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Woz prefers Android for "voice" & nav...
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To be fair, Woz has a point. Integrate a great navigation system into Maps and make Siri 2.0 do more than it currently does and the iPhone will be unmatched.
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What's his motivation?
To make someone in apple take notice and improve the iPhone?
Bobby Corwen said:
What's his motivation?
To make someone in apple take notice and improve the iPhone?
To the masses.
Not when you consider there is Navigon, Tom Tom, and Motion X amongst various free offerings that are all excellent and plenty integrated all rolled up into the superior iOS touch response. How complicated does navigation need to be? If you get there you get there. Its a very arbitrary thing to point out as an advantage.
You have to ask yourself what is on his hidden agenda?
Agreed.
Android:
you say "navigate home" --> Google nav navigates home
how does the iPhone "superior touch response" factor in when you don't even touch the phone??
Nothing you listed can hold a candle to Android navigation. Even most diehard Apple fans are able to agree with that. It seems to me you have your own opinion and are translating that to what the "masses" think. I spend a lot of time on various forums. The masses disagree.
Voice commands are basically just a novelty to me, but I really wish that Apple would upgrade the GPS function of the iPhone. I'm guessing that their squabbles with Google have something to do with the lack of voice navigation in the Maps app. The free MapQuest app does the job most of the time, but that's just not good enough. I've had the thing crash more than once.
I think you are right on the money here. I remember, a couple months to maybe a year back, reading that Apple was working on their own turn by turn solution.
To be quite honest, I own an Android (HTC Incredible) device and an iPhone 4. While I like the UI better on the iPhone, I find myself with the Incredible in my hands more often than the iPhone.
How is him stating that something is better elsewhere a shot a Steve Jobs? You're really reaching.... By the way, Woz doesn't need to try to get fame. The same people who are discussing this already knew who he was in the first place. Also, if you took the time to read the first article from the source instead of this link then you would have saw that he actually said he thinks the iphone is a better device for most people (those who are a bit afraid of computers). He didn't state anything that was not true. Give the unmitigated fanboy stance a rest.
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Depends on the command. I find that it is much faster for me to just say "Call Best Buy" than to look up the nearest Best Buy and call it. I find it's much faster for me to say "Navigate to Applebees's" than to look up the address to the Applebee's and then go into the nav app. I use those features all the time. When I order chinese, I never look the phone number up. I always just say "Call China Cafe" and it calls it. That is much more convenient than looking it up, so I'd hardly call that a novelty, and after having used this feature for two years, I've come to rely on it.
Humans are very competitive. Despite his fame. In all accounts he is described as having a childlike immaturity.
If he wanted to point out the truth he should have said Androids are for geeks and freaks, and that he has geek pride, not saying Apple is for people who are afraid of computers.
Anyway, Apple is a better more solid choice as a consumer in general, its not a computer for dummies. Thats a backhanded compliment.
So the mature thing would have been NOT to tell a soul you prefer Android in these ways? Okay Mr. Psychology.
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While Siri is a nice gimmic for a phone, it doesn't understand people very well (especially the Scottish - no offence) and whats the point in speaking to your iPhone when it doesn't understand you???
While Siri is a nice gimmic for a phone, it doesn't understand people very well (especially the Scottish - no offence) and whats the point in speaking to your iPhone when it doesn't understand you???
Woz has already said that Voice commands and Navigation features are nicer on Android..... While SJ was alive even!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/18/exclusive-woz-misquoted-almost-every-app-that-i-have-is-bette/
What he said exactly right. The iphone is designed with a "computers for dummies" type approach. That is its greatest strength and its greatest weakness. When you buy an iphone you don't have think about how you want to set it up. You don't have to decide if you want to make any changes to it. That is great for someone who isn't very comfortable with having control, but it's awful for someone like myself who doesn't need things done and chosen for me. Apple takes a hand holding approach with their phone and that works for them since many people are tech verse. However for people like me, that same strength is a large weakness that causes people like me to not choose it as their daily driver. I'd rather not have the hand holding, I am perfectly capable of making my own choices and managing my own device. I would say his comment is on target. If you're a person who isn't afraid of having control, then Android is a better platform to use. However, if you're someone who might be a bit more tech averse, then iOS is a better platform for you generally.
Android is not better in any way. Its still trash in 2012. I know about tech and I still use iPhone. I don't even like LOOKING at the menus on Androids, let alone want to own one.
Simplicity is the height of perfection. These systems are balanced for usability.
Is a BMW easier to use than a 67 Chevy? Maybe, it has more automatic features and is more modern. Does that mean BMWs are for dummies because they are more elegant and automatic? Sure you like to work on your chevy, and maybe you can even soup up the engine to go as fast. But the handling will still be sub par and you are just wasting your time like a child on a hobby that doesn't really do anything for you. In the end the BMW is still the better consumer choice.
Woz is that gear head nerd that doesn't buy a new car because he can't work on the engine.
Its one thing to say Apples are easier to use due to superior design, but its another to try to say they are computers on training wheels for dummies and try to paint them in a negative light.
Whether you know what you're doing or not, Apple is still the better product.
And again, fancy voice commands aside, (which nobody uses IRL) Google Nav is still not better simply because you can't run it natively on iOS. It can't possibly be better if you have to get an Android to use it.
In the end Woz still owns an iPhone so your whole argument is moot anyway.
Still drinking that Koolaid? Your post are too easy to tear apart but I won't bother. All I'll say again is I own both, and totally disagree with everything you've said so far in these last couple post. And your car comparison is dumb and obviously you know nothing about building up cars b/c I can easily show you plenty of builds like a 67" Chevelle using your example that not only drives smooth on the road but will make an E92 M3 or E60 M5 feeling like a numb lumbering barge in handling. You've obviously never seen a pro-touring build.
Woz is just a tech guy plain and simple, you need to get out from that rock and get outside a little, man you take stuff way too seriously. Woz, immature? god lol.
Wow, you are a Apple fanboy through and through. This is just a horrendous post.
Woz just isnt close minded like Steve was. Nothing wrong with that.
Your are so biased it is ridiculous. I almost chose not to respond to you, but your post was so moronic that I couldn't help but to address it. Not better in any way? You've got to be kidding, there are plenty of ways it is better. Better nav (whether you want to admit it or not), better voice control, better customization, better cloud capabilities, better versatility...just to name a few things.
As for your poor analogy...actually a late model BMW is going to be much more complicated than an old Chevy. Old Chevy's don't have on-board nav, don't have heated seats, don't have heated mirrors, don't have seats with multiple user memory that you can program, etc. So yes the BMW WOULD be more complicated. Try again...you failed miserably there.
Your whole arguing Nav on Android isn't better because you don't have it on iOS is beyond idiotic. If you don't have it, then obviously that makes the other better by default because that's a feature it's missing. As for voice controls, there are people who actually do use it. I use it anytime I call a business. It's much faster to say "Call Best Buy" than to look it up and then call them. It's much easier to say "Call Costco" than to look up the number for Costco and then call them. It's much easier to say "Navigate to Cobb Galleria" than to look up the address to the Cobb Galleria and then launch the nav app. But I don't expect you to understand that, because you're unreasonably biased.
Also, what does him having an iPhone have to do with anything I said? I very clearly said that in my opinion iphone's biggest strength is also its biggest weakness. It's biggest strength is it's simple and there's really nothing for you to do to it. It's biggest weakness is that it's simple and there's not really anything you can change on it. When you get an iOS device, you're stuck with it the way it is for better or for worse. I do not like the hand holding approach Apple takes. That works great for some people, but I do not need to be babysat and am perfectly capable of managing my own device.
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This time if you respond, try to respond with an intelligent post with some semblance of objectivity.