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Are these the same people who were trashing WSJ for saying Verizon was getting the iPhone?!? :eek:
 
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wallstreet types and people who actually READ WSJ are the target demographics for this thats why Fox can afford to charge $17.99/month.


these people would gladly pay $17.99/month.

I actually don't think ANYONE is going to pay 18$ a month for the ipad version, at all.

And, it's really Rupert Murdoch (who owns much of News Corp, which owns FOX) and not FOX per se, that owns dow jones, which owns the WSJ.

I'm hoping they will keep some cheaper plan for paper/online/iphone subs, not just tacking on 18$ a month - which there is NO WAY I'll pay.
 
Someone explain to me why I would pay WSJ $17.99/month to use an iPad application when I can access WSJ.com on the same device at a cost of $2 per week.

What I understand (from a review) is that you can't. When it detects the iPad, it will let you download some teaser content but then the only way you will get additional content is to pay. Maybe if the iPad is jailbroken and you can spoof the browser user agent somehow, but for most of us, no.
 
wallstreet types and people who actually READ WSJ are the target demographics for this thats why Fox can afford to charge $17.99/month.


these people would gladly pay $17.99/month.

Or the companies that employ them, more likely. However, this price won't help Murdoch take the WSJ mainstream, which is what he wants. It needs to be priced the same as computer access, which is much less.
 
What I understand (from a review) is that you can't. When it detects the iPad, it will let you download some teaser content but then the only way you will get additional content is to pay. Maybe if the iPad is jailbroken and you can spoof the browser user agent somehow, but for most of us, no.

I think he means from the browser, and indeed if one has a sub to wsj.com, one can use safari on the ipad no problem and get all the content one normally gets. AND the GOOG trick works as well, if one is NOT logged in or doesn't have any account.

But, dowjones is most likely going to be closing that soon.
 
The app is pretty nice. It's a little slow navigating though. I tap something and it sometimes sits there for a while. Great content though.

I had the free access for a few days when I first got the app. It expired, I did not purchase access.

The other day I opened it up and I still have full access. I have not paid for anything. I checked my credit card to be sure. I tried to "buy" access just to see if something changed (like maybe it's not 17.99 a month anymore :)). I got a message that as a print subscriber (which I am) they are giving me full access for a "limited time".

I will not pay 17.99 a month for the content. I'd think about it if they eliminated all ads, the navigation improved, and they could push the morning paper to my iPad at a scheduled time. That way I could just grab my iPad and read it on the train.

Try USA Today if you're looking for a good free newspaper. The navigation is crisp.
 
couple things

I had the free access for a few days when I first got the app. It expired, I did not purchase access.

The other day I opened it up and I still have full access. I have not paid for anything. I checked my credit card to be sure. I tried to "buy" access just to see if something changed (like maybe it's not 17.99 a month anymore :)). I got a message that as a print subscriber (which I am) they are giving me full access for a "limited time".
Try USA Today if you're looking for a good free newspaper. The navigation is crisp.

couple things. I think wsj was getting their authentication servers setup during the first weekend and week of the ipad. I signed in, it authenticated and I had full access. Then, a couple days later it didn't work. I signed OUT and had full access, that worked a couple days then it didn't then I signed IN again, it logged me in but I had only limited access. Then a day later, it was fine all full access.

It will be free for current subs till July 2010 I think they said,

Also, the USA today app is fine, but very limited content at the moment AND they TOO will go PAID come June 2010.
 
couple things. I think wsj was getting their authentication servers setup during the first weekend and week of the ipad. I signed in, it authenticated and I had full access. Then, a couple days later it didn't work. I signed OUT and had full access, that worked a couple days then it didn't then I signed IN again, it logged me in but I had only limited access. Then a day later, it was fine all full access.

It will be free for current subs till July 2010 I think they said,

Also, the USA today app is fine, but very limited content at the moment AND they TOO will go PAID come June 2010.
Thanks!

That's great info. I was not aware of those dates.

I like the USA Today app just like I like the paper. It's a nice lite snapshot of news for when I'm traveling.
 
I hate the WSJ app. So much so that I deleted it and just use Safari to access WSJ.

USA Today has a really nice app.
 
And this is the real reason why the WSJ has been making so much of a fuss about the iPad.
 
Curious if anyone is using this on their iPad?

Value?

Can you use month to month or week to week to try it out?
 
Curious if anyone is using this on their iPad?

Value?

Can you use month to month or week to week to try it out?

I've been using it since it's free w/ my paper sub. I have a love/hate relationship with it. I'd love to ditch the paper version but the app navigation isn't 100% intuitive and 2) you still don't really get the skimming feel you have with a real paper.

OTOH its great when you want to finish reading an article you started or didn't get to in the paper ed. and also for reference once you've tossed the paper.

Is it worth $18/mo as a stand-alone product, no. I could see $10. They really should just keep packaging it with the online or paper ed.
 
use it

I use the wsj.com app all the time, I used the iphone version a BIT, but certainly not as much as the ipad version, which makes it much easier. It takes a few days of interacting with it to get comfortable with the navigation, but after that it is pretty good for consumption.

I LIKE the fact that I think it is about 95% of the online content and daily paper content. Of course, no stock numbers and such, but all that is better consumed with other apps. Also, there is MUCH more content than on the iphone product. So, it is a win win there. I have suspended my paper account for the mean time, even though I really only pay 80$ a year for everything, I like the fact I ain't recycling the paper daily.

18$ a month ON TOP of the normal sub, fagetabout, I MIGHT pay like 5$ more a month and give up paper, but would never pay anything NEAR 18$ just to have it on the ipad.

compared to the other newspaper apps like NY TIMES, and USA today both of which say they WILL charge in the coming months, one of the really nice advantages of the WSJ app is that it CACHES the entire week of papers on the device. So, while this means it takes a minute or so to sync every morning, it means that you can really take it with your where there isn't coverage and HAVE THE PAPER. The Nytimes and usatoday require a data connection to get any content.
 
I am okay with paying the same for an iPad subscription as I would for a print subscription. I would hope that over time, prices will come down a little further due to cost savings of not dealing with paper, production teams and trucks, as different media outlets start competing on price and realize they have more margins to work with in digital editions. But in the meantime, same as subscription price seems fair enough, or same as newsstand price for single issues.

However, I would like it to be handled in a unified way. I would prefer not to use a different app for each content provider. For example, I am willing to pay the $127 or so annual subscription for The Economist via Zinio, but I am holding off a little because I don't want to get locked into using Zinio for some magazines and not others. I am waiting for the dust to settle a bit.
 
First I am not at all sure why anyone would actually pay for a subscription to anything that Rubert Murdoch owns. He's a pig.

Second, if you think the price their going to charge is alot the NY times will be charging $20.00 a month for a Kindle like subscription soon enough.
 
NYT and WSJ should charge like that. They are the best daily general-purpose news organizations in the English-speaking world. Each employs hundreds (close to a thousand) journalists. I don't know enough about their business models to say exactly what they should charge. For example, print subscription costs may be partly subsidized by classifieds revenue on one hand, and on the other, it costs more to produce and deliver a lot of print copies. But as a starting point, I think pricing a digital subscription the same as a print subscription is fair.
 
I decided to grab the 4 week free online MTM subscription so I could get the IPad app version at no charge. I guess that is "courtesy" until July sometime. By then I'll know if it's worth the price. I can always cancel the online subscription as well.
 
First I am not at all sure why anyone would actually pay for a subscription to anything that Rubert Murdoch owns. He's a pig.

Second, if you think the price their going to charge is alot the NY times will be charging $20.00 a month for a Kindle like subscription soon enough.

I'll give my money to Murdoch happily before I give it to the Times duo. I loathe the Times.
 
I am on the fence about the WSJ. I love the app, but am having a hard time justifying why I would pay $18/month for the iPad sub. when I could get online for cheaper.

I am also on the fence regarding the Economist.

I guess I agree with a prior poster: I am waiting on the dust to settle a bit to see how pricing and delivery is all going to shake out.
 
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