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Either you're a troll, or you just don't know what the hell you are talking about. They have 12 million active subscribers comming INTO the release. Do you think it will actually go DOWN these comming weeks?

All I said when the traffic around HERE dies down about WoW. I know how many subscribers it has, I know how good it is. But there are other games and was just saying that it's going to be all WOW related for the next few weeks.

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How about adding to the original question of the OP? :p

Anyone got the Collector's Edition? Is it all you hoped? :)

On Amazon the Wrath of the Lich King is like $200+
Though the Burning Crusade is only like $150 for some reason. You'd figure it'd be reversed.
They are selling the original for $2000+. Not sure who's buying it, but I guess they must expect to sell it if there are so many listed in that range.

To think, I got 2 collectors Editions in the beginning. Gave one to my nephew who chewed it up, and sold one on ebay for a small premium afterward because I had already installed a normal edition CD key and couldn't "convert" and didn't want to start all over.
 
For sure I wish WoW would get a major, and I mean *major* graphic overhaul (though a lot of the engine tweaks make it easier on the eyes), but as far as actual 'game' goes? Definitely not in the disappointed category.

I'm kind of curious what they could do to make the graphics better. They're pretty much using the Art-style that was in Warcraft III. In general, the graphics they provide now pretty much completely cover the demands set by the art-style. That's actually a pretty novel thing as well. It's just like the Mario games. They pretty much captured the proper graphics to represent the style a generation or two ago.

Knowing the relationship between graphics and performance I was always happy with the way Wow looked. It allowed me to play it on my G5 for a long time.

Damn. I had hoped to come back and get moral support of my attempt to stay away from WoW. :eek:

Join the Been-There-Done-That club with me. :)

Well, I for one won't be buying it.. only came into this thread to say, "See ya in a few weeks after all the WoW traffic dies down."

Either you're a troll, or you just don't know what the hell you are talking about. They have 12 million active subscribers comming INTO the release. Do you think it will actually go DOWN these comming weeks?

I think he was just referring to the rise in Wow activity when an expansion is released and then traffic dies off to normal levels later.
 
Not sure if you noticed or not, but supposedly they were gonna get rid of some of the "low quest-drop rates" so that the "grind" isn't so boring to new players. Some zones also have "phasing", where the terrain and NPC's and objects change when you completed parts of a quest chain, thus "openning up" new areas withing the same setting. Some zones also stress an element of "war" and pvp.

Yeah, I agree on the graphics. They should make a "high graphics client" like EVE Online does. I mean, they let you tweak it a lot, but it would be nice to like see "fur" on bears and such.

I did indeed notice they upped the drop rate on some of the "old world" gather quests, which was sure nice, let me tell you! The difference between original zone gather quests, and those in Outland/Northrend was like night and day, sometimes, before 4.03a.

Just to give an example, there is one quest in Dun Morogh, carried over to Cata, where you have to collect some boar ribs and malt. The drop rate on those ribs used to be crazy low....I'd just do a bunch of other quests, and eventually I'd get the ribs, along with pelts and other things. Now, though, it was four boar kills and four rib drops. Also, even with drop rates on (most) quests being quite high, leveling is so fast that you really can pick and choose areas you want to quest in. No more having to go this zone and that zone to do a few quests, which is nice because when I level my worgen, I can go to all the zones I missed on my priest, and probably end up skipping most of the places I quested with him.
 
I did indeed notice they upped the drop rate on some of the "old world" gather quests, which was sure nice, let me tell you! The difference between original zone gather quests, and those in Outland/Northrend was like night and day, sometimes, before 4.03a.

Just to give an example, there is one quest in Dun Morogh, carried over to Cata, where you have to collect some boar ribs and malt. The drop rate on those ribs used to be crazy low....I'd just do a bunch of other quests, and eventually I'd get the ribs, along with pelts and other things. Now, though, it was four boar kills and four rib drops. Also, even with drop rates on (most) quests being quite high, leveling is so fast that you really can pick and choose areas you want to quest in. No more having to go this zone and that zone to do a few quests, which is nice because when I level my worgen, I can go to all the zones I missed on my priest, and probably end up skipping most of the places I quested with him.

I remeber something about a "gorrilla sinew" or something that was a pita to get. I hope the fixed that one.
 
It's too early to tell if it's all I hoped. I logged on shortly after release and got to 81 relatively quickly. I think for most people it's about the raiding, so we won't have much of an opinion for a week or so. ;-)
 
It's too early to tell if it's all I hoped. I logged on shortly after release and got to 81 relatively quickly. I think for most people it's about the raiding, so we won't have much of an opinion for a week or so. ;-)

You can play the new race areas. They made the questing more dynamic.
 
Check out this listing that closed for US $906.56.

It's kind of weird but it looks like it's just a Collector's CD Key auction without the box. Seems like ppl would just pay a lot to have the pet status symbol. I suppose they would start a complete new account with all the collector's edition pets from scratch. These are some hardcore fans! :)


http://cgi.ebay.com/World-Warcraft-...4422?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item230c32d976

$900 for collector pets and you'd have to roll new characters- no comprendo. :)
World of Warcraft Collector's Edition original WoW NR
no physical product, includes key only, 100% feedback
 
Gear and ICC...

Hi everyone, need some opinions. I just turned 80 late last week with my first character ( :) ) and am trying hard to get geared to do some icc 10 mans and later on 25 man raids. Is it even worth my time to do so or just come back when I am 85 considering i will get blue gear better than icc tier 10 gear? Or will I need gear that good (tiers 8-10) to progress to 81, etc?

Im not quite sure if there is a big gap between 80 and 81 (ie: turn level 80, work hard to get geared, with a gs approx 2800 on wow heroes then you are able to go to 81) or if it isnt any different from going from lvl's 20 to 21 or 50 to 51.

It would make sense to have players stuck at 80 for a while before they can progress because it basically eliminates the challenge of ICC.

Any insight?
 
I've leveled two undead toons up to 30, and the quests are very different so far and much more story-driven and interesting. The towns are also much more active, with incidental dialog that's hilarious sometimes. When you find the giant blue chicken in the town of drunken orcs, hang out and read the dialog for a while... I was literally loling.

I'm not sure what areas the people who think it's the same are leveling up in... it's much, much better in my opinion; it takes the game to an entirely new level, story- and quest-wise. I'm a little afraid of going back to Outlands and Northrend, frankly.

Hi everyone, need some opinions. I just turned 80 late last week with my first character ( :) ) and am trying hard to get geared to do some icc 10 mans and later on 25 man raids. Is it even worth my time to do so or just come back when I am 85 considering i will get blue gear better than icc tier 10 gear? Or will I need gear that good (tiers 8-10) to progress to 81, etc?

Im not quite sure if there is a big gap between 80 and 81 (ie: turn level 80, work hard to get geared, with a gs approx 2800 on wow heroes then you are able to go to 81) or if it isnt any different from going from lvl's 20 to 21 or 50 to 51.

It would make sense to have players stuck at 80 for a while before they can progress because it basically eliminates the challenge of ICC.

Any insight?

You don't need to do any 80 content, just keep questing. You might want to come back eventually for the achievements and title, etc., but gear is going to be a waste of time.

My guild killed the Lich King for the first time last night 3 hours before Cata started... it was our last attempt and people were not going to come back after Cata. We came within an inch of wiping, too. It was exciting, to say the least.

You should definitely plan to come back at 85 and run through ICC just for the experience, just as many people went back to vanilla and BC raids to see what they were like. Just don't try it at 80, it'll take a very long time to build up the gear you would need.
 
$900 for collector pets and you'd have to roll new characters- no comprendo. :)

If you're going to spend $900 on the CE, a hundred or so more to move your existing characters to the CE account isn't much of an obstacle. Then you create a few new toons to get the account-bound pets and ship them to your existing characters.

But yes, it's still nuts. And people still spend $800 for the Spectral Tiger mount, too. It gives me renewed hope for the American economy. :)
 
If you're going to spend $900 on the CE, a hundred or so more to move your existing characters to the CE account isn't much of an obstacle. Then you create a few new toons to get the account-bound pets and ship them to your existing characters.

But yes, it's still nuts. And people still spend $800 for the Spectral Tiger mount, too. It gives me renewed hope for the American economy. :)

With 12 million subscribers, there's gotta be some rich ppl in there somewhere. ;)
 
I'm not sure what areas the people who think it's the same are leveling up in... it's much, much better in my opinion; it takes the game to an entirely new level, story- and quest-wise. I'm a little afraid of going back to Outlands and Northrend, frankly.

Some ppl are just into quest completion and level-ups in order to get to the end-game content or arena competitions, or simply looking for loot...as fast as they can. I read something a while back that Blizzard said the majority of players are actually "casual"...not ppl who have 80's in each class and tier 100 raid gear. I would guess that it's just that the hardcore and enthusiasts are often the ones to make the spotlight in the news and/or care enough about it to ramble on the internet.
 
Just checking in for a Cataclysm fix. I quit WoW two months ago after playing since beta - knew I would NEVER quit if I picked up Cataclysm. Please, someone tell me it sux and runs crappy and is just the same old grind. Lie to me. Please!:(
 
Just checking in for a Cataclysm fix. I quit WoW two months ago after playing since beta - knew I would NEVER quit if I picked up Cataclysm. Please, someone tell me it sux and runs crappy and is just the same old grind. Lie to me. Please!:(

It sucks, runs crappy, and is just the same old grind.....:p
There - take that from someone who only ever played the original for a year and a half, got a 60 warrior tank, and quit the next week. :D
 
Hi everyone, need some opinions. I just turned 80 late last week with my first character ( :) ) and am trying hard to get geared to do some icc 10 mans and later on 25 man raids. Is it even worth my time to do so or just come back when I am 85 considering i will get blue gear better than icc tier 10 gear? Or will I need gear that good (tiers 8-10) to progress to 81, etc?

Im not quite sure if there is a big gap between 80 and 81 (ie: turn level 80, work hard to get geared, with a gs approx 2800 on wow heroes then you are able to go to 81) or if it isnt any different from going from lvl's 20 to 21 or 50 to 51.

It would make sense to have players stuck at 80 for a while before they can progress because it basically eliminates the challenge of ICC.

Any insight?

Just skip grinding gear at 80!
I had full tier 10 / offset and I've replaced all but 3 items, and I'm lvl 83.
Current average ilvl is 306!
 
Leveling is easy with the new quests & dungeon finder, but as another poster mentioned, crafting has become a worse problem. You get to level 40 and realize you still need about 120 silk cloth to level tailoring, and so on. The much quicker leveling makes the cloth farming (leather farming, etc.) seem all the more tedious.

Cataclysm itself gives you goblins and worgen, leveling to 85, and the ability to fly in Azeroth. Even tho the last item is a level-60 ability (costing 250G), you can only buy it if you fork over the $40. If you don't need any of those four things desperately, save your money and have fun.

Personally I think around level 20 to level 40 is the 'sweet spot' of the game; the endgame stuff is boring and repetitive.
 
I have to admit, I was wrong. Sorry everyone.

I seriously thought that this forum would be over run with people saying how Cataclysm is the best game ever; and others saying it sucks dead donkey. I was expecting lots of posts.

Instead, it is quite quiet. Everywhere, not just here, but many other sites I read as well. Wow... either it is good and everyone is playing it, or people really are just getting worn out.

Anyway, sorry for the original pessimism.
 
Just to help you out CylonGlitch^^, cata is awesome. I've only been playing it casually and am only half way through level 82. But the game experience in my opinion is fantastic, the new zones have been done very well indeed and because there are so many if you have several 80's (i dont) you can do something different on many of them to get to 85. The new dungeons are incredibly well done and combined with the new game mechanics the gameplay has gone back to the original WoW where you have to have good teamwork and think about what your doing in terms of threat. I've actually wiped a few times, even in a guild group!

The new guild rep and perks are a great incentive for good teamwork and really do help the speed at which you get into the dungeons and then raids, not that ive got there yet!

They have dealt really well, dare i say incredibly? with the fact that everyone was fully epicced. Your health and damage increasing exponentially while you level to make a real benefit to obtaining the new quest rewards although a few people havent realised yet and like to hold on to their new gear, not realising how crap it makes them as crit, hit etc need to go back down till you reach 85 so that you have enough stamina and attack power for the new mobs which have excessive health. But people have worked hard for their good gear which is why they hold onto it!! for example i say a level 83 with nearly 10000 less health than me as they refused to upgrade any of their gear. Anyone who plays will realise how ridiculous this is with the amount of health you gain each level at the moment.

All in All a fantastic addition to the game and im sure i will carry on playing for a while, my realm has been jammed full of people and loads of "friends" are now back on after being absent for a long time. The only downside is that now SW is like Dala as everyone is back in azeroth and the place is lagging to hell, i only get like 5 fps at peak times which is frustrating and just makes me want a new computer!!!
 
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Cata is okay. I really liked the WotL zones and the war feel. I'm not really into all the water, but I'm only 81 and hope that the zone changes soon.

I do like the change where you have to visit the dungeon before you can pick to queue for it.

Other things blizzard did right, they didn't use the water to just slow people down. Almost immediately they grant speed while running underwater and a mount. If they hadn't done that I probably would have quit the first night I played lol.
 
The water area (Vashj'ir) takes some getting used to. I didn't like it at first. But once you get to the Vashj'ir ruins and the Battlemaiden story it's not so bad. There is also guild experience now, where you get rewards (mostly buffs like increase damage, rep, or experience earned) for your guild "leveling up".
 
Knowing the relationship between graphics and performance I was always happy with the way Wow looked. It allowed me to play it on my G5 for a long time.
I just bought Cata, and I'm impressed with how smooth and playable it is on my late 2006 MBP. It runs very well actually!!
 
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