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WTF Apple? 10 Total devices w/AppleID?
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Again, I believe this is strictly an iTunes in the Cloud limitation.
It sucks nevertheless, but still allows you to wire sync from iTunes using a computer. Since Computers now count towards the 10 total it really puts fillies at a disadvantage for using Cloud downloads.
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Again, I believe this is strictly an iTunes in the Cloud limitation.
It sucks nevertheless, but still allows you to wire sync from iTunes using a computer. Since Computers now count towards the 10 total it really puts fillies at a disadvantage for using Cloud downloads.
Apple is hosting a whole lot of data for you for free. It's not unreasonable that they would limit the bandwidth they're on the hook for by limiting the number of devices they're obliged to push data too. Instead of complaining about it, just say thanks that they're offering you free cloud storage at all. 
I'm glad you got your situation figured out, though.
I'm glad you got your situation figured out, though.
No, I do not have different accounts for them, they are all my devices used solely by me, on my own personal Apple ID, Whereas my sister who has an iPod touch has her own Apple ID.
Clarification: According to Apple's website, any computer you have setup to automatically download purchased content counts towards your 10 device total. Also, any device you've used to download an app or music from the cloud will be associated towards your 10 count total. So if you have a device that you've never used to download content from the cloud will not be counted. You can always use iTunes as in the past to remain at an unlimited amount of devices.
Hope that clears this issue up and answers everyones questions.
Hope that clears this issue up and answers everyones questions.
This seems to be limited to devices making use of "iTunes in the Cloud." So I would agree that, at this point, it looks like if you sync manually with iTunes (either via USB or wifi) and do not download on the device from the iTunes Store/App Store it won't count against your total.
It also appears, by looking at my account data in iTunes, that AppleTVs do not count towards the total. I only see the iPhones/iPads/iPods and Macs on the list. None of the AppleTVs are listed, though I haven't rented anything on them since iCloud came out I don't think.
Oh ok, you guys scared me there for a sec.
So you can still sync using USB while plugged in to your itunes account its just you cant use iCloud to sync to more than 10.
Cause since the original iphone 2G I owned every single iphone including me and my wife and brother share the same itunes account and with replacements received I probably synced over 15 different iphones with my library.
On a more serious note, as already mentioned, 10 devices is more than enough to be able to install the same app free of charge. Think about it. Apple is being too charitable.
$2 app? Fine. I'll buy a second time to sync with the next 10 devices.
What about the $20 HD movie? Or the $40 TV show season pass? Do I need to also buy those twice?
In order for something to be 'illegal' there must first be a LAW that prohibits it. As far as I know there is no law even addressing Apple IDs in any country. Now perhaps one exists and if you know of one please provide links.
That being said, Apple not only allows multiple devices per ID but encourages it. Apple also allows multiple people to share purchases through the use of the same Apple ID. An Apple 'genious' actually suggested it to me when I bought my husband an iPad.
1) the fact that it is NOT even against your TOS and
2) the fact that Apple actually provides the ability to share purchases should tell you that your analogies are off base.
You may consider it immoral but as of now it is neither illegal nor prohibited by Apple.
Thanks for the info, I ran into that limit recently when I tried setting up our new iPhone 4S's. I've got a family of four myself and as the kids get older they'll be moving from iPods to iPhones and Macs, I think the 10 count is a bit limiting but I feel better that it is only a cloud limitation. I just went in and deleted my old devices that I've sold and replaced.
This ten device limit is specifically linked to a single iCloud account only, no? In my house, we all use the same iTunes Store Account (for music, books, videos, apps, etc.) and we currently have three iPhone 4S's, two 3GS's, a 3G, three Macs, and Apple TV, and an iPad. We've never encountered any problems.
I believe the limit is because of the syncing of bookmarks, calendars, contacts, and also the backing up of data, to iCloud.
Each of us have one separate account to our main iTunes account that we use specifically for iCloud, Game Center, and so on.
I believe the limit is because of the syncing of bookmarks, calendars, contacts, and also the backing up of data, to iCloud.
Each of us have one separate account to our main iTunes account that we use specifically for iCloud, Game Center, and so on.
It's un-American.
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OP, you are going about this all wrong. What you should do is enable home sharing on your primary iTunes computer. Then you have access to every AppleTV in the house through that. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3819
That's a lot of Apple products sir
although i used to have more products but unfortunately I had to sell them.
The old policy made sense when iDevices were dependent on computers. Not so much now that iOS 5 has largely removed that dependence.
There has to be some limit, don't you agree? Or should it really be unlimited? Should a large group of friends be able to share a single movie? All the employees in a company? Everyone in Luxembourg?
10 devices sounds reasonable to me.
Unlimited Is definitely a no go. Though would be nice if you could lend media to someone with another iTunes account. I mean you can lend a physical book or DVD to a friend. Obviously there would need to be certain restrictions. Like only allowing the trade between nearby devices, and limiting how many trades you can make within a certain time period. But this way families wouldn't need to share the same account.
Well, I think most people don't want to share their account password with everyone in Luxembourg, or with a large group of friends. So I don't think there is a need to set a numerical limit, because sharing would naturally be limited to family members, and perhaps a very few trusted friends.
Well, Apple does allow for unlimited devices if you manually sync them via a computer. In terms of sharing with the world? Apple is fine with that as long as you understand as soon as you use someone else's AppleID to use that particular app or music, your lose the ability to utilize any content you've purchased on your AppleID. Also, if Luxembourg wants to share a single AppleID, they all have to sync to 5 computers. The lines will be very long when getting a large app!
Large family
I was worried for a while. We have a large family (4 kids) with LOTS of Apple devices - so far 4 iPhones, 3 iPads, 5 iPod Touch, 6 Macs - and I really don't think it is reasonable to pay twice for e.g. games and books that we all share in the household.
As long as you can sync to the same physical computer, I think that is fine. I can see they have to limit the iCloud syncing and 10 is as good a number as anything IMO.
I was worried for a while. We have a large family (4 kids) with LOTS of Apple devices - so far 4 iPhones, 3 iPads, 5 iPod Touch, 6 Macs - and I really don't think it is reasonable to pay twice for e.g. games and books that we all share in the household.
As long as you can sync to the same physical computer, I think that is fine. I can see they have to limit the iCloud syncing and 10 is as good a number as anything IMO.
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Copyright Law, it is illegal to issue, share, copy, rent or lend work created by someone else to anyone, without consent of the owner, so i guess Apple have the consent to issue it over a certain amount of devices, but it's all up to the Content Owners
you have the ability to create copies of CDs, doesn't make it legal.
Copy, yes. Rent or share? Actually copyright law, at least in the United States, forbids companies from restricting the transfer of goods after the consumer has legally purchased it. It's called the first sale doctrine. The problem is that no court has yet attempted to apply the doctrine to digital goods.