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cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
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I think the physical design (shape) is too much opinion to make one better then the other.

Overall I wish the iPhone 5 had:

2 antennas so you could do voice and data on Verizon's network.

NFC, plenty of places I go support it. McDonald's, Home Depot, CVS, Walgreens, etc

And had a bigger screen. If Motorola can put a 4.3" screen in a Razr M which is about the size of an iPhone 4/4S then why did apple have to make the 5 even bigger to only get a 4" screen on it?

If the 5 had those 3 things I would have waited in line for one. But until then I'll stick with my 4S. I wish I could make my own phone, it would be a Razr M with a bigger battery and vanilla Android.

Things like a barometer I don't really need or at least I don't think I do (my Xoom has one). I could even do without NFC but I think it would have been neat.
 

Dave.UK

macrumors 65816
Sep 24, 2012
1,290
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Kent, UK
Samsung has larger display, good internals, good camera, poor materials, bad design (you can't say the S3 has a better physical design).

Personal opinion.

I'll probably be the only one on here, but I actually like the look and feel of the Galaxy S3.
 

mackinmike

macrumors 6502a
May 3, 2012
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I have both the s3 and the ip5 and I can say the screen size of the ip5 is tiny. Quality of the display goes to ip5 tho but I think its because images look sharper on smaller screens.

I use the s3 more than my iphone. Lets just say iPhone doesn't have the edge anymore.
 

Oracle1729

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Feb 4, 2009
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The fact that you think 720p matters on a tiny screen says volumes about you.

It mattered a hell of a lot when apple had the higher res screen. You hypocrites with blind faith are hilarious.

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Bigger displays have to have more pixels, and the other smartphones have huge displays compared to the 4" iPhone. If you think 720p is so good, how about you view a 720p video projected onto a 16000x9000-inch canvas while sitting 5 feet away. It won't be pretty despite how great you seem to think 720p is.

1300 foot wide screen 5 feet away, I think it's wider than my field of view....nothing else you said makes any sense either.
 

DanteMann

macrumors 6502
May 23, 2011
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My god:

iPhone 5 has better build quality, better screen quality, great internals, great camera, and solid battery life.

Samsung has larger display, good internals, good camera, poor materials, bad design (you can't say the S3 has a better physical design). AND IT'S LACKIN WIRELESS CHARJING DUDEZ..

Get a clue. NFC has tiny real-world utility right now. The iPhone 5 is the better overall device, but many people will still be drawn by the huge screen of the GS3.

HTC One X has always been better than the GS3, IMO.

So let me get this straight. You think NFC is useless and don't care to have it, but you would want wireless charging. The iPhone has neither of these. To be honest, NFC is a bigger deal than wireless charging. We can already charge our phones, and wireless charging still requires something to be plugged in. And for the most part its a dock that will stay in one place as it would be too big to keep moving around. But a simple charger can be taken anywhere in the house/outside as it's much smaller than a dock. Yeah, NFC is definitely the better feature to have to future proof your phone.
That being said, where did you hear that GS3 doesn't have wireless charging? It does.
We all know how the blind loyalist love all the features the iPhone has, and hate or don't care for any feature it doesn't have. How you guys enjoying the new 4 inch sceen? Remember how you all felt 4 inch displays were stupid and too big? How are you guys liking the new thinness of the phone? Remember how you thought all those thin android phones were too thin? How do you guys like the new lightness of the iPhone? Remember how you blind followers called the Galaxy S2, S3 and all other high end Android phones too light and just didn't have the heft of a premium device?
You see, you blind followers are so predictable. Any feature Apple doesn't have is bad, and any feature it does have is amazing. Just come to the realization that the iPhone isn't the envy of users you think it is. Just enjoy your iphone for what it is, a nice little phone with a very elementary OS. And there's nothing wrong with that, because gosh darn it people love it.
 
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lavrishevo

macrumors 68000
Jan 9, 2007
1,864
204
NJ
I think the physical design (shape) is too much opinion to make one better then the other.

Overall I wish the iPhone 5 had:

2 antennas so you could do voice and data on Verizon's network.

NFC, plenty of places I go support it. McDonald's, Home Depot, CVS, Walgreens, etc

Just FYI. Neither Verizon nor AT&T are supporting Google Wallet. So yeah, phones with NFC on their network are greatly hindered by this. If anyone knows of an alternative I am all ears.
 

zbarvian

macrumors 68010
Jul 23, 2011
2,004
2
So let me get this straight. You think NFC is useless and don't care to have it, but you would want wireless charging. The iPhone has neither of these. To be honest, NFC is a bigger deal than wireless charging. We can already charge our phones, and wireless charging still requires something to be plugged in. And for the most part its a dock that will stay in one place as it would be too big to keep moving around. But a simple charger can be taken anywhere in the house/outside as it's much smaller than a dock. Yeah, NFC is definitely the better feature to have to future proof your phone.
That being said, where did you hear that GS3 doesn't have wireless charging? It does.
We all know how the blind loyalist love all the features the iPhone has, and hate or don't care for any feature it doesn't have. How you guys enjoying the new 4 inch sceen? Remember how you all felt 4 inch displays were stupid and too big? How are you guys liking the new thinness of the phone? Remember how you thought all those thin android phones were too thin? How do you guys like the new lightness of the iPhone? Remember how you blind followers called the Galaxy S2, S3 and all other high end Android phones too light and just didn't have the heft of a premium device?
You see, you blind followers are so predictable. Any feature Apple doesn't have is bad, and any feature it does have is amazing. Just come to the realization that the iPhone isn't the envy of users you think it is. Just enjoy your iphone for what it is, a nice little phone with a very elementary OS. And there's nothing wrong with that, because gosh darn it people love it.

Relax, jeez. The wireless charging bit was a joke. I honestly don't care about wireless charging or NFC right now. If they were both adopted and implemented on a big scale then sure, but neither are really useful at this point. And that last barrage of questions and accusation doesn't apply to me, go look elsewhere.
 

JonL12345

macrumors regular
May 21, 2012
175
23
I don't get this "wireless charging is useless" argument. "You still have to plug something in." Yes, once, rather than everyday! You don't have to be a genius to work that out. But I think its something Apple said at a conference and its been spread around like confetti. Don't people think anymore?

Over a 3 year lifespan, plug your phone in a thousand times or just the wireless base once.

What is easier than just dumping your phone on a pad?
 

zbarvian

macrumors 68010
Jul 23, 2011
2,004
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I don't get this "wireless charging is useless" argument. "You still have to plug something in." Yes, once, rather than everyday! You don't have to be a genius to work that out. But I think its something Apple said at a conference and its been spread around like confetti. Don't people think anymore?

Over a 3 year lifespan, plug your phone in a thousand times or just the wireless base once.

What is easier than just dumping your phone on a pad?

...

What if I need to charge somewhere else? That thing is way more big and clunky than a wired connector. Not to mention wireless charging doesn't charge as quick, and you can't really operate much of the phone when it's on a dock.
 

JonL12345

macrumors regular
May 21, 2012
175
23
Most people will charge just once a day. Put the charger there. Is that the best you can come up with?

Take the phone off the dock if you need to use it and then put it back after. Better than tethered.

These arguments are really desperate attempts to say that wireless charging is not better. It simply is and accept that. The iPhone will certainly get it one day. Only then perhaps will you see the light, because Apple tells you its good.
 

zbarvian

macrumors 68010
Jul 23, 2011
2,004
2
Most people will charge just once a day. Put the charger there. Is that the best you can come up with?

Take the phone off the dock if you need to use it and then put it back after. Better than tethered.

These arguments are really desperate attempts to say that wireless charging is not better. It simply is and accept that. The iPhone will certainly get it one day. Only then perhaps will you see the light, because Apple tells you its good.

I really don't think you understand wireless charging and/or charging habits. The only way wireless charging would be worthwile would be if it was adopted everywhere, and Nokia was trying for that to a small degree for the 920, but they don't have the clout like Apple does.
 

aznguyen316

macrumors 68010
Oct 1, 2008
2,001
1
Tampa, FL
Just FYI. Neither Verizon nor AT&T are supporting Google Wallet. So yeah, phones with NFC on their network are greatly hindered by this. If anyone knows of an alternative I am all ears.

Root (unlock bootloader if on VZW) flash new rom. Modify build.prop, flash google wallet. Set up wallet. Restore build.prop. Go wow people at the cash registers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1810040
Pretty much along these lines, the top part. I am on Jelly bean via CM10 (paranoid android).

I set mine up a month ago and got the free $10 from google (they no longer offer this) and have used it a couple times now, twice at a CVS which both times the cashiers were pretty funny - "wow I saw that in an episode of fringe, literally last night" and another time an the airport at the water/pop vending machine where they had the mastercard paypass thing.

No I don't use NFC everyday but it's really nice to have and I can see its uses - forgot your wallet somewhere but have phone..I've done this before. Kinda like find my iPhone, don't use it much but when you need it, it's invaluable.

Also voice & data simultaneously is cool, though I don't call often, but I have wanted to send stuff while on the phone.
 

JonL12345

macrumors regular
May 21, 2012
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I notice you have ignored all my points. How convenient!

What specifically don't I understand about wireless charging and habits that you seem to?
 

zbarvian

macrumors 68010
Jul 23, 2011
2,004
2
I notice you have ignored all my points. How convenient!

What specifically don't I understand about wireless charging and habits that you seem to?

Because wired connection is significantly faster than wireless, the dock is bigger and less portable, I can use both hands (typing) and talk on the phone without interrupting the charging. Wireless charging isn't better in any way besides the "cool" and minor convenience aspect. If it was in widespread use, then sure, but it's not.
 

JonL12345

macrumors regular
May 21, 2012
175
23
Lets be clear, some people may use it, some won't. I for one will use it. I work for myself and to have my phone on a wireless dock or pad or however they do it will be very convenient. There will be many people who recharge their phone once per day, maybe at night. To have a dock next to your bedside can be very handy for those people.

To suggest a dock has to be portable is silly. If you need to charge it away from your dock then use a cable. It is irrelevant if something is widespread or not. How on earth does that help? I really don't think you have thought this through.

One thing is for sure, it is better to have the option to use wireless charging than not.
 
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