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decafjava

macrumors 603
Feb 7, 2011
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Agreed, itunes has gotten bloated and the features that have been added do not increase the functionality (I'm looking at you Ping). Yet while it may be bloated, I've not really found another product that does what it does so well.

I was spoiled with the itunes/iPhone integration, when I moved to an android device, I so how meager the offerings were for a mechanism to help sync my music

Agree here. I have two words for what I like about itunes: smart playlists. Even currently semi-broken for ios devices it's still better than what most other software I know about can do.
 

KingCrimson

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Mar 12, 2011
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Disagree, not everyone wants a smartphone. I still see plenty of folks with ipods and plain old dumbphones, or even smartphones like BBs or even an android here and there. A friend of mine in the States has a 6g nano for sports for example but uses a Droid X as her smartphone.

that's exactly what I do. I have an iPod Nano 6G for gym/walking. An iPod Touch for car/work and a 6yo feature phone which costs me almost nothing!
 

Rodimus Prime

macrumors G4
Oct 9, 2006
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Zune is over and done with. It's defunct. Why even make the comparison?
umm LTD this has nothing to do with Zune hardware.

This is about software side on the computer and Zune software and the Zune system is not going anywhere for a while. Zune is on the 360 computer and WP7. The moved Zune system over to other things and Zune is more of a music system now.

As for Zune software I find it to be a lot lighter than iTunes just it is very different so I never really got into it.
 

*LTD*

macrumors G4
Feb 5, 2009
10,703
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Canada
Source?

Before you do, might want to spend a little time reading this statement.

I did.

Here's what it said:

"Zune is still relevant! We swear! Honest! Oh come on! Why doesn't anyone believe us?!"

There's only so many times MS can flog a dead horse before there's just nothing left.

The last thing I believe is MS' own statements about anything Zune.
 

thejadedmonkey

macrumors G3
May 28, 2005
9,240
3,497
Pennsylvania
I absolutely love the Zune software. It's like Microsoft took what was best in iTunes, added some social aspects, created a beautiful now-playing screen that makes me not want to puke, and made it start up in shorter than 14 bounces.

Sync with WP7 is amazing, as you don't even need the phone to mark media to sync, and it will just sync next time you connect.

Probably the best part though, is that Zune will watch your folders and automatically add any new music that you download. So I can download a sample mp3 from a music blog, open Zune, and it will automatically add it to my media library.

It just works™
 

Melrose

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Dec 12, 2007
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I'd not get into the device support part, because I don't own a Zune so I don't know how it syncs with the software so I'll just discuss the interface for music library. I have to say that the interface is beautiful with the Metro UI, elements that fade in/out, the auto-collage of album art, the responsiveness. Just as a music manager, Zune is WAY better then iTunes. It just looks hip, cool, artistic. Wasn't Apple supposed to be that?

I love the way the Zune software looks, I really do. I tried to use it while back though and couldn't get how it worked... I mean, I understood what to do, I just didn't like it. Looks great, goes where no music software has gone before, stays consistent with the new Microsoft look (which is very nice), but for functionality I still much, much prefer Apple.

We're at the point of diminishing returns for the iPod family and its competitors. It makes little sense to pour more R&D money into a product that is at the end of its life cycle.

true. I have an iPod Classic that (literally) holds every songs I have, and I have all my tops albums/songs on my iPhone - which is enough for quick trips or short commutes but for longer stays away I don't mind packing both for the extra options, music wise.
 

wass0035

macrumors newbie
Aug 7, 2011
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Personally I enjoy the Zune software over iTunes. ITunes seems to always miss album artwork, when I transfered my iTunes library to Zune it matched everything in the library to artwork. However the Wp7 connector that they released is a joke in that all it does is allow you to sync your iTunes library with your phone. Any and all Zune pass content is unrecognized by iTunes. I really wish they would create a full fledged Zune media center for OSX.

I own a Zune hd, a Samsung Focus, and have a Macbook pro. I find the Zune hd the greatest little music device in the world. It is small, well built, the UI is good, and all of its efforts are put towards entertainment, every app is high quality and free.

The Focus, love the phone 7 UI (it does need to mature a bit, missing some great features, have high hopes mango will fill these gaps), the phone itself somewhat makes me regret not getting the iPhone. It just has that light plastic feel, feels disposable.
 

ChazUK

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Feb 3, 2008
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It didn't take me long while owning a WP7 phone before I fell in love with the Zune software and Zune Pass.

Wifi sync is great when the phone is on charge in the bedroom and I want to whack some odd songs onto it. Conversion options when syncing are nice and quite powerful. The ability to tag albums and pull extra metadata info based in album names and artist info is nice too, I've tidied up the tags on quite a few albums with this feature.

The biggest difference to me compared to iTunes on Windows 7 x64 is performance. iTunes takes (seemingly) an age to load compared to the Zune application.

The only big issue I had was the Zune software automatically changing the id3 tags of my iTunes library but after disabling the metadata auto update option, all is well, now I'm in full control.

The Zune software is another thing that Microsoft have got right. It's a pity it doesn't sync with more media players. Having to use WMP & Zune for different devices does not make sense to me!
 

seashellz

macrumors 6502
Nov 18, 2004
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the strange thing is that in my last 3 years of college, going to parties raves, in public-I havent seen a one of them-nor do most people know they even exist
how long before MS pull the plug completely? I dont even see ads

one local radio station had a first five callers 'name this song' contest and the prize was one of five Zunes and just one person called to claim one
 

Rodimus Prime

macrumors G4
Oct 9, 2006
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4
the strange thing is that in my last 3 years of college, going to parties raves, in public-I havent seen a one of them-nor do most people know they even exist
how long before MS pull the plug completely? I dont even see ads

one local radio station had a first five callers 'name this song' contest and the prize was one of five Zunes and just one person called to claim one

Did you even read the thread at all. This entire tread is about software not hardware.
 

boss.king

macrumors 603
Apr 8, 2009
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I've never used Zune software but I hear good things about it. I'm really hoping Apple makes iTunes lighter (in terms of requirements) and darker (in terms of visual style/theme).
 

laserfox

macrumors 6502
Jan 21, 2008
296
0
new york
I recently bought a new laptop and wp7 phone so I didn't even bother to put iTunes on it and gave away my ipod touch. I have never been happier. Like other posters said I love how zune uses the librabries features of Windows 7 so any changes made outside of zune like adding music or photos to a folder is automatically reflcted in Zune and synced to wp7.

I also much prefer the interface to iTunes. Its just much nicer looking and as you can see metro/tile based as wp7, and the upcoming windows 8 :D

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*LTD*

macrumors G4
Feb 5, 2009
10,703
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Canada
I recently bought a new laptop and wp7 phone so I didn't even bother to put iTunes on it and gave away my ipod touch. I have never been happier. Like other posters said I love how zune uses the librabries features of Windows 7 so any changes made outside of zune like adding music or photos to a folder is automatically reflcted in Zune and synced to wp7.

I also much prefer the interface to iTunes. Its just much nicer looking and as you can see metro/tile based as wp7, and the upcoming windows 8 :D

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No offense, but that looks horrible. I know it might boil down to a matter of taste, but let's call a spade a spade: MS is basing the Windows 8 UI on an interface that is a total market failure, and which currently is doing absolutely nothing to help pitifully low WP7 sales.

Anything and everything Zune and Zune-related has not translated into anything meaningful for MS - either in terms of share or in terms of profit.
 
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Consultant

macrumors G5
Jun 27, 2007
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I find iTunes the most unintuitive, confusing and bloated program ever. Certainly not easy to use, I feel the current Windows Media Player is far simpler.

iTunes needs an overhaul. A redesign. A rethinking. Some useless features such as Ping cut out of it. Hell, I'd even scrap the iTunes store, movies, iOS device syncing and much more and put them features into other/separate, more suited apps and keep iTunes what it simply should just be: a music player and library.

Let's see, the main navigation elements of iTunes contain:

Library
Store
Playlists

That is SOOOOOOOOO confusing. :rolleyes:

What do you want? Click START to shut down?

I did.

Here's what it said:

"Zune is still relevant! We swear! Honest! Oh come on! Why doesn't anyone believe us?!"

There's only so many times MS can flog a dead horse before there's just nothing left.

The last thing I believe is MS' own statements about anything Zune.

Microsoft promoted Windows Phone 7 KIN before pulling the plug too (and then put it back on life support).

It seems that the Zune PR money is still flowing to some folks.
 
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ChazUK

macrumors 603
Feb 3, 2008
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Essex (UK)
What do you want? Click START to shut down?

Start internet explorer. Start outlook. Start the shut-down process, makes sense in that line of thinking..

The last Windows OS with an actual "start" button was XP. It's been a displayed as a Windows orb since Vista. Stuck in the past?

Out of interest, does clicking on an Apple to shut down make more sense?
 

laserfox

macrumors 6502
Jan 21, 2008
296
0
new york
No offense, but that looks horrible. I know it might boil down to a matter of taste, but let's call a spade a spade: MS is basing the Windows 8 UI on an interface that is a total market failure, and which currently is doing absolutely nothing to help pitifully low WP7 sales.
Anything and everything Zune and Zune-related has not translated into anything meaningful for MS - either in terms of share or in terms of profit.


Well Metro UI was first introduced in Windows Media Center which still remains one of the best in its category and I wouldn't call that a market faulure. Sure Zune didn't take off but you cant fault MS for taking the best features of Zune and creating a cohesive UI across its products. You may think WP7 is a failure, but it still doesn't mean it wouldn't succeed in the coming months.

I suppose it is your personal opinion but who knows even you might be surprised at the outcome of Windows 8, Windows Phone 8 and Xbox ecosystem.

microsoft3screensui.jpg
 
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