. Again, it depends on what you use the devices for. If all you do is text and make phone calls, an iphone 5 is perfectly fine. If you play games, use apps, take photos and videos, use data, or do any cpu intensive activity, that is a completely different story in my opinion.
 
I get what you're saying, and it's reasonable for you, however... at least for me, there's no way i'd be able to handle the slower speeds and lagging associated with devices that old. There's new technology that you're just not taking advantage of. Sure everything you have works, but you'd be surprised at how much time you waste on an overall basis when you consider how much slower your old devices are. Again, it depends on what you use the devices for. If all you do is text and make phone calls, an iphone 5 is perfectly fine. If you play games, use apps, take photos and videos, use data, or do any cpu intensive activity, that is a completely different story in my opinion.

That’s a matter of personal perspective.

I don’t play games. I do stuff. If I have time for games, I’d rather be socializing with friends or working on my house.

I do take photos, text, email, business correspondence, etc. but I also do a lot of work with music, video, etc.

I personally find no lag in performance with my Mac Pro. And when it’s encoding, I do other work. I balance a lot of different types of work. And move between a lot of different occupational fields all day long. So for my workflow, there is zero lag. My efficiency exceeds all necessity. I take on more contracts in more fields constantly. My problem is getting work done too fast. So I need to pull in more to keep myself busy. My most recent venture cleared a 3 month backlog for a client in a week. Now their other guys don’t have any work to do. And I’m still pulling more in anywhere I can. So I’m really not observing any lag. They’ve got new and top of the line hardware. But that’s not the issue.
 
5 to 10 years is quite reasonable and possible.

To answer your skepticism...

I just upgraded to an iPhone 7 with 256 GB a few months back for only one reason... to replace stolen equipment that I was still happily using with no issue.

My iPhone 7 replaced an iPhone 5 with 16 GB, and a iPod Classic 160 GB which were both purchased brand new, and were still serving me just fine.

The iPhone 5 was new in 2012. So that was 6 years.

The iPod Classic was new in 2009. So that was 9 years.

Both would still be my primary devices if it hadn’t been for theft.

As for my portable... it is my newest computer. And it is 5 years old and currently running Windows 10. I have absolutely no intention of replacing it. I expect 5 years from now, it will still be in use.

I do have a company issued laptop that is only a few weeks old. But that is only used while doing tasks specific to that company. For security reasons and their control system. By contract I don’t do any of their work on my machines, and I don’t do any of my personal stuff (or other businesses stuff) on their machine. Even a simple google search is a violation if it’s not for their tasks. So I carry my own laptop and will switch to that for personal stuff while I’m on the road.

If you look at my signature, you’ll see the Mac Pro which has been in use now for 12 years. And the 2009 iMac that I recently acquired only because it was free and the local Apple Store said it was unrepairable. So I happened to notice it, and they were going to dispose of it. So they gave it to me. I brought it home, reset it, and it’s been a good media server.

Otherwise, I have several PC computers as workstations around the house that are from 2004 to 2006 that serve the needs of my kids as Windows 10 desktops.

And I run 3 Apple TV 3rd generation boxes to handle streaming music and movies to my televisions and home audio system (full house audio and video). Those pull their media from the free 2009 iMac.

The 2006 Mac Pro is my primary workstation station for rendering / encoding audio and video.

And I recently picked up an Apple TV 4th generation to add to another television location, simply because the used 3rd generation was priced too highly by local sellers compared to the new 4th generation model that I bought on sale. This one is to use in addition to the older models I have. It’s not replacing anything.

Nothing in my inventory is slated for replacement in the next 5 to 10 years. And most of it has already been with me for 5 to 10 years.

I don’t buy anything unless I have long term plans for it, and a vision of how it will continue to serve me in the future.

You must have replaced the battery in that time though. If somebody wanted to stick with Apple installed batteries (not an unreasonable position) then the cost of a new battery in an old product typically outweighs it’s total value. Better to spend that money on a more up to date (but still comparatively old) device. I hope that makes sense.
 
I've only ever sold an old phone, an old Treo 12 or so years ago. For my iPhones, the 3G was not used after my 18 months. The 4 was given away, and used 4 years after my 2 years. The 5 given away (used for about 3 years afterwards until the battery bulged), and my 7+ (I kept as a backup).
 
You must have replaced the battery in that time though. If somebody wanted to stick with Apple installed batteries (not an unreasonable position) then the cost of a new battery in an old product typically outweighs it’s total value. Better to spend that money on a more up to date (but still comparatively old) device. I hope that makes sense.

I did replace the battery in the iPhone 5 last year. Weighed it against a new phone for my purposes, and it was the most cost effective option. The battery replacement was $100. And a new phone was $500+ to purchase outright (going with an SE or higher). So I elected to replace the battery and save $400. The newer phones were not compelling enough to justify the additional $400.

My iPod Classic was still on its original battery.

My iPhone 7 w/ 256 GB only became a cost effective option when I compared the price of replacement separate equipment after the theft of my old equipment.

But definitely everyone will have different perspectives.

My main point was simply to buy for long term instead of incremental steps. It’s less wasteful. Saves landfills. Saves environmental effects (manufacturing materials, etc.), and saves money.

Buying annually really doesn’t make sense except for having the latest tech. But buying with a vision of the future can save a ton of money.
 
I did replace the battery in the iPhone 5 last year. Weighed it against a new phone for my purposes, and it was the most cost effective option. The battery replacement was $100. And a new phone was $500+ to purchase outright (going with an SE or higher). So I elected to replace the battery and save $400. The newer phones were not compelling enough to justify the additional $400.

Wow, that’s expensive. A year ago here in the U.K. you could get a brand new SE 32GB, no contract, for £280. They currently sell for £200.
 
Wow, that’s expensive. A year ago here in the U.K. you could get a brand new SE 32GB, no contract, for £280. They currently sell for £200.

Yeah. It was for used phones with a 90 day warranty. New ones were more expensive. I priced Apple, and the local carriers. Even Craigslist was higher (and more risky given the odds of getting a stolen phone).

My iPhone 7 w/ 256 GB was $750 a few months ago as a used phone with a 90 day warranty. It was still my cheapest option for a no contract cash purchase phone (Apple online was more expensive at the time when I priced for phones with the same capacity - because I needed the space to replace the iPod).
 
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