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Wow! 10M Pirated iPhone Apps Downloaded!
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well, im sure they would do that for apps that do not function as intended.
Its just like music, PC apps, pretty much anything....there will always be people who pirate software. Thinking that it could be stopped is like thinking that people will stop pirating music or movies. I know that its not the same in terms of costs...but im just making a example that there is no way to stop pirating that.
To OP, im sorry your app got cracked and you lost out, i wouldnt get worked up too much about it though. IMO youre just driving yourself nuts and there is really nothing you can do. I would think that the reason why your app was download 25k times, it was cause it was free. Now, please dont take it as me saying your app isnt worth it. I have no idea what app it is and what it does, i know your time is worth the cost.
Its not right, its stealing...no doubt...however, no way to really stop it.
So how about stealing apps made by EA Games, who's a multi-million dollar game production company? Is that ok?
Just curious, what is your definition of a pirated app or if you don't care to give us your definition "the" definition of a pirated app?
Copyright Infringement
When you say an app is "pirated" you are equating the act with killing, rape, and torture of human beings on the ocean.
When you say you are "stealing" an app, you are equating the act with going into a store and shoplifting an item, or worse, going into someone's house and taking all of their possessions.
The correct term is "copyright infringement". Sorry, but IMHO, piracy and stealing are MUCH worse than infringing on someone's copyright.
The laws are terrible in the United States. A teenager can get five years in pound me-in-the-arse federal prison and a $250,000 fine if he/she gets caught downloading an iPhone app from Appulous, but would only get a small fine if they shoplifted Adobe Photoshop from Best Buy.
When you say an app is "pirated" you are equating the act with killing, rape, and torture of human beings on the ocean.
When you say you are "stealing" an app, you are equating the act with going into a store and shoplifting an item, or worse, going into someone's house and taking all of their possessions.
The correct term is "copyright infringement". Sorry, but IMHO, piracy and stealing are MUCH worse than infringing on someone's copyright.
The laws are terrible in the United States. A teenager can get five years in pound me-in-the-arse federal prison and a $250,000 fine if he/she gets caught downloading an iPhone app from Appulous, but would only get a small fine if they shoplifted Adobe Photoshop from Best Buy.
To OP, im sorry your app got cracked and you lost out, i wouldnt get worked up too much about it though. IMO youre just driving yourself nuts and there is really nothing you can do. I would think that the reason why your app was download 25k times, it was cause it was free. Now, please dont take it as me saying your app isnt worth it. I have no idea what app it is and what it does, i know your time is worth the cost.
Its not right, its stealing...no doubt...however, no way to really stop it.
Wrong, there is something developers can do about it. They can stop developing for the platform. Or they can start taking more drastic measures, like having the app phone home before doing anything. Oh yeah, the "users" don't like that but the "users" have had 20 years to clean up their act and piracy is just as bad as it always was if not worse.
there are 20 million iphones sold.
100,000 of them would be .005% of total iphones being jailbroken (i don't think this number is overstated at all)
and if apps cost you zero dollars, you're more likely to get more apps..
I think at least .5% of iphones are jailbroken, and that would bring the jailbroken numbers from 100,000 to 1,000,000. Now I bet each jailbroken phone has more than 10 apps on it.. so the pirated apps are easily over 10 million..
I haven't jailbroken yet, but I think when you purchase an app, and it does not work or do what it is supposed to do, I should get a refund. I heard android market allows 24 hrs to return the app.
I think if you download one app that does not do what it supposed to, that could discourage you from trying other apps, but if you can try 10 apps and keep the one you like, you will more likely purchace another app later
but some games are only mention to enjoyed for a couple hours, so I can undestand why some devs are not supportive of the 24hr return policy
You can. On a limited basis, Apple does offer refunds for iPhone apps. Just contact them and you should be able to get your money back.
ha. You guys are hilarious. The idea that any little iPhone app developer could do anything to even put a dent in the spread of piracy is ridiculous. Free stuff is too cool for pass up...get over it. There is "shrinkage" in pretty much every business that exists. You can waste your time trying to fight what you can't stop or you can get over it and put that time into developing new apps.
It's funny. The OP never even knew about appulo.us (the iPhone app cracking scene is huge dude...and easy)...You're in a business and you know absolutely nothing about the people who are stealing from you. There in lies the problem. When technology is involved, generally the criminals are much smarter than the business people. Definitely true in this case.
It's funny. The OP never even knew about appulo.us (the iPhone app cracking scene is huge dude...and easy)...You're in a business and you know absolutely nothing about the people who are stealing from you. There in lies the problem. When technology is involved, generally the criminals are much smarter than the business people. Definitely true in this case.
Just because it's easy to do doesn't make it right. I would imagine that these hackers would be upset if I took money out of their bank account because it was easy to do.
I would have no problem with you going to my bank account and copying all of the dollar bills. Go for it!
Oh wait, you don't understand that STEAL and COPY mean different things.
I would have no problem with you going to my bank account and copying all of the dollar bills. Go for it!
Oh wait, you don't understand that STEAL and COPY mean different things.
Do they really? What do you do for a living? Would you be okay with your employer photocopying your work then telling you they don't need your work so they don't pay you. Instead they just use the photocopy. After all its not stealing its just a copy. They are different things.
Then you're an idiot because the value of those dollar bills would collapse as the amount of currency in circulation would increase.
That's why counterfitting currency is such a serious crime - if everyone did it, just for their own personal use, our current model of civilisation would collapse.
It's actually a pretty good analogy for copyright, but in exactly the opposite way you intended. Well done.
Phazer
Ok, money is a stupid analogy. The secret service would toss you in jail. I'm saying that the penalties for stealing software from a store and simply downloading a torrent of that software from piratebay are stupid.
If I steal a piece of software from a store, I get a small slap on the hand and maybe a night in jail.
If I download the same software from piratebay, I get five years in prison.
Why are these two different punishments for the same crime?
See, I'm not support copyrighting infringement, I think it's wrong, like speeding five miles over the speed limit, smoking dope, or jaywalking. But it's definitely not even close to STEALING something, like stealing a car, or someone's money etc.
I really think people use use the word STEALING vs COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT are hurting society. You are the reason that a 12 year old girl has to pay $12,000 for downloading Britney Spears album. Because you equate STEALING with COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT, juries and judges don't know the difference and people get punished WAY more than they should be.
So in a nutshell, I think Developers should ignore the fuss about copyright infringement and not blame bad sales on "piracy". There's no proof that if no one pirated your app, that you would sell more apps.
Exactly, software will ALWAYS be pirated. Whether you like it or not, just put in a couple of safe guards and move on. Focus more on making a decent app, and if people like it they will pay for it. If they don't care they won't care.
Wow... I didnt know such thing existed. Now I'm going to be dowloading illegal stuff too (hello $4.99 and $79.99 apps). And here I thought .99 cent was decent. I guess not even mobile apps are safe. This must be the new wave of piracy since music.
Haven't read page 2 to last page, What have Apple done to combat this piracy?
Haven't read page 2 to last page, What have Apple done to combat this piracy?
if you're on BT than chances are you are sharing software as well as downloading and that's why the penalties are higher. you are distributing copyrighted material to millions of people
same reason some people want a classic ipod to carry all their music around even though it would take months to listen to it. they are OCD