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Danny Futuro

macrumors member
Sep 1, 2006
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0
hell no.

I had a rev. A macbook and had nothing but problems with it. Fried logic board, palmrest staining, and a dead USB port. Mind you, it was all covered by apple, but the thing just made me uneasy. I've since bought a C2D 15" MBP, and I at least know I wont have the staining issue with an aluminum palmrest.

=p

Oh yea, it's damn powerful too. and the keyboard lights up!
 

SiliconAddict

macrumors 603
Jun 19, 2003
5,889
0
Chicago, IL
It wasn't a dumb question at all. You save a huge chunk of change and get 90% of the computer. The only losses are in screen size and video card. Depending on the user, that might not matter, and you could save some money that would be put towards other things.

And expansion, fire wire capabilities, max CPU speed, backlite keyboard.
 

BWhaler

macrumors 68040
Jan 8, 2003
3,789
6,249
Only if I really, really wanted something portable.

But I love the bigger screen. Makes me more productive. (And all of the other things people mentioned are nice to haves also.)

For me, the value proposition of the MacBook is it is the most portable computer Apple makes. If that is one's priority, then it is a fantastic computer to buy (except for the terrible quality issues.)
 

tjcampbell

macrumors 6502a
Aug 14, 2006
826
0
Vancouver
Yes... read on.

Okay, so my refurb MBP is a month old and the fan is f*ck$d to the point that it makes loud crunching noises. I was on skype and my mate thought my girlfriend was hoovering up rocks. Anyhow, I'm PISSED OFF AT APPLE. Because although the refurb comes with a full warranty they don't offer a proper exchange on a faulty product. Straight up, the guy told me, "if you didn't buy a refurb, we would be sending you out a replacement and when it arrives you can send back the dead one." This really upset me. I feel like they gave me a crap computer and said, "It's your problem now." My options are limited. They have offered a refund. Which isn't a quick fix. I'd likely see the money back in a few weeks, plus I have to wait for the courier etc... and then order another computer. Pain in the bum.
SO THIS BRINGS ME TO THE DEBATE OF THIS WONDERFULLY TIMED FORUM!!
My MBP was 950 from the refurb store. Bargain; thought so at the time. I bought an extra gig of ram from a 3rd party. I can get my slowass refund and then order another one (they wont simply let you do it all in one step). Or I can now get a C2D blackbook and slide in my stick of ram. This mostly interests me because if I walk into the store and buy it I will have A REAL WARRANTY / APPLECARE and a computer to transfer my data to. Then I can go through the ridiculous refund policy.
The only "major" comparison between the two that makes me wonder is if the blackbook will be less skilled at playing back decent video on my projector. I used to have a 12" PB and it did the job, but crapped out when it came to HD downloads. The MBP is a breeze with this. Will the MB be able to handle it? I do love this computer and I wouldn't be having this dilemma if apple simply treated a refurb customer like any other. They are racist against refurb buyers (joke).
Let me know your thoughts on this. Please and thanks. Cheers, Tom
 

adrianblaine

macrumors 65816
Oct 12, 2006
1,156
0
Pasadena, CA
While I never owned a MacBook, I used my friends quite a bit. I just got my MBP two days ago and I don't think I would ever want anything less. I came from an iBook G4 and I feel like I'm in heaven. Even though the MB is blazing fast, it still feels like an iBook. I think it depends on what you use if for. I'll be using Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign and Aperture. After a 12" screen for 2 years this 15" screen feels gigantic! I love it!
 

QCassidy352

macrumors G5
Mar 20, 2003
12,066
6,107
Bay Area
And expansion, fire wire capabilities, max CPU speed, backlite keyboard.

the point is that all of the responses here make it sound like a person would have to be crazy to choose a MB over a MBP. All things being equal, maybe... but all things are not equal. The MB starts at $900 less than the MBP. Given that difference, I'd say choosing a MB is quite reasonable.
 

craigatkinson

macrumors regular
Jan 31, 2006
231
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The reason it sounds that way to you is because you've forgotten what question was asked. The original question was, if you had the opportunity to trade your MBP for MB would you do it. And the answer was overwhelmingly "NO!"

the point is that all of the responses here make it sound like a person would have to be crazy to choose a MB over a MBP. All things being equal, maybe... but all things are not equal. The MB starts at $900 less than the MBP. Given that difference, I'd say choosing a MB is quite reasonable.
 

tejota1911

macrumors 6502
Nov 10, 2006
283
33
NO!

When I first started looking for a new computer, I thought I would purchase a black MacBook. I liked it's size and figured, if I was going to buy a portable computer, I wanted it as portable as possible. As soon as the 15" C2D MacBook Pro was released, I decided to purchase it instead. I haven't regretted it at all. I am totally happy with it. It's plenty portable, and I like the larger screen and the dedicated X1600 graphics card. I added another 1gig of RAM, and this thing is smokin' fast. I really like the classy aluminum look, and the backlit keyboard comes in handy. I am completely satisfied with my MacBook Pro and wouldn't consider trading it for a MacBook.
 

spookje

macrumors member
Nov 14, 2006
80
0
No, the screen of the MacBook is too small for me. > 15" is a no-go for me notebook wise.
 

miniguu

macrumors regular
Jun 16, 2005
160
0
Personally, I love the way the BlackBooks look..plus magnetic latch, so sleeek.
They remind me of vintage cars (I know, not very apt, but that's what it triggers).

That being said, I couldn't do without the better video card and excellent keyboard on the MBP. Coming from a 12" PB, I really wanted more screen real estate than the 13" MB. I think the plastic shell on the MB would scratch up way too easily, given the way I handle laptops. I find it easier to avoid dents than a million billion tiny scratches. :p
 

BackInTheSaddle

macrumors regular
Aug 20, 2002
118
0
Olympic Peninsula, WA
It all comes back to what you need. If you need a bigger screen, or if this is your primary work machine, I think you stick with the MBP.

Personally, I love the 15" but it's a bit cumbersome on the road. I much prefer my Blackbook. I was reminded of this when I had to send in my MB for repairs (it had RSS) and I used an old 15" PB G4 temporarily. In spite of the backlit keyboard and all the other nice features, I got tired of trying to use it in flight (too big for me on a 737). I miss my old 12" PB for that matter.

It's too bad Apple can't/won't make a MBP in the 13" form factor. Just because it's small doesn't mean it can't be powerful too. In the old days when Apple had to justify the price levels for each of the various sizes by tweaking the specs, I could understand this. With the move to Intel though, Apple doesn't need to do this. I really wish I could get a black anodized 13" MBP with a lighted keyboard and ambient light sensor...those features are so handy when traveling.
 

tjcampbell

macrumors 6502a
Aug 14, 2006
826
0
Vancouver
Changed my mind

When my refurb MBP died and all apple would offer was a refund I was leaning towards getting a new blackbook. Basically cus my refurb was a grand and blackbook is a grand. However... as soon as I walked into the apple store and took a good look at the blackbook I knew right away that there was no way I could not go with another MBP. I guess once you've tasted first class it gets in your veins. So I am typing this on my second MBP this month. Oh and this ones glossy. My other one was matte. Definitely prefer this one. Cheers, T
 

SC68Cal

macrumors 68000
Feb 23, 2006
1,642
0
I needed the screen real-estate and the GPU, so, not unless I got an iMac along with the macbook, which would have basically made the point irrelevant
 

pjo

macrumors regular
Feb 20, 2006
124
1
gives new meaning to "pro" vs "consumer" graphics card

although I still don't understand why the "home" laptop comes with the business-grade GMA, but the "pro" system includes the game-friendly X1K.

lol hadn't read it that way.

But as to the OP, glad to see you're not trading DOWN.
 

Wolf103FM

macrumors regular
Apr 29, 2006
154
0
Huntsville AL
I would not even trade my 1.83 Core Duo MBP, with it's uneven backlight and fan problems every 2 months, for a top of the line C2D Macbook, Soley for the reason that i refuse to use intel graphics
 

YS2003

macrumors 68020
Dec 24, 2004
2,138
0
Finally I have arrived.....
I say no. I just cannot stand the glossy screen notebook (this is my personal taste; also if you are doing photo editing with the glossy, it is difficult to match your output (i.e., prints) with what you see on the glossy screen; it just messes up the color accuracy). The overall packages of MBP is much nicer than MB in my opinion. I would buy MB to serve me as a daily on-the-road use computer to take beating to spare my MBP from wear-and-tear. But, I won't even consider replacing MBP with MB.

No offense to MB owners. But, it is a definite downgrade if I replace my MBP with MB.

It is a human psychology: after you purchase products, your mind does its best to reinforce the notion you made a right purchasing decision, regardless of your choice of products. Even if you know Intel's integrated graphics is inferior to the dedicated unit, once you buy your machine with intel integrated graphics, you will start convincing yourself you don't need it for your use and the integrated graphics is good enough. Which is okay, as the user may not need extra graphic capabilities, such as running a 30" LCD monitor.
 

apunkrockmonk

macrumors 6502a
Nov 20, 2005
772
20
Rochester, NY
I recently upgraded (yes, upgraded) from my old 1.83CD MBP to a $1299 MB C2D.

The screen size hit bothered me for a day, I don't miss the backlit keyboard, I get way better wifi reception and way way way way way better battery life.

All of that and I got to pocket some cash and get a speed boost, not to mention MORE upgradability (the ability to easily swap out the HD is a very nice feature).

All these people that think the extra $800 is worth it to look cool are retarded. Same with all the integrated graphics cry-babies.

Unless you're playing games the graphics card isn't going to make a difference in most cases.

If you want the screen space, go with the pro, if you want to impress all the ladies with your computer, you're probably not going to succeed, if you want more durability, better battery life, better wifi signal strength, don't mind a glossy screen and if you like having extra money, the Macbook is the way to go.

The choice was obvious to me.

That said, keep the MBP unless you really need money or something, the restocking fee would be ugly.
 

glhiii

macrumors 6502
Nov 4, 2006
287
142
MacBook to 17 MBP

I returned my MacBook after a week and got a new 17" MBP. Cost twice as much, but in this case you really do get what you pay for.
 

ZballZ

macrumors regular
Nov 11, 2006
246
0
Keep in mind that all these people screeeeaaaming "hell no" are people who are already stuck with their MBPs. Although the MBP is obviously a superior machine - I understand you 100%! I hear that little voice in the back of my head everytime see a macbook: "should I have gotten that one instead?"

Personally I dont regret anything, love my MBP, - but the more compact, smaller macbook certainly has it charms.

(but if there is even a slight chance, that the macbook isnt powerfull enough for you - then DONT)
 
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