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Would you replace your Apple Silicon Mac when an OLED Mac comes out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 38 25.2%
  • No

    Votes: 113 74.8%

  • Total voters
    151

Pressure

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May 30, 2006
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The limiting factor is what needs to go in the frame like sensors and cameras.

Unless you want your laptop to have the "camera bump" it's not going to happen but what Apple can do is include a heatsink for the OLED display, so it can retain higher peak brightness.
 

Sheepish-Lord

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Oct 13, 2021
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Looking at the Apple specs;

MBP XDR - 1M:1 contrast ratio
iPhone Pro OLED - 2M:1 contrast ratio

If I did upgrade it would be for the instant OLED response time not the extra contrast ratio. However, I would rather see OLED on a MBA with no-promotion as opposed to an already insanely expensive MBP.
 

Sankew

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i don't really see a massive benefit over going oled, for what it's worth, i love how the Mini LED Displays are on the new Pro's, i have the M1 13 inch Pro and would probably upgrade to the M3 or M4 Pro Mac's, I'm already hitting a performance bottleneck with my M1, I edit videos so it's necessary i have enough performance
 

Spaceboi Scaphandre

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Jun 8, 2022
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I have a 14 inch MacBook Pro so no. MiniLED is great and fits my needs. I ain't buying a new Mac until there's a leap in performance that warrants doing do, which so far there hasn't, and there probably won't be until M3 or M4.
 

Wokis

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Jul 3, 2012
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Don't think so but it could be a factor among others.

I think the OLED iPads might bring me into making an upgrade over there. But their release will coincide with my ipad 2017 getting pretty old and likely falling off software-support.
 

bobcomer

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May 18, 2015
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I'm not totally sold on OLED technology. I've seen too many wicked and rapid burn-in issues on OLED displays. And even if burn-in isn't as big a problem on more recent OLEDs due to pixel refreshing strategies, the pixels will still burn out over time (and I'm not yet convinced pixel refresh will completely mitigate the burn-in problems when there are static elements on-screen for a long time, as is the case when rendering operating systems).

I'd rather wait for microLED displays, which have the same advantages of OLEDs and don't have the burn-in or burn-out issues. MicroLED displays are crazy expensive right now, but Samsung is going to be pushing microLED TVs in a big way soon, and we'll probably start to see more reasonably priced microLED computer screens in a few years.
I have a Dell XPS15 with an OLED display, it's gorgeous, and no burn-in. I have 2 OLED TV's in the house, and then there's my phones and a Samsung tablet. I guess you could say I'm totally sold on OLED. :)

No burn in on any of them. Next for me will be QDOLED.
 

okkibs

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Sep 17, 2022
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If you have a M1/M2 MBA, MBP & iMac would you replace it with a OLED Mac?
No, because miniLED is plenty. It's decent enough for HDR content and being able to up the brightness beyond 500 nits with Vivid works great too. And the M1 Max is plenty for me for many years as well. I plan to keep this Macbook until 2027, that's a solid 5 years.
 

splitpea

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I’ve been more than satisfied with Apple’s laptop displays since the first retina generation. I no longer upgrade out of cycle for pretty much any reason (laptops these days are plenty good enough), but one thing that would get me excited for the next upgrade would be anything that cut power draw enough that they could decrease weights by a third.
 
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Allen_Wentz

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Dec 3, 2016
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i don't really see a massive benefit over going oled, for what it's worth, i love how the Mini LED Displays are on the new Pro's, i have the M1 13 inch Pro and would probably upgrade to the M3 or M4 Pro Mac's, I'm already hitting a performance bottleneck with my M1, I edit videos so it's necessary i have enough performance
The 13" MBPs are much less strong than the 14"-16" MBPs are, incuding the older M1 versions. No need to wait for M3. The performance increase of a 14" or 16" M2 MBP (or even an M1 with enough RAM) would be huge for you.
 

russell_314

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Feb 10, 2019
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The display lid of the MBA M2 does not contain the logic board, batteries, speakers and other parts.
That's exactly my point. An OLED panel isn't going to make much difference in how thin the device is because the current displays are very thin. Most of the thickness comes from the logic board, batteries, speakers and other parts.

Portions of the OLED TVs that do not contain the I/O, logicboard, speakers and power supply located on them tend to have to be ~5mm thick.

I have yet to hear of any incidents of bendgate considering you dont sit on most TVs most of the time.
I don't think you can compare a portable device to a TV that's not to be stationary. Just because the TV sits there or is attached to a wall versus laptop or tablet is carried with you. Perhaps something like an iMac would be comparable to a TV because it also sits there but unfortunately, the iMac has the name Apple attached to it. Someone, somewhere will bend their iMac and blame Apple for this. Look at all the threads of people bending iPads because they put them loosely in a bag with other objects.

The thinner iMac would result in a lighter & more compact product to ship. Resulting in more iMacs per shipping pallet for logistics cost savings.

It also means less BoM.
I totally agree with this, but it is very marginal compared to possible recalls due to bending or extra costs to make a thinner frame. How much is Apple going to save by making the display part of the iMac thinner since the box that comes in is significantly thicker than the display already.

I am fairly certain that the 1st PowerBook 100 & iMac G3 users felt the same way when the successor designs started shrinking in dimensions and weight.

When Macs end up being as thin as A4 paper people who have been using them for half a century would claim that it is too thin or too light. Worrying that a gust of wind will push them off tables.
I totally agree that one day we're going to have a laptop display that's not much thicker than a sheet of paper or maybe even a hologram. I don't think making the iMac significantly thinner is going to be Apple's priority over other aspects of the iMac. I don't think there's anyone in Apple engineering thinking if we could just make this thing half as thick it would be so much better.

As to the MacBooks being thinner, I think where it's at is going to be the body not the display. The current display is already paper thin well not literally but it's very thin so there's very little room for improvement. I think they could make some improvements was making the body thinner. A good example is my MacBook Air lid with the display is about 3 mm thick. Perhaps they could get that down to 2 mm but that's only 1 mm saving.

My measurements are kind of rough since I don't have a micrometer. I am using a ruler. I couldn't find any spec sheet showing the thickness of the display. It will be interesting to know the thickness of the display and how much thicker it is around the border, where they seem to have reinforced it.
 

russell_314

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Feb 10, 2019
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I’d take increased brightness over anything else. Usability outdoors is king.
That's interesting. I wonder how many people use their MacBook Air outdoors and need a brighter display. I use mine indoors and never go over 50% brightness, so a brighter display would be useless for me.
 
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Closingracer

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I love OLED and I had a ASUS ZenBook 14X with a 2.8K OLED screen. I loved the screen inside but once outside you had this weird layer on the screen that you can see in bright light like the sun. I actually ended up returning it and got a MBA M2 and I find Apple's LCD screens to be top notch.
 

Bodhitree

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I generally don’t mind the screen quality so much once it gets beyond a certain point, and the current LCD-screens are already very good. So I don’t think it would do much for me.
 
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Basic75

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I generally don’t mind the screen quality so much once it gets beyond a certain point, and the current LCD-screens are already very good. So I don’t think it would do much for me.
Yes, having experienced the early 1990s with what felt like 14:1 contrast ratio monochrome laptop displays where the cursor would leave visible trails and you had like a 12.5 degree range to position your head in because otherwise the picture got inverted I'd also be happy to stay with LED backlit retina-class IPS displays for the next 100 years.

They are very good.
 

leifp

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Feb 8, 2008
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Nope, because I use external displays and not a small laptop screen.
I look forward to my return to the desktop fold. Right now I use the laptop as a desktop 99% of the time anyhow… but, as always, that is fraught with inefficiencies: more expensive, more failure points, and macOS adjusts for it to be a laptop (with occasional niggles that don’t exist in 100% desktop builds)
 
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platinumaqua

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No, because of cost and the risk of burn in.

I don't care about black levels. I'm actually fine with a regular IPS display as I never use my screen in the dark.
 
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mario0

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I always replace my Macbook and Mac Studio if a new model was released no matter if there is an OLED display or not.
As a professional content creator I need the most powerful hardware.
 
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Mr Screech

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oled subpixel layout makes it terrible for text.
so unless apple creates their own oled panels from scratch, which is unlikely, it would be a terrible idea.
 
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leifp

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oled subpixel layout makes it terrible for text.
so unless apple creates their own oled panels from scratch, which is unlikely, it would be a terrible idea.
I believe this would very much fall under YMMV… I have a 40” 4K OLED and reading text on it is nicer than on my 32” 4K LED (I am definitely sensitive to dpi otherwise: anything less than “retina” annoys me, so neither is going to replace my 27” 5K as principal work monitor)
 
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harold.ji

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Why would I replace my current 16" mini-LED MacBook Pro display with an OLED version? Waiting for it to burn in?
 

spiderman0616

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My current MacBook Pro has a screen that looks nicer for movie playback than our 4K TV. Why would I care what the tech behind it is? In fact, if someone lied and told me it already had OLED, I'd probably believe them.
 
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