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yes, i would order it the day it came out. by the way, about a week after Toshiba announced the 1.8" 240GB HDD, they out did themselves and announced a 250GB 1.8" HDD, so i would buy either one of them in a heartbeat. does anyone know if there is any evidence to support that Apple is working on a 250GB iPod classic?

Noooo idea...should be a 256GB SSD, but considering that the one used in the 17" MBP is nine hundred bucks, I doubt it'll be anytime soon. :D I'd say the classic will have a hard drive until 320GB, then it'll drop down a bit to a 256GB SSD. ;)
 
Really? A million? Talk about a subjective statement. When you figure out how to listen to 10 days worth of music in one day, let me know.



Hmm, I suggest looking back and re-read what I wrote before posting. :rolleyes: No kidding no one can possibly listen to 10 days worth of music in one day. Not once did I mention anything about listening to it in one day. In fact i DID say something about a month, correct? How about longer? Ever take a vacation? Do you go on work trips cross country every week? And for your "one day" statement, again, I DID mention that how am I supposed to know what I want to listen to on a particular day when I'm in a particular mood when I have 18,000 songs that I love? My god, you people with your closed minds...
 
Ever watch videos?

No. I suppose this line of thought has some merit; how do the file sizes of a 2-hour movie compare to 2 hours of music?

In fact i DID say something about a month, correct? How about longer? Ever take a vacation? Do you go on work trips cross country every week?

When I go on vacation I don't spend it plugged into my iPod, computer, or generally any other type of electronic device if I can help it. In any case, your argument is slightly strengthened by increasing the length of time you are away from your computer to update it, but this is a) arbitrary, b) can go on for as long as you want so it looks like a legitimate train of thought, and c) doesn't get to the root of the issue. Iff your tastes are so eclectic that you go to the "songs" playlist, turn the shuffle on, and then are disappointed at the end of the day when you didn't hear "Moonlight Serenade" because your 160 GB iPod didn't have enough space to fit it in, then this dilemma goes on forever. A year from now you'll be complaining about how there's no 320 GB iPod, and then how there's no 500 GB iPod the next year. You might as well not buy iPods because they'll never have enough space to keep pace with the size of people's collections (or at least not in the near future).

As much as you hate to admit it, you are capable of picking and choosing what to put on your iPod such that you won't be disappointed with your selection.

And for your "one day" statement, again, I DID mention that how am I supposed to know what I want to listen to on a particular day when I'm in a particular mood when I have 18,000 songs that I love? My god, you people with your closed minds...

Sorry, but to say you "love" 18,000 songs dilutes all meaning of the word. What you really mean is that there are 18,000 you don't mind listening to.

As for determining your mood, why not select a sample for each of the possible moods you'll be in? Make your own genres: "Angry", "Emo", "Illogical." Then make use of the Play Count feature of iTunes to select which ones you'll be more likely to listen to based on past history. The world is your oyster.
 
No. I suppose this line of thought has some merit; how do the file sizes of a 2-hour movie compare to 2 hours of music?



When I go on vacation I don't spend it plugged into my iPod, computer, or generally any other type of electronic device if I can help it. In any case, your argument is slightly strengthened by increasing the length of time you are away from your computer to update it, but this is a) arbitrary, b) can go on for as long as you want so it looks like a legitimate train of thought, and c) doesn't get to the root of the issue. Iff your tastes are so eclectic that you go to the "songs" playlist, turn the shuffle on, and then are disappointed at the end of the day when you didn't hear "Moonlight Serenade" because your 160 GB iPod didn't have enough space to fit it in, then this dilemma goes on forever. A year from now you'll be complaining about how there's no 320 GB iPod, and then how there's no 500 GB iPod the next year. You might as well not buy iPods because they'll never have enough space to keep pace with the size of people's collections (or at least not in the near future).

As much as you hate to admit it, you are capable of picking and choosing what to put on your iPod such that you won't be disappointed with your selection.



Sorry, but to say you "love" 18,000 songs dilutes all meaning of the word. What you really mean is that there are 18,000 you don't mind listening to.

As for determining your mood, why not select a sample for each of the possible moods you'll be in? Make your own genres: "Angry", "Emo", "Illogical." Then make use of the Play Count feature of iTunes to select which ones you'll be more likely to listen to based on past history. The world is your oyster.

Again, you listening habits have proven to be 'better' than mine. Thank you for your lesson in how I should listen to my music, go on vacation, work, determine my moods, what 'love' is haha :rolleyes: the ONLY true fact in this entire thread is that yes, some people DO need an iPod with a higher capacity. Just because YOU don't and are perfectly happy either listening to the same thing or enjoy checking off thousands of tracks figuring out what the hell to put on your iPod every day/week/whatever doesn't mean that everyone else does. It fits MY needs. I have better things to do.
 
No... I used to have the 80GB iPod because I thought I needed ALL of my media on my iPod. Instead now with my iPhone, I have a "smart playlist" that loads up 7 gigs of music, sorted by most played. So with this setup, I'm able to have most of my commonly listened to music with me. Hopefully the next iPhone will have a 32GB option and I can bump my 7 gigs of music up to an even higher amount.
 
If you don't mind an iPod 5G rather than a classic, you can get a compatible 240GB hard drive from here. $300 is quite a lot, but I'm sure some people will be happy to pay that much.

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There's a thread about it here.
 
It Depends

Well, it depends, if you like a lot of movies, music vids, TV shows, etc,etc, yea sure, but if you like your music and music videos a lot, no way. The 240 gig is totally not necessary for most music listeners in my opinion.
 
Well, it depends, if you like a lot of movies, music vids, TV shows, etc,etc, yea sure, but if you like your music and music videos a lot, no way. The 240 gig is totally not necessary for most music listeners in my opinion.

Ya and I would like to use it to do backups with it and store/move files. So I would pretty much just like an external hard drive called an iPod.:p

David
 
Yes, there is always a "chance" you'll want to hear it. But if not being able to listen to one song when you have a maximum of 159.96 GB of other music to choose from is going to ruin your day, then you've got bigger issues to sort out than fussing over the iPod Classic.

Yeah, I've got issues. The issue is that I like to leave an iPod at my office (where I have no ability to sync or change music), and I don't want to have to take it back and forth, and not to mention the almost daily "Have you ever heard [obscure song x]" conversations I have with my co-workers.

Look, I realize this is a convenience thing. But isn't that what the iPod is all about? A convenient way to haul around music. If you're cool with your Shuffle or whatever, more power to you. I, personally, would like an iPod (in the Classic style) that holds (much) more than the current model.
 
Yeah, I've got issues. The issue is that I like to leave an iPod at my office (where I have no ability to sync or change music), and I don't want to have to take it back and forth, and not to mention the almost daily "Have you ever heard [obscure song x]" conversations I have with my co-workers.

Look, I realize this is a convenience thing. But isn't that what the iPod is all about? A convenient way to haul around music. If you're cool with your Shuffle or whatever, more power to you. I, personally, would like an iPod (in the Classic style) that holds (much) more than the current model.

I sympathize with you. It's not like the iPod was designed to be put in your pocket or anything. :rolleyes: On the other hand, in the first paragraph you say you don't want to bring your iPod back and forth with you to work- but then in the second you espouse the convenience of the iPod as a way to "haul around music." You seem to be contradicting yourself.

Again, you listening habits have proven to be 'better' than mine. Thank you for your lesson in how I should listen to my music, go on vacation, work, determine my moods, what 'love' is haha :rolleyes: the ONLY true fact in this entire thread is that yes, some people DO need an iPod with a higher capacity. Just because YOU don't and are perfectly happy either listening to the same thing or enjoy checking off thousands of tracks figuring out what the hell to put on your iPod every day/week/whatever doesn't mean that everyone else does. It fits MY needs. I have better things to do.

You repeatedly misinterpret what I am saying to you. Go back, read carefully, and then respond instead of typing the first thing that comes to mind. The concept of "Need" is subjective in itself. You are just making obstacles for yourself and are not allowing your brain to see just how ridiculous your position is.

I'm with you on the annoyance of the checkboxes- they're too tiny and are an extremely inefficient way of managing things. Thats why I avoid using iTunes whenever possible. Look into Rockbox or Floola for easier ways of managing your library.
 
yes, i would order it the day it came out. by the way, about a week after Toshiba announced the 1.8" 240GB HDD, they out did themselves and announced a 250GB 1.8" HDD, so i would buy either one of them in a heartbeat. does anyone know if there is any evidence to support that Apple is working on a 250GB iPod classic?

Apple could be selling a 240 GB iPod now. One think that Apple has, and we don't, is the actual sales figures for the 80GB and 160GB iPods. When the 120GB was released, Apple apparently figured out that they wouldn't sell very many with 240GB. Everyone who bought 80GB would now buy 120GB. Plus some who bought 160GB would also now buy 120GB, leaving not that many for 240GB.
 
Honestly, no offense to you personally, but there are literally a million different reasons why a person would want to have all their music in one place. Why is 120GB ok to have but not 240? Why do you need 120GB? Why do you need 60GB? Why 30? Everyone's collections are different and everyone's music listening habits/needs are different.

I agree with this point though I am not one with the massive music library. Just because I don't have that doesn't mean that I know the tastes of others. For me I don't think I've ever had more than 500-600 songs in my iTunes or on my iPhone at any given time. Too much selection.

The thing that does get me though is that people who have these massive libraries -- do you guys just rip entire cd's? I only have the songs I like...could care less about having a complete album. Is that how you guys fill up massive amounts of GB's of music? By ripping the WHOLE album?
 
We need maximum capacity AND maximum sound quality

I assume that the iPod classic is now mostly aimed at the serious music lover, who has huge collections and prefer lossless audio. Because of this, Apple should give the Classic users the largest capacity possible and the best sound quality possible. Thinness is not the most important factor for an audiophile. I would definitely buy a 240GB iPod Classic, provided that Apple improved the sound quality in the Classic, which I hear is worse than in the 5G and 5.5G models.

I really want to buy a new Classic, because the 30GB in my 5.5G iPod doesn't go very far with lossless, but I'm holding out for the next model, hoping that they will improve on the sound quality. Apparently they use a Cirrus Logic chip in the Classic but a Wolfson chip in the 5.5G.
 
I haven't read through all the replies, so someone might have the same opinion as me. I dunno. I just bought a 120gb Classic. I'd just as soon buy another one before spending more than my 120gb cost to double the disk space. Plus, I love researching and buying cases, accessories, etc. for my gadgets, so it would give me another excuse to do so. :p
 
Is that how you guys fill up massive amounts of GB's of music? By ripping the WHOLE album?

If they came out with the tb ipod, I would buy it. :)

My itunes library is over 500gb now and I find that I spend about $1500-2000 a year on itunes. About 50 gb of music and the rest is videos. I'm downloading another 60 gigs of TV shows from the itunes store right now since they are having a sale from the History Channel. Later this year I was hoping to hire some teenager to rip my DVD collection into itunes for me. That will probaby take my itunes library into multi-terabyte size. So yeah, larger ipod sizes would be awesome!

I take my ipod to watch videos on my TV downstairs or in the car. I'd love to have a greater variety of shows with me.
 
If they came out with the tb ipod, I would buy it. :)

My itunes library is over 500gb now and I find that I spend about $1500-2000 a year on itunes. About 50 gb of music and the rest is videos. I'm downloading another 60 gigs of TV shows from the itunes store right now since they are having a sale from the History Channel. Later this year I was hoping to hire some teenager to rip my DVD collection into itunes for me. That will probaby take my itunes library into multi-terabyte size. So yeah, larger ipod sizes would be awesome!

I take my ipod to watch videos on my TV downstairs or in the car. I'd love to have a greater variety of shows with me.

That's so crazy! It's kind of cool. They should make a documentary about you. Maybe one of those kids who goes to Full Sail and thinks he's gonna have a job when he graduates could do it for a spaghetti and meatball dinner?!!
 
I assume that the iPod classic is now mostly aimed at the serious music lover, who has huge collections and prefer lossless audio. Because of this, Apple should give the Classic users the largest capacity possible and the best sound quality possible. Thinness is not the most important factor for an audiophile. I would definitely buy a 240GB iPod Classic, provided that Apple improved the sound quality in the Classic, which I hear is worse than in the 5G and 5.5G models.

I really want to buy a new Classic, because the 30GB in my 5.5G iPod doesn't go very far with lossless, but I'm holding out for the next model, hoping that they will improve on the sound quality. Apparently they use a Cirrus Logic chip in the Classic but a Wolfson chip in the 5.5G.

The main factor in determining sound quality is going to be the headphones at this point.
 
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