Yosemite on non-retina Macs?

[nikicampos]

For me, It's hard to undo years of being familiar with the way a certain thing looks, especially when I still frequently go back to my production machine with Mavericks on it. An empty wi-fi bar of signal strength on Mavericks is "bolder" than a full bar on Yosemite.

For example: Image has Yosemite up top with full signal strength, Mavericks below with wi-fi on, but not connected to a network. Translucent menu bar is enabled on both.

Could you post the Yosemite one with wi-fi on but not connected to a network against the Mavericks one.

 

[machpanic]

For me, It's hard to undo years of being familiar with the way a certain thing looks, especially when I still frequently go back to my production machine with Mavericks on it.

Yes, this is my experience as well. Some things in Yosemite feel weird to me. On the other hand when I go back to Mavericks it looks a bit dated in comparison so I'm not happy in either of them

An empty wi-fi bar of signal strength on Mavericks is "bolder" than a full bar on Yosemite. For example: Image has Yosemite up top with full signal strength, Mavericks below with wi-fi on, but not connected to a network. Translucent menu bar is enabled on both.

I think they will fix this in some way before GM.

 

[theonekcrow]

I'm running it on a Late 2012 Mac mini hooked up to a 24" VGA monitor, and it still looks pretty good.

 

[The19th]

Could you post the Yosemite one with wi-fi on but not connected to a network against the Mavericks one.

Yosemite top, wi-fi on, not connected
Mavericks below, wi-fi on, not connected

 

[MartinAppleGuy]

late 2012 21.5" imac. fonts are really disturbing; specially on dark mode.

I just put that in full screen on my 21.5" iMac. All the fonts on both the webpage and the settings app look fine. I think Font Smoothing just is not enabled for dark mode yet.

 

[The19th]

Don't get me wrong, I think Yosemite looks great! It's just difficult to go back and forth between Yosemite and Mavericks during this pre-release period.

For example, I'm working on Mavericks on my production iMac and I see I have signal strength, then later I'm on Yosemite on my Air at the coffee shop and I have to frequently check to make sure I'm connected to the public wi-fi.

 

[MartinAppleGuy]

Apple used a 27" iMac to showcase Yosemite so that can't be "killing off" non-retina devices.

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It's looked very good on my mid 2011 iMac so far except the drop down menus in Dark Mode look mushy.

When I full screen all of these screenshots to my iMac, they look great part from Dark Mode dropdowns.

 

[benji888]

Only thing I don't like so far...when app is not in foreground, such as disk utility, the text is grayed out so much, hard to read, something that's probably fine on retina displays, but too light for non-retina.

 

[nikicampos]

Yosemite top, wi-fi on, not connected
Mavericks below, wi-fi on, not connected

Well, I could see the confusion if you're going back and forward between Yosemite and Mavericks, but that's not a fault on Yosemite, after a few hours used to Yosemite you can tell the difference if you have a connection or not.

Once all your Macs are running Yosemite I see no problem with this.

 

[The19th]

Well, I could see the confusion if you're going back and forward between Yosemite and Mavericks, but that's not a fault on Yosemite, after a few hours used to Yosemite you can tell the difference if you have a connection or not.

Once all your Macs are running Yosemite I see no problem with this.

Been running public betas since 10.0 and Mac OS since System 6, I'm used to change. I expect I wouldn't have much of an issue adjusting if I was not constantly going back and forth. I was just trying to demonstrate what chrf097 was mentioning earlier:

I have no idea how any of you are missing the WiFi icon.

I'm on a Late 2011 MBP and the Wi-Fi icon is very visible and easy to see.

 

[KUguardgrl13]

Fonts in MS Word 2008 look a bit pixely, but the windows and menus look better than Mavericks. Everything else looks alright.

 

[0000757]

For me, It's hard to undo years of being familiar with the way a certain thing looks, especially when I still frequently go back to my production machine with Mavericks on it. An empty wi-fi bar of signal strength on Mavericks is "bolder" than a full bar on Yosemite.

For example: Image has Yosemite up top with full signal strength, Mavericks below with wi-fi on, but not connected to a network. Translucent menu bar is enabled on both.

There's still a noticeable color difference between on and off though.

 

[citivolus]

anyone notice any changes in this regard with the latest beta update?

 

[MCAsan]

I loaded it on some 2010 Macbook 7,1 laptops. It ran as well on them as it does on a rMBP. If you have a problem, likely it is Yosemite beta....not the machine you are running it on.

 

[azentropy]

Still not real happy with the way certain things look on non-retina displays. The fonts in many places are just too thin and jaggy.

 

[coldjeanzzz]

Still not real happy with the way certain things look on non-retina displays. The fonts in many places are just too thin and jaggy.

Just gonna have to accept it. At this point it's clear to me it's not something Apple wants to or is able to fix. They chose to use a font that gave retina users the benefit at the expense of non-retina users.

 

[azentropy]

Just gonna have to accept it. At this point it's clear to me it's not something Apple wants to or is able to fix. They chose to use a font that gave retina users the benefit at the expense of non-retina users.

Which I could understand if there was a retina iMac or retina 27" Apple display option. But unless we are in for a surprise here in the next couple of months, it isn't an option.

 

[puelocesar]

How does it look? I have the fear it will look awfully pixelated on my 27" iMac because of all the thin lines.

Looks terrible on my late 2009 Macbook.

Font's are terribly rendered and round corners have ugly artifacts. Installing a patch to change Helvetica to Lucida Grande somehow made it less worse, but it's still bad, in comparison with Mavericks.

 

[saberahul]

Looks terrible on my late 2009 Macbook.

Font's are terribly rendered and round corners have ugly artifacts. Installing a patch to change Helvetica to Lucida Grande somehow made it less worse, but it's still bad, in comparison with Mavericks.

Looks pretty decent on my 2011 MBP. I barely notice the pixelation.

 

[puelocesar]

Looks pretty decent on my 2011 MBP. I barely notice the pixelation.

Hi, do your macbook use a NVidia card? I'm starting to think its a driver issue, and i'm starting to worry that Apple wont provide a fix because its a very old card

 

[Anitramane]

Only thing I don't like so far...when app is not in foreground, such as disk utility, the text is grayed out so much, hard to read, something that's probably fine on retina displays, but too light for non-retina.

For me the whiteness of everything will make me keep mavericks untill there is a perfectly working systemwide dark mode. It just strains my eyes looking at it.