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Yahoo vents frustration over App Store process

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FearNo1

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I smell a future lawsuit regarding apple's ultra control of the app store.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-10313434-265.html?tag=newsEditorsPicksArea.0

Yahoo appears to be a little miffed that Apple's App Store reviewers are still sitting on an update to the Yahoo Messenger for iPhone application.

In a post titled "And so we wait...on Apple," Yahoo's Sarah Bacon calls out Apple for "the somewhat unpredictable process for getting apps approved and released" on the App Store. Yahoo said it submitted an update for the Yahoo Messenger app (iTunes link) two weeks ago, but has nothing to show for it.

Now, as App Store approval delays or rejections go, two weeks is nothing. Yahoo could just ask Sling Media how it felt about the month-long delay in the approval process for SlingPlayer Mobile, or rival Google about the rejection of Google Voice from the App Store. But Yahoo's decision to publicly call out Apple is interesting, given the possible thawing of relations between iPhone developers and Apple following Apple Senior Vice President of Marketing Phil Schiller's outreach to bloggers and developers.

"Anyone want to bet that Facebook's app, which was submitted after ours, gets approved first?" Bacon asked. No action, Yahoo, especially now.
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FearNo1 said:
I smell a future lawsuit regarding apple's ultra control of the app store.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-10313434-265.html?tag=newsEditorsPicksArea.0

Yahoo appears to be a little miffed that Apple's App Store reviewers are still sitting on an update to the Yahoo Messenger for iPhone application.

In a post titled "And so we wait...on Apple," Yahoo's Sarah Bacon calls out Apple for "the somewhat unpredictable process for getting apps approved and released" on the App Store. Yahoo said it submitted an update for the Yahoo Messenger app (iTunes link) two weeks ago, but has nothing to show for it.

Now, as App Store approval delays or rejections go, two weeks is nothing. Yahoo could just ask Sling Media how it felt about the month-long delay in the approval process for SlingPlayer Mobile, or rival Google about the rejection of Google Voice from the App Store. But Yahoo's decision to publicly call out Apple is interesting, given the possible thawing of relations between iPhone developers and Apple following Apple Senior Vice President of Marketing Phil Schiller's outreach to bloggers and developers.

"Anyone want to bet that Facebook's app, which was submitted after ours, gets approved first?" Bacon asked. No action, Yahoo, especially now.
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Mmmmm Bacon.
 
I think if you got approved once you should not have to go through the ringer again, but if you have something that needs to be changed it can be yanked until its been amended. Either that or have some developers be "certified" as a trusted app. developer.
 
duelingdragons said:
This kind of stuff really pisses me off.
Greedy *******s at Apple.
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If they were greedy (I'm not saying that they aren't- Apple is a corporation after all), wouldn't they approve everything right away without proper filtering so that more Apps could be sold, thereby increasing the amount of money they make?

I don't think that this qualifies as an example of greedy. I think it's more of an understaffing issue.
 
This is interesting, especially with Apple=Google relations thinning out.. now Yahoo isn't impressed...

maybe Apple can create their own search engine/stock app/weather/maps.. etc..
 
kicko said:
I think if you got approved once you should not have to go through the ringer again, but if you have something that needs to be changed it can be yanked until its been amended. Either that or have some developers be "certified" as a trusted app. developer.
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Exactly. Perhaps big-name developers like Yahoo! and Facebook should be "certified" and get some sort of auto-approval? It took Apple about a week or some to approve an only-bug fixes update for BeejiveIM...

http://twitter.com/BeejiveIM/status/3290243030
http://twitter.com/BeejiveIM/status/3371579382
 
But... that's the American way. :rolleyes:

Well then, all developers in good standing should be "certified."
 
TheMBC said:
Exactly. Perhaps big-name developers like Yahoo! and Facebook should be "certified" and get some sort of auto-approval?
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I think some kind of hand holding would be nice, particularly to continue to encourage major developers like EA, Square, etc, to be on the iPhone. I don't know about auto approval... Yahoo in any event should be encouraged ... as much as I hate YM for its infamous IM spam, the fact that they're paying attention to Apple's ecosystem again is promising.
 
TheMBC said:
But... that's the American way. :rolleyes:

Well then, all developers in good standing should be "certified."
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hah, ya. Honestly, Apple is a real "damned if they do, damned if they don't" position with this stuff.

They guard too closely, everyone bitches - they let stuff slide, everyone bitches.
 
hahaha...

I never LOLd so hard in my life...

Tell them to try and submit an app to the new Microsoft WinMo app store...

Their portal doesn't work, they are changing requirements post submittal and expecting submittal's prior to the change to comply, and when they don't you have to pay again once out of your 5 "grace" submittals.

There have been 8 changes to the requirements doc so far this month.

You also have to submit for each language/country combination separately.

They don't even take a single graphic and auto resize it for where they will be used on websites, phones etc... you have to submit 9 different icons.

The apple submission and approval process is a well oiled machine and a cake walk compared to MS.

P.S. I have been/am still a Microsoft Developer/Engineer for 18+ years... so don't lay any fanboi comments on me.

And yes, I've submitted apps to both MS and Apple.
 
bitslap47 said:
They don't even take a single graphic and auto resize it for where they will be used on websites, phones etc... you have to submit 9 different icons.
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Wow, interesting insights on the MS process, thanks. (I have not been following their app store development). This particular thing has been a long-term nuisance with Windows Mobile. Back when WM5 came out, maybe four or five years ago, and VGA-class devices started appearing, it was a major nuisance in that hardly any apps available for WM handled VGA in a good way -- it was one or another of a variety of awful treatments, rendering the screen large eye candy -- the only things it did well at 640x480 were show photographs and PDFs and smooth fonts. :rolleyes:

I think MS is really going to have a tough time with how different all their WM products are, one from the next.
 
if the reason behind these lengthy processes is manpower well maybe they need to reorganize and hire some extra people, after all this country needs jobs and Apple lights cigars with $50s im sure they could pay someone a decent sum and teach them the ropes.
 
cellocello said:
hah, ya. Honestly, Apple is a real "damned if they do, damned if they don't" position with this stuff.

They guard too closely, everyone bitches - they let stuff slide, everyone bitches.
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That's about right.

And it seems to be an ongoing theme for all Apple products and services.
 
mkrishnan said:
Wow, interesting insights on the MS process, thanks. (I have not been following their app store development). This particular thing has been a long-term nuisance with Windows Mobile. Back when WM5 came out, maybe four or five years ago, and VGA-class devices started appearing, it was a major nuisance in that hardly any apps available for WM handled VGA in a good way -- it was one or another of a variety of awful treatments, rendering the screen large eye candy -- the only things it did well at 640x480 were show photographs and PDFs and smooth fonts. :rolleyes:

I think MS is really going to have a tough time with how different all their WM products are, one from the next.
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Here you go, have a read. I'm actually surpised no press has picked up on this yet to be honest:

http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/mktplace/thread/9a9695bc-fa72-429c-b780-d7068116589f

http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/mktplace/threads
 
Ha. 2 weeks? One of my apps hve been in review for 5+ Months and in te end got rejected.

I didn't get frustrated until it got rejected. I'm sure a big company like Yahoo can wait until they have reached my wait time of 5+ Months and when it gets rejected because "Its Illegal" when it's not then they can make an article about it.
 
LOL..

Did anyone click on the link in the CNET article recently? Actual Blog Link

It appears at 4:47PM, she updated her blog:
My bad, I was mistaken. As some of you might have seen earlier, I wrote a post incorrectly calling out Apple for a delay in the iPhone app approval process. This is what I get for partaking in too much of the free caffeine we get here on the Yahoo! campus…

Turns out I didn’t have the latest information about our Yahoo! Messenger for iPhone app, which is awaiting approval and release by Apple.

If you want all of the gory details… Two weeks ago we submitted an updated version of Yahoo! Messenger for the iPhone to the App Store for approval, but withdrew it to make some additional fixes and enhancements. Doing so reset the approval process timeline.

So the newly submitted Yahoo! Messenger for iPhone app has been with Apple for less than a week, and is well within the timeframe for their approval process.
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Open Mouth, Insert Bacon.
 
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