lol she is so fired! (Donald Trump style).
The AppStore is just like Walmart (or any store) Apple can decide what products they want to sell. It may not be fair, but that's the way it works. Don't buy Apple products if you don't like it.
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Yahoo vents frustration over App Store process
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lol she is so fired! (Donald Trump style).
The AppStore is just like Walmart (or any store) Apple can decide what products they want to sell. It may not be fair, but that's the way it works. Don't buy Apple products if you don't like it.
Sounds good enough, but it's a bit of a problem when Apple is the only distributor. Now, allow apps to be purchased directly from the developers and I'm all for allowing Apple to do whatever they want with their app store; approve, reject, in however much time they want and I couldn't care less.
Oh yeah, like GPush!
Back on topic... I believe a lot of developers including Yahoo! are ticked off not so much by the time it takes for the approval process as by the inconsistency and lack of transparency with the process.
I agree Apple could be a bit more open. They could publish the queue on their Web site so we will know where the next versioss of our favourite apps are, or something like that...
Just FYI, Palringo's newest version was rejected a few times for reasons 'that were there in the old version of the app still available in the app store,' and the final version that was approved was submitted 2 DAYS before being put in the app store. So Yahoo has a point, its not a fist-come, first-serve basis. Unless they give rejected apps priority.
You know, I agree with most of the complaints about the App Store, however I personally cannot think of a better solution.
Hire more people? Have specific accept and rejection standards? Yeah, that'd help. But the system would still be plagued with problems.
Hire more people? Have specific accept and rejection standards? Yeah, that'd help. But the system would still be plagued with problems.
You mean like more of the spyware, malware, email-spewing bots, root kits, and keyloggers that you can find by downloading random Windows apps off of random web pages?
No thanks. That would make people like me buy less stuff from the App store, especially from the new small unknown developers.
And there are already enough apps in the App store that simply don't work or outright crash (read the reviews). That shows that Apple has room to make their review process even more thorough. The App store doesn't need a higher percentage of either kind of cr*p, IMO.
That would simply make it easier for clever crooks to figure out how to game the review system.
The way it is now, successful developers have to play it on the safe side, and even that's a bit risky.
I just love the laugh from the people who worship apple. Think apple could do no wrong.
if Microsoft pulled even have the **** apple is pulling with app store there would be all kinds of hell and complaining. That goes double for people like you.
Apple needs clear guide lines on its apps. What things is it looking for, what things will get rejections and when something is rejected TELL them why.
Um.
They are pulling at LEAST half, but probably more like twice as much.
Getting charged 100 bucks per app submission for starters as opposed to Apple's 100 per YEAR for unlimited submissions.
Try getting educated on a subject before incorrectly speaking about it?
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/mktplace/threads
I put the key word in bold and underline for you. The AppStore has been around for 2 years now, it should be more refined then something that has just come out. But you should know that because you're a veteran developer right?
Yes it's new.
As a veteran developer I know it should be in better shape than it is, especially when you are begging developers to submit applications and soliciting iPhone developers to port their apps.
The other thing I know as a veteran developer is that there is no excuse for the errors everyone is encountering.
I hope you aren't a developer because anybody OK with software not working like the MS app store/dev portal just because it is new has low standards.
What they are doing isn't rocket science or cutting edge... and their is no excuse for the minimal basic functionality required for the site to fulfill it's purpose not working.
This isn't advanced functionality or special case scenarios... this is golden path ***** here.
I don't know of any end user that would be OK with paying for software that doesn't perform at least it's basic function.
Would you buy a game that crashed right away when launched and be OK with it because it is new?
That is what is happening here... the developers paid for a product that does not work, and Microsoft is not offering any support beyond vague answers in a minimally monitored forum.
I'm not OK with it.
With Apple, their portal worked, and i could pick up the phone and get answers. And yes... I used Apples portal when it was brand spanking new... and it was way more ready for prime time with all basic features being functional.
I am a Microsoft developer, but I don't do mobile applications and I haven't been following the Microsoft App Store so I didn't know of all the problems it was having. I was simply replying based on the facts that were posted in this thread. I agree no product should be put out full of bugs. However, on a first release of a product, there are bound to be some bugs (hopefully minor ones), which is what I thought the case was here. Putting out software with bugs on the core functionality from any corporation is unacceptable, especially from a company like Microsoft.
Don't get me wrong, their core technology team is second to none. The Compact Framework and especially native libraries are stellar.
I LOVE Visual Studio.
It's seems like the team in charge of the mobile app store though is the bottom of the barrel... they just can't seem to get it together and they aren't being responsive/attentive.
The biggest burn here is $100 per submission after your first five grace submissions (only available to developers who agree to sign up before it's official launch in the Fall.)
So they change the requirements twice and eat up 2 of those... so you have 3 left for your first $99.
Now, you need to submit separately for PPC and Smartphone, and for each country.
So If I submit for:
US/English PPC
US/English Smartphone
Canada/English PPC
Canada/English Smartphone
Now I'm up to $200 for one app.
I happen to want to submit in Europe, Different languages, so I will be paying thousands of dollars... to submit one app.
In a new app store.
With no proven sales metrics.
That doesn't work properly. <---- This is where the pill hurts when swallowing.
well damn. I will wait and see how it all turns out. With windows mobile you do not have to go throw the app store to sell your app. This compared to the iphone where the ONLY place to sell your app is on the app store.
Mind you I hope microsoft gets their act together on the app store because it sounds pretty messed up. I personally am starting to learn a little coding and would not mind playing with windows mobile, BB and iPhone. Really question will be the cost to enter each one.
for MS you can download a free version of visual studio which has a lot of features. otherwise just get MSDN and you can download a lot of other products for one annual fee.
30%
"Transaction Fee means a percentage of Net Sales Revenue of an Application retained by Microsoft as a
fee for distributing the Application. The Transaction Fee shall be thirty percent (30%) of Net Sales
Revenue for each Application."
http://developer.windowsmobile.com/...arketplace Application Provider Agreement.pdf
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