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YouTube now has a list of Signature Devices that offer the ‘best’ video experience
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Hm. I've been wondering abut tat. That's why my original post was asking if the iPhone still forces automatic quality, because I remember it used to and wonder if it still does. That'd be nice if it doesn't do that anymore.
Guess you didn’t turn on Samsung’s video enhancer feature...would murder the iPhone X in brightness and clarity......
Used the video entrancer yesterday at a Best Buy and hated it because uses the Adaptive Display mode which is only really useful for extremely high levels of ambient brightness but not so much for indoor use. Colors are way too saturated.
Now I did try it yesterday with auto brightness on in cinema mode and it kicked up the brightness to a very high level and the detail was pretty amazing. Much brighter than when I tried it at AT&T.
But it doesn’t get that much brighter than the iPhone X and that’s ONLY under high ambient light. With no auto brightness enabled it’s only pushing 370 nits and that’s why my iPhone X murdered the Note 9. Just check DisplayMate for those numbers.
But I will admit after using it at Best Buy and seeing that HDR YouTube video up against my iPhone X that the Note 9 has the best AMOLED panel on a phone. But you have to have auto brightness enabled and have some high ambient light kick those levels up to reach the iPhone X’s brightness which bothers me.
Detail is slightly in favor of the Note 9 at 1440P which makes sense as it’s a higher pixel density and a bigger canvas to show that resolution on. iPhone X at 1080P has a little less detail but looks super sharp with showing 16:9 content in a 5” diagonal.
Excited for the X Plus but am disappointed in the resolution they are going for. Won’t even be able to watch videos at 1440P!
I'm not sure which phone I enjoy watching YouTube vids on the most, the Note 8 or the S8+ but I think the Note 8 to me has the slight lead due to it's slightly bigger screen. I've been watching videos on YouTube using one of these phones while exercising every morning. My T-Mobile plan includes HD video streaming so it makes it even more better.
I don't even think of reaching for my 7+ or 8+ to watch videos on.
I don't even think of reaching for my 7+ or 8+ to watch videos on.
Noticed something else today while trying the Note 9. Yes I’m obsessed with this stuff haha.
Whenever I watched an HDR YouTube video the brightness levels would surge up acting like high ambient light was on it. But when watching a non HDR video the brightness was then capped at 370 nits and the iPhone X can still hit 700 nits. As a result the iPhone X looked quite a bit better for all non HDR displays.
And I can always select the video quality over LTE now with ATT.
Anybody know why my Tab S4 can’t play HDR videos on YouTube? Is this a Snapdragon 835 issue?
Whenever I watched an HDR YouTube video the brightness levels would surge up acting like high ambient light was on it. But when watching a non HDR video the brightness was then capped at 370 nits and the iPhone X can still hit 700 nits. As a result the iPhone X looked quite a bit better for all non HDR displays.
And I can always select the video quality over LTE now with ATT.
Anybody know why my Tab S4 can’t play HDR videos on YouTube? Is this a Snapdragon 835 issue?
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Well display mate rates the Note 9 as having a better display than the iPhone X. Never used auto brightness on my S9 plus or X and the S9 plus had a better screen.
Better in what way? Look at the numbers. We’re talking imperceptible differences between the X, Galaxy S9, and Note 9.
The way I use my phone, the X has the better display for me personally because I have access to higher brightness levels at any time. Simple as that.
It’s called business priorities. Not punishment as such. Google doesn’t really need to punish Apple. They don’t really compete.
To be honest you can add the Samsung S7 and S6 to that list. I have a three years S6 Edge Plus I no longer use and the image quality beats my Pixel 2 and iPad Pro.
So, when Apple switches to Google search it's Google that needs Apple advertising dollars but when Apple is lacking VP9 codec for YouTube which also has advertising then it's Google punishing Apple, priorities or some other BS? Gotta make up their mind.
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AMOLED is certainly better for media consumption but that's not a criteria for YouTube Signature Devices.
https://devicereport.youtube.com
- 360° video
- DRM performance
- High frame rate
- 4K decoding
- High dynamic range
- Next-generation codecs
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So, when Apple switches to Google search it's Google that needs Apple advertising dollars but when Apple is lacking VP9 codec for YouTube which also has advertising then it's Google punishing Apple, priorities or some other BS? Gotta make up their mind.
Google makes more money from Apple devices. There was a report a few years ago, not sure if it has changed since then.
https://appleinsider.com/articles/1..._mobile_revenue_from_ios_just_20_from_android
We shouldn’t forget the business objectives of these 2 companies are completely different. Apple is a hardware company, their main source of income is from selling their devices. Google is a software company, they make money by using user data. It’s doesn’t matter if it’s an iOS or an Android device as long as people use google services.
And this is why Google invests in iOS.
https://www.theverge.com/2016/7/8/1...-android-motion-stills-gboard-search-hangouts
So, when Apple switches to Google search it's Google that needs Apple advertising dollars but when Apple is lacking VP9 codec for YouTube which also has advertising then it's Google punishing Apple, priorities or some other BS? Gotta make up their mind.
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AMOLED is certainly better for media consumption but that's not a criteria for YouTube Signature Devices.
https://devicereport.youtube.com
- 360° video
- DRM performance
- High frame rate
- 4K decoding
- High dynamic range
- Next-generation codecs
I bet the criteria will be changed once Samsung or Apple release a phone that can actually display 4k video.
Do you know the definition of 'few' is one, two or three? That article is from 2012 for data from 2011. Plus, it's not possible for a minority iOS marketshare to generate more Google services traffic especially on a 3.5" display of that era unless you think they had to rewatch the same content multiple (3x to 4x) times more on such a tiny display. And, Google apps aren't better on iOS for the basic reason that you can't make them default apps like Google Maps/Waze/Assistant, Chrome on iOS still uses the inferior Apple Webkit engine vs Google's Blink engine (http://html5test.com/results/desktop.html), YouTube doesn't list any iOS Signature Devices (https://devicereport.youtube.com/), etc.
I know it’s an old article but even then Android had the major market share. Revenue is not directly proportionate to market share of a platform. This has been proven many times that Android devices don’t get used as much as iOS devices by the users regularly. Android user base is very different to the iOS user base. People don’t use / buy services on Android as much as people do on iOS.
Not being able to make an app OS default doesn’t define the quality. What are you even talking about?!
Also, chrome using WebKit is no different to any other browser on iOS. Are you saying every browser is inferior on iOS?!
Ps. WebKit was open sourced by Apple and Google “chose” to use it. AND blink is based on WebKit as well.
Is it a surprise seeing YouTube is actually owned by Google?! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
An alternative viewpoint to what you see -
I didn't think browsers on iOS were allowed to use any frameworks other than webkit?
Yes, when I went to Best Buy and watched a few HDR YouTube videos the Note 9 I used got much brighter and looked great. But any other YouTube video not in HDR was extremely dim (374 nits) and not as impressive as the X. (700 nits)
There is an enhanced video mode in Galaxy. If you on it, it will bump the brightness and contrast up when playing video.
But that uses Adapative mode which I won’t use for videos. I want accurate colors.
It’s all down to the VP9 codec.
Personally I could not care less, I’m too old to watch YouTube. And going by the reaction of my children, quality is the last thing they’d be concerned about.
Personally I could not care less, I’m too old to watch YouTube. And going by the reaction of my children, quality is the last thing they’d be concerned about.