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I understand your reasoning man, but that's RIAA math. That assumes everyone who has unlocked an iPhone would have given in and switched to AT&T/O2/etc if it weren't for the ability to unlock.
Let's say there are 1 million unlocked iPhones floating about. I don't think there is a fraction of those people who would have subscribed to AT&T etc just to use the iPhone but I will HUMOR you and just throw out 100,000 to be generous. So let's say that's 100,000 x $240 lost = $24million. That's alot of change yeah. But how about those other 900,000 ? That's $80 x 900,000 = $72million of income extra for Apple it would not have HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR THE HACKERS TO UNLOCK.
And again, I think I'm being generous saying there are even 100,000 out there who didn't switch because an unlock became available.


I see your point that we can't automatically assume that the 1/3 of the phones out there would've been purchased without the unlocks available.

But I think Apple is trying to keep the iPhone from being a commodity by keeping it limited to a few select carriers (looks like only one carrier per country) while at the same time maximizing profits. Look at how many people have been forced to switch to AT&T just because they wanted the hottest phone around. If iPhone were as ubiquitous as the Blackberry, I don't think ANY company would pay Apple $240 per 2 year contract because then the company wouldn't have a handset advantage over the other companies.

Companies are willing to pay that extra $240 (or whatever they pay over there in Europe) to Apple because they know they can get switchers then get you hook, line and sinker with other fees such as data plans, texting, international texting fees, going over your minutes fees, etc...

Does Apple mind hackers cracking the iphone? Probably. Apple wants to protect the exclusivity they've promised to their partners. But I bet when they've made enough profit to get back all the R&D spent in developing the 1st gen iPhone they're not gonna mind as much. I bet after their exclusive 5 year deal with AT&T (and others around the workd), Apple will UNLEASH the iPhone and iPhone Nano or what other spin off product they make and they're not going to be so concerned with thwarting hackers.

Anyway, back to ZiPhone.

ZiPhone command line interface rocks. I haven't had problems with it. 2.0 just doesn't work with my 1.1.2 OTB, week 50. I'm using Vista.

This will do until SDK comes out and official Apps are released.
 
I'm the guinea pig!

I jailbreaked-activated-unlocked my 1.1.3 OOT 16GByte iPhone using ZiPhone 1.0. When i saw, that the modem fw was downgraded to 04.02.13_G, i decided to downgrade the BL.

Using ./ziphone -v -b on a Mac the bootloader was downgraded, the modem fw upgraded to 04.03.13_G and unlocked within 2 minutes.

I'm alwaysw adding the -v (verbose) option when using ZiPhone as it seems as if it is fixing the apple-logo problem (probably a race condition caused by wrong timing).

cu/

Sergeij
 
Why anyone would want to downgrade thier bootloader to 3.9 now is beyond me!!

4.6 is being cracked wide open as I write this... give it a few days and there will be a custom bootloader.

Sit tight, and wait for the magic custom BL!

P.S. - Hackint0sh has been down for AGES... wonder what's going on there?
 
new to iPhone

Hi, I just bought my new 16gb and I want to start using it but I am concerned about the posts and using Ziphone so I apprecaite some help.

If I use Ziphone to Unlock/Activate/Jailbreak will that downgrade BL to 3.9 vs the 4.6 that comes with it. Which one exactly will downgrade the BL, is it the unlocking, activation or jailbreaking

If its unlocking, can I get Turbo SIM or other method to unlock that wont mess with the BL version. If no hardware unlock exist, what is the best way to unlock, activate and jailbreak without messing iwth BL

Thanks
 
I've thought a fair bit about this discussion and I'm staying with 4.6BL. I would like to just go back to 1.1.2 which is really where I should have stayed. I know the unlock in Ziphone for 4.6 will essentially downgrade the baseband, so theoretically I was thinking the following download procedure is all I would need to do:

- Unlock with Ziphone (downgrades my baseband)
- Restore to 1.1.2 in iTunes

Would that be pretty much it. I _know_ that there are many downgrade tutorials about, but I want to see if this is a quicker way. Or would I really need to restore to 1.1.1 and then follow the normal process back up to 1.1.2? Actually, even if I had to move to 1.1.2 via 1.1.1 I think it would just go:

- Unlock with Ziphone (downgrades my baseband)
- Restore to 1.1.1 in iTunes
- Restore to 1.1.2 in iTunes
- Jailbreak 1.1.2 with Ziphone.

Anyone who has actually downgraded with one of the above procedures care to comment (remember I am 4.6 not 3.9)?
 
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