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CosmoPilot

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When did this happen?

I have a family of 4 and we love Apple. We all have iPhones, iPads, AppleTV, MBP & iMac.

I'm just now finding out the policy has changed and we can only associate 10 devices to our iTunes account? This is not cool to change mid-stream after a family has made purchase decisions based upon the old policy of 5 computers and unlimited iDevices! So I say again, WTF?

Cosmo
 

HazyCloud

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I'm pretty sure Apple doesn't want you sharing an Apple ID so 10 is enough for a single person.
 

DeaconGTG

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10 idevices for a family of four. That gives you.

An iphone for each family member (substitute an ipod touch if one of them is too young for a phone)
An ipad for each family member
Two Apple TVs for the household.

I'd be curious why you would need more than that.
 

xraydoc

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So, set up a second Apple ID. What's the issue?

The issue is accessing paid, protected content - Apps, movies, iBooks, etc.

I have a family of 5 - each person has an iPhone. We have 4 iPads, 2 iPod touches and a total of 7 AppleTVs in the house. Not to mention 3 laptops and one iMac.

While we each have our own iCloud IDs for address books, email, etc., all devices use the same iTunes Store AppleID. To limit the number of devices would prevent us from accessing purchased material.

Feedback to Apple has been sent!
 

Night Spring

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So, set up a second Apple ID. What's the issue?

The issue would be having to repurchase apps/music/videos that a family wants to share.

agree with the above, it's not fair for app developers and/or publishers. 10 is more than enough for a family.

Say you have a family of 4 people, each with an iPhone and an iPad, plus an Apple TV. That's 9 already. Do computers count as devices? If they do, we are already over the limit. Even if they don't, this family just squeaks by under the limit. What if two people in this family also wants to add a nano? Oops, only one of them can!
 

greganpace

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The issue is accessing paid, protected content - Apps, movies, iBooks, etc.

I have a family of 5 - each person has an iPhone. We have 4 iPads, 2 iPod touches and a total of 7 AppleTVs in the house. Not to mention 3 laptops and one iMac.

While we each have our own iCloud IDs for address books, email, etc., all devices use the same iTunes Store AppleID. To limit the number of devices would prevent us from accessing purchased material.

Feedback to Apple has been sent!

7 AppleTVs? I think you have too much money.
 

Surf Monkey

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The issue is accessing paid, protected content - Apps, movies, iBooks, etc.

I have a family of 5 - each person has an iPhone. We have 4 iPads, 2 iPod touches and a total of 7 AppleTVs in the house. Not to mention 3 laptops and one iMac.

While we each have our own iCloud IDs for address books, email, etc., all devices use the same iTunes Store AppleID. To limit the number of devices would prevent us from accessing purchased material.

Feedback to Apple has been sent!



Makes no sense. Your whole family doesn't need to share every single piece of content on every single device. Get everyone their own ID and then use home sharing and AirPlay to throw content around between devices. Complaining that you can't distribute content from one account to as many devices as you want is completely unreasonable.
 

TheWheelMan

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The issue would be having to repurchase apps/music/videos that a family wants to share.



Say you have a family of 4 people, each with an iPhone and an iPad, plus an Apple TV. That's 9 already. Do computers count as devices? If they do, we are already over the limit. Even if they don't, this family just squeaks by under the limit. What if two people in this family also wants to add a nano? Oops, only one of them can!

What if the people who develop apps and content have a need to actually eat? In theory one could share content in that way over an entire community of people in that way. There has to be a limit somewhere, and I'm betting the reason they instituted the limit is because they discovered that too many people were abusing the system. I would blame them, not Apple.
 

metsjetsfan

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I'm pretty sure Apple doesn't want you sharing an Apple ID so 10 is enough for a single person.

yeah but apple wants you buying more than 10 devices. guess it's difficult for them to strike a balance between pleasing developers, content owner and the consumers
 

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The issue is accessing paid, protected content - Apps, movies, iBooks, etc.

I have a family of 5 - each person has an iPhone. We have 4 iPads, 2 iPod touches and a total of 7 AppleTVs in the house. Not to mention 3 laptops and one iMac.

While we each have our own iCloud IDs for address books, email, etc., all devices use the same iTunes Store AppleID. To limit the number of devices would prevent us from accessing purchased material.

Feedback to Apple has been sent!

Bling bling. Every time I come around your city, bling bling. My pinky ring worth about fifty, bling bling. Yokohama tires on my ride, bling bling.
 

bjett92

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yeah but apple wants you buying more than 10 devices. guess it's difficult for them to strike a balance between pleasing developers, content owner and the consumers

Apple doesn't want you to buy more than 10 devices, they simply don't want you sharing your Apple ID to spread apps and music to an unlimited amount of devices. Everybody should use their own Apple ID, it's your personal account.
 

metsjetsfan

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Apple doesn't want you to buy more than 10 devices, they simply don't want you sharing your Apple ID to spread apps and music to an unlimited amount of devices. Everybody should use their own Apple ID, it's your personal account.

Yeah but going back to the OP it is easy to accumulate 10 devices in a big family, and silly for him to re purchase a movie just so his youngest can have it as well. He's probably not the majority obv.

I agree apple doesn't want you buying 10 devices at once but over 5 years probably yes esp if you count mac as well as old iphones becoming itouches

Anyway looks like Apple TV and legacy ipods are not counted but macs are. Follow the link below you can check your own acct.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4627
 

CosmoPilot

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I think you all are completely missing the point. Apple HAS ALWAYS allowed 5 computers and UNLIMITED iDevices.

They just recently changed this policy! I have EXACTLY 10 Apple products. 3 iPhones, 2 iPads, MBP, iMac, iTouch, 2 Apple TVs.

I only found out about this issue while trying to download some music on a new Touch I bought for my daughter. I had to go into iTunes and remove an old device we don't use anymore.

I'm not certain, but I believe this issue is only for downloading Cloud content. So all your off handed remarks about Apple not wanting you to share an AppleID with multiple devices is just plain baseless and without any basis of fact!
 

Lukeyy19

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lets think about this. it's called an Apple ID

now ID, stands for Identification

Identification is defined as: A name or persona—the mask or appearance one presents to the world—by which one is known.

notice the use of One.

an Apple ID is meant for one person.

in much the same way is is illegal for you to buy a CD and make a copy of it for a friend or relative, or download a song and send it to a friend, it is illegal to share content between more than one person.

App developers put a lot of effort in their apps, all that time and money should be rewarded, you shouldn't be able to just pay once for 5 people to have it on every single one of their devices.

you're breaking the law, and you're complaining that Apple won't allow you to break the law even further.

do you also complain at your local game shop that they won't let you have 5 copies for the rest of your family when you pay for one, when you buy a pair of shoes, is it unacceptable to you that the rest of your family also don't get a free pair of shoes too?
 

tbayrgs

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How do you disable devices? Is this something you can do in itunes or app store?

Same question--or at least, how do you check what devices are authorized? I have 5 iPhones, 2 iPods, 2 iPads, and 3 Apple TVs all using the same Apple ID and haven't had any problems yet. Where does it say the limit is 10?

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lets think about this. it's called an Apple ID

now ID, stands for Identification

Identification is defined as: A name or persona—the mask or appearance one presents to the world—by which one is known.

notice the use of One.

an Apple ID is meant for one person.

in much the same way is is illegal for you to buy a CD and make a copy of it for a friend or relative, or download a song and send it to a friend, it is illegal to share content between more than one person.

App developers put a lot of effort in their apps, all that time and money should be rewarded, you shouldn't be able to just pay once for 5 people to have it on every single one of their devices.

you're breaking the law, and you're complaining that Apple won't allow you to break the law even further.

do you also complain at your local game shop that they won't let you have 5 copies for the rest of your family when you pay for one, when you buy a pair of shoes, is it unacceptable to you that the rest of your family also don't get a free pair of shoes too?

Give us a break already. Apple already allows you to authorize 5 computers so your preaching is nonsense in their eyes. Breaking the law? Come on already.

I see you have an iPhone, iPad, and Apple TV--you use 3 different Apple IDs for all of those devices and pay for 3 different copies of any media/apps you use? Say 'yes' and I'm sorry, you're lying.

I have no problem with a limit being set, just would like to know where it says what the limit is and how I can check where I stand as my iTunes account only seems to show the number of authorized computers.
 

timotay89

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Make one ID that is used on the Apple TVs. From there, set up to let the ipods/pad/phones mirror onto it with the home sharing thing (or whatever it is). Problem solved.
 

CosmoPilot

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lets think about this. it's called an Apple ID

now ID, stands for Identification

Identification is defined as: A name or persona—the mask or appearance one presents to the world—by which one is known.

notice the use of One.

an Apple ID is meant for one person.

in much the same way is is illegal for you to buy a CD and make a copy of it for a friend or relative, or download a song and send it to a friend, it is illegal to share content between more than one person.

App developers put a lot of effort in their apps, all that time and money should be rewarded, you shouldn't be able to just pay once for 5 people to have it on every single one of their devices.

you're breaking the law, and you're complaining that Apple won't allow you to break the law even further.

do you also complain at your local game shop that they won't let you have 5 copies for the rest of your family when you pay for one, when you buy a pair of shoes, is it unacceptable to you that the rest of your family also don't get a free pair of shoes too?


Really? Try reading this:
http://www.apple.com/itunes/inside-itunes/2010/01/sharing-itunes-libraries-at-home.html

Apple says "use the SAME iTunes account to share with ALL your family members!"

My point is, Apple used to allow unlimited iDevices.

To this point, they STILL DO!!! you just have to sync via cables & not use iCloud. THIS IS NOT BREAKING THE LAW!!!

So, if you have no idea what your talking about...plz stop talking!
 

CosmoPilot

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Log into iTunes on your computer. Click on your AppleID in the upper right hand corner. Log in & then you'll see a "manage devices". This is where you can remove an associated device.

In retrospect, I can see Apple limiting iCloud downloads, because this could be utilized by anyone, anywhere in the world. Physically syncing means the device probably belongs to the family.

We have 4 separate iCloud accounts, but we share an iTunes ID. So iTunes in the cloud is only available to 10 total Apple products.

I'll use homesharing to auto download from one computer to the other to free up 1 more device.
 
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