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Appl3FTW

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Toyota Camry Vs Lexus ES

Honda CRV vs Acura RDX

Basic vs Premium

One is basically premium and one is basic. Albeit the screen size is .3mm off. It’s been happening for years people it’s not that hard.
 
I just realized something too.

If Apple discontinued the x. So technically if people wants the premium build of the X, then they have to buy used. That means I can possibly sell my 256gb X for around 899.

2018 XR- $899 for 256gb
2017 X- $899? for 256gb
 
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The XS is just too expensive for my principles so for me it would be better to compare the XR to the 8+. Despite the XR having a good camera and A12 processor I’d still opt for the 8+ and save the extra cash. They are pretty much the same physical size and I wouldn’t get all emotion over a few millimetres of extra screen on the XR.
 
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Well, I'm over 50 so my eyesight isn't what it used to be. I find myself sometimes squinting at the 4.7" 8 which is why I'm going for the Xr to replace it. Still keeping my X, though.
 
I just realized something too.

If Apple discontinued the x. So technically if people wants the premium build of the X, then they have to buy used. That means I can possibly sell my 256gb X for around 899.

2018 XR- $899 for 256gb
2017 X- $899? for 256gb

No, here in the U.K. the X 256GB is still 1000 at least and that’s discounted.
Now you can get the XR 128GB for 799. And it has an awful lot of features from the XS.
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Same engine and more powerful than last year's luxury car. Yup. One is the "peasant" iPhone just like the SE was. LOL


Pretty good video.
 
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I'm quite excited about the Xr, mainly due to the 6.1" screen - should make reading in bed a lot easier, although saying that I used to read on a 3.5" screen. My iPad is too unwieldy for use in bed.
 
I'm going to enjoy this red Toyota Camry then. Better looking than the silver/space gray/gold Lexus you own. More horsepower than your last year's Lexus. LOL!

iPhone owners vs iPhone owners vs iPhone owners threads makes me laugh. Trying to justify their own purchases. It's ok if you want to spend $250 or had spent $250 more on better build quality. Tim Cook would be more happy for that.

$649/720p/16 GB
iPhone 6
iPhone 6s
iPhone 7

$699/720p/64 GB
iPhone 8

$749/720p/64 GB
iPhone XR

XR is only $50 more than last year's 8 and people are whining about the display?

iPhone 5c - $549
iPhone 5s - $649

iPhone 6s - $649
iPhone SE - $399

iPhone XR - $749
iPhone XS - $999

Measurements
XS - H: 143.6 mm, W: 70.9 mm, T: 7.7 mm
XR - H: 150.9 mm, W: 75.7 mm, T: 8.3 mm

It's a little wider with slightly larger bezels but I do get roomier leg room and dashboard. Typing on a XS is like typing on a "5 Pixel. So yeah.. Keep bashing the peasant iPhone with the same exact SoC and main rear camera as the $999 one.

The new narrative to complain about a 720p display or an aluminum frame when the $50 cheaper iPhone 8 had the same things and nobody pointed that out. It can't really be a downgrade to last year's X when the guts and main eyeball is better than it. Way better fuel efficiency too. Be practical.

XS = the eXcesS fat
XR = lean meat

Give me the bloody, red Toyota Camry then! The peasant car with better MPG than a Lexus.

Very, very peasant-looking. LOL
 
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I guess we don't need another ''vs'' thread so I'm gonna ask here, if you allow...

Guys, which would you recommend as the first iphone, XS or XR? I'm looking to convert from android but I'm lost with the choice. Also, I never had an OLED phone.

I was thinking buying the XR mainly cause it has a bit wider screen but on the other hand, the XS has the better resolution so I'm wondering would that extra 0,3 inches be of any major advantage on a less sharp (LCD) screen?

Also, I don't need a 2 day battery nor a special colored phone.

Thanks!
 
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guys, which would you recommend as the first iphone, XS or XR? I'm looking to convert from android but I'm lost with the choice. Also, I never had an OLED phone.
I was thinking buying the XR mainly cause it has a bit wider screen but on the other hand, the XS has the better resolution so I'm wondering would that extra 0,3 inches be of any major advantage on a less sharp (LCD) screen? Also, I don't need a 2 day battery nor a special colored phone.
The XS and XR are in different size classes. Think of the XR as a shrunk down version of the XS Max, with cheaper parts and no telephoto lens. It has the same effective screen real estate as the Max, but shrinks the screen down a bit.

The XS is designed with less screen real estate than both the Max and the XR, which have 22% more effective screen real estate.

I would suggest waiting until the XR is on display in-store. If the XR's screen meets your needs, then get that and save money. The OLED screens are superior, but for many people it's not really worth the extra cash.

I'm personally strongly considering the XR, since for the storage I'd need for the Max would cost a total of 57% more than the XR. The main thing I'd really miss on the Max is the telephoto lens. OLED on a phone isn't critical for me, and I say that as someone who just dropped thousands of dollars on a 65" OLED TV.
 
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The XR offers an inferior experience. If $250 for 12/24 months is that important to you, great. Enjoy your phone.
Why is the experience inferior? It's got everything as the XS besides the screen which is inferior, but that won't make it an inferior experience.
 
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The XR offers an inferior experience. If $250 for 12/24 months is that important to you, great. Enjoy your phone.
For my storage size class, the Max costs US$450 more at $1249 at 256 GB than the XR $799 at 128 GB. Some may say that is not a fair comparison, and it isn't, but it is what suits me. There is no 128 GB Max available to purchase, so the next step up is 256 GB. However, I don't need 256 GB. 128 GB is perfect for me.

I am not even considering the XS because it's too small. I'm not talking just about the screen size, but the intended point display size. The XS is designed to display 375x812 points. Both the XR and Max are designed to display 414x896 points, or 21.8% more.
 
I'm going to enjoy this red Toyota Camry then. Better looking than the silver/space gray/gold Lexus you own. More horsepower than your last year's Lexus. LOL!

Dude, how many more threads are you going to jump into, trying to convince yourself you've chosen the right phone? Nobody cares. Get what feels right for you. If it's the inferior XR, go right ahead. You'll save money! You'll get better battery life! Go right ahead and enjoy. But do us all a favour and stop this narrative that you've somehow trumped everyone else.
 
I personally don't feel the price difference is large enough to justify the sacrifice in specs, but maybe that's just me.

You get lcd versus oled (imo we are at a point where oled shouldn't be considered premium and reserved for $1000+ devices).

You get a reduced quality camera (although this might not be that huge a hit for many, but the reality is it's just not as good).

Storage (beyond base) is more expensive, for some strange reason. Again, imo this is just a means to place more value on the premium models.

Frankly I feel like the xr should've replaced the 7 and 8, come with the internals of last year's X, and come in at $650. Obviously I'm not saying Apple doesn't know what they're doing. And they'll probably do just fine. It's just crazy to me that $750 is no longer the flagship device when the flagship used to cost $650 with base storage. Add in inflation and etc. and I'm still not seeing the value here. And this is from someone that purchased an X last year.

I'll be holding onto the X for as long as I can. I'm just not able to justify the yearly expense anymore.
 
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You get a reduced quality camera (although this might not be that huge a hit for many, but the reality is it's just not as good).
The XR loses the telephoto, but it's actually got the same wide angle camera as the XS and Max.

The XR, XS, and XS Max all have a superior wide angle camera than the X does, for example.
 
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The XR loses the telephoto, but it's actually got the same wide angle camera as the XS and Max.

The XR, XS, and XS Max all have a superior wide angle camera than the X does, for example.
That's zoom, right? I personally felt zooms was the biggest notable change in my X versus 6s plus. Real world photos, for my use, I noticed way bigger difference between being able to zoom versus not. If we got not optical zoom thisbyear I might have even considered an upgrade. My only camera 99.999999% of thentome is my iPhone.
 
Go read the stats: https://www.apple.com/au/iphone/compare/

Again, it's down to you. The XR is an awesome phone. But to pretend it's 'up there' because you're trying to self-justify purchasing a phone which is objectively inferior to even Samsung models, just makes you look silly.
I'm not justifying as I'm not interested in the XR at all, it's just not right to say it's an inferior experience as it's basically the same as any other iPhone, in fact the XR has everything the XS does besides the screen which is disappointing,
 
That's zoom, right? I personally felt zooms was the biggest notable change in my X versus 6s plus. Real world photos, for my use, I noticed way bigger difference between being able to zoom versus not. If we got not optical zoom thisbyear I might have even considered an upgrade. My only camera 99.999999% of thentome is my iPhone.
The XR loses the telephoto zoom lens yes.

I have the telephoto on my 7 Plus, but I found I used it less than expected, because the quality wasn't as good. But I'm sure the XS Max's zoom lens is noticeably better than what I have on my 7 Plus.

Also, the telephoto lens is what my 7 Plus uses for Portrait Mode. Previously the single-lens iPhones did not have Portrait Mode, but what intrigued me with the XR is it gets Portrait Mode with its single lens.

I don't know how well it will work on the XR though, but I hear it works pretty well on Google Pixel 2.
 
While I understand Apple’s reasons for doing so, what makes this incredibly difficult to judge is the staggered release and lack of hands-on comparison between the models. While you can objectively argue that the XR has lesser specs and the XS/XS Max is worth the cost of upgrades you get for the money, you can’t hold both in your hands and compare side by side in stores until October 26. At that point, everyone can judge (for themselves) which mode is subjectively “worth it.”
 
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The more i read about the XR more it seems to me that with the XR you get by far better phone for the money. IMO $749 i a fair price for the XR especially $799 for the 128GB version, yes, $699 would be better but it's much better than the last-year's iphone 8. The XS should cost $899; that'd be fair price and it'd sell much MUCH better. Just IMO.
 
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