Wouldn't Apple Music Be better as an APP ?

[C DM]

So wtf does that change have you ever seen how the software update looks and what it contains? Jesus the brainwashing is reaching critical levels in this forum.

It would change exactly what you yourself pointed out in your previous reply. Not sure what else you are trying to argue given that you yourself already pointed out the difference.

 

[manu chao]

Unfortunately that is not correct. Any iOS update, even for a single app, requires a high amount of regression testing.

If an OS update only changes something that has no interdependencies (eg, changing an icon), you don't need regression testing. If the 'Music' app on iOS would be updated on its own, Apple would only be able to improve the parts of it that have no interdependencies with the rest of the OS.

The problem is that you cannot separate the Music app from the OS because it integrates with the 'music' library which is part of the OS. And I am pretty sure it also uses non-public APIs (or just new APIs which are still non-public) for all the synching going on in the background with the iCloud representation of your music library. And those APIs might be used by other Apple apps (eg, iBooks).

Asking for Music to be a separate app is asking for to develop sync services for this app only (as third-party apps have to do). I don't think that is an efficient way for Apple to write software.

 

[C DM]

If an OS update only changes something that has no interdependencies (eg, changing an icon), you don't need regression testing. If the 'Music' app on iOS would be updated on its own, Apple would only be able to improve the parts of it that have no interdependencies with the rest of the OS.

The problem is that you cannot separate the Music app from the OS because it integrates with the 'music' library which is part of the OS. And I am pretty sure it also uses non-public APIs (or just new APIs which are still non-public) for all the synching going on in the background with the iCloud representation of your music library. And those APIs might be used by other Apple apps (eg, iBooks).

Asking for Music to be a separate app is asking for to develop sync services for this app only (as third-party apps have to do). I don't think that is an efficient way for Apple to write software.

You'd be surprised how many simple single character changes have brought down whole systems/services/products.

 

[manu chao]

You'd be surprised how many simple single character changes have brought down whole systems/services/products.

Well, somehow Apple manages to send out updates for individual (mostly third-party) apps without either doing lots of regression testing of the whole OS including the app or constantly bringing down the whole system.

 

[C DM]

Well, somehow Apple manages to send out updates for individual (mostly third-party) apps without either doing lots of regression testing of the whole OS including the app or constantly bringing down the whole system.

You are talking about App Store updates? That's the whole point of those that they don't change things on the OS level and are sandboxed thus much less testing is needed for those. That's kind of what the whole point of the thread is.

 

[manu chao]

You are talking about App Store updates? That's the whole point of those that they don't change things on the OS level and are sandboxed thus much less testing is needed for those. That's kind of what the whole point of the thread is.

And I think this point of the thread has been answered in that it wouldn't make sense for Apple to duplicate all functions of the OS that Apple Music integrates with within a separate app.

 

[C DM]

And I think this point of the thread has been answered in that it wouldn't make sense for Apple to duplicate all functions of the OS that Apple Music integrates with within a separate app.

Clearly. The way the app is designed now wouldn't make sense, as was mentioned before, it seems it was more of a wishful thinking type of question to say that it would be great if some of these stock apps didn't require much OS integration and could be done as separate apps that are not built in, kind of like what iBooks and Podcasts used to be before, for example.