WWDC 2023 was great but where can we buy an 18-inch or 20-inch MacBook Pro with M2 ULTRA?

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MacBook Studio

• M3 Ultra SoC
• 512GB ECC LPDDR5X RAM
• 16TB storage (eight 2TB NAND chips)
• 18" 120Hz ProMotion XDR OLED touchscreen display (can rotate 180 degrees and close back over keyboard/trackpad for tablet mode)
• Low-profile back-lit mechanical keyboard
• Trackpad
• Apple Pencil 3

 

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MacBook Studio

• M3 Ultra SoC
• 512GB ECC LPDDR5X RAM
• 16TB storage (eight 2TB NAND chips)
• 18" 120Hz ProMotion XDR OLED touchscreen display (can rotate 180 degrees and close back over keyboard/trackpad for tablet mode)
• Low-profile back-lit mechanical keyboard
• Trackpad
• Apple Pencil 3

Yes this MacBook Studio will be great.

We will also see a 14-inch iPad Pro (M3 / M3 Pro chip) and a 16-inch iPad Ultra (M3 Pro / M3 Max chip):
See google links and also videos.

= Now it should be obvious that we will see a bigger MacBook or two with M3 Ultra.
If you compare 18-inch and 20-inch versions with old notebooks, don't forget that both will come with edge to edge display. They probably will look like 17-inch and 19-inch devices.


15-inch MacBook Air M3
17-inch MacBook M3 Pro and M3 Max
19-inch MacBook M3 Ultra

 

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Intel 15/16" Macbook Pros had an Intel CPU that maxed out at around 100w and dedicated AMD GPUs in a laptop that is thinner than current Apple Silicon MBPs. Razer just released a fairly thin 14" laptop that contains a 125w Nvidia GPU.

M1 Ultra is around 60w max for CPU and 100w for GPU, I believe. Don't quote me on the figures.

It's possible to make a laptop that's fairly thin and houses an M Ultra chip - especially in an 18" laptop - and have a decent thermal experience. You can think of an Ultra SoC as normal highend AMD/Intel/Nvidia laptop chips. The thermals are similar. The fans will run much more often though. But when you're not maxing the chip out, it should stay fairly cool and quiet.

I'm guessing anyone who buys an 18" Macbook Pro with an Ultra SoC is willing to put up with extra fan noise and heat. To them, they're buying a portable workstation and don't care about it being noisier/hotter.

I can see Apple eventually making a Macbook Ultra that is 18", thicker than current 16" MBPs, and contain an Ultra SoC. They seem to be moving towards the Ultra branding with the Watch Ultra, rumored iPhone Ultra, and rumored 14" iPad. It seems like Apple wants to make a lineup for people who don't care about having thin/light devices and just want more power.

Thanks for the great informations.

 

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PC laptops have Intel Core i9-13900HX that is faster than the M2 Max while having a RTX 4090 at 175W at the same time.

So you know it's easily doable to put a M2 Ultra in a laptop without any issues at all.

But Apple is known to be terrible at engineering. Apple their cooling is so bad in general, Apple could only put a slow Intel chip with integrated graphics in the 13" MBP. Yet PC laptops were able to put a RTX 3080 in a 14" laptop that was pretty much the same size as the 13" MBP.

And it will be much easier when using the M3 Ultra chip.
CPU: AMD and Intel are going to sell much better chips 2023 and also 2024 with much more cores and much lower watt usage.
GPU: Nvidia will double the performance of their tensor cores with RTX 5090.
Practically speaking it's unavoidable for Apple to release the MacBook M3 ULTRA.

Question:
How many MacBook M_ generations do we need to wait, until a MAX chip will be as fast as an M1 ULTRA chip when using all cores?