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StellarVixen

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Windows is by far MUCH worse. There are computers that absolutely cannot upgrade to the latest big update, but will be out of support just after 2 years.

Please, please...that is just non sense. I have never been fan of Windoze, and never will be, judging from the present state of things, but the 10 literally is usable on 7-8 years old Intel Atom netbook. And those Atom netbooks were horrible even when they were new. It works on ancient machines, and is usable, by usable I mean it is not painfully slow and such.
 

Ludacrisvp

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The 2006 iMac next to me is booted into Windows 10 version 1809. The latest Mac OS that supported it is 10.7.5 Lion (or 10.8.5 Mountain Lion if you want to count unofficial methods). Forget five-year-old hardware, let's talk about a five year difference in the age of the OS.

I'm no fan of Microsoft. However, it's clear this five year difference is partly due to planned obsolescence, and Microsoft has no incentive to use it on this particular hardware, while Apple does.
How well does it run though?
I thought windows 10 needed westmere based processor or newer officially to run properly due to hyper-V being part of the OS which needs VTX cpu instruction. Anything less meant handicapped performance.
 

eobet

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Not sure this is the correct thread to ask, but I’ve seen mention that sidecar doesn’t work on the 6,1 Mac Pros. Can someone please clarify this?
 

tsialex

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Not sure this is the correct thread to ask, but I’ve seen mention that sidecar doesn’t work on the 6,1 Mac Pros. Can someone please clarify this?
MP6,1 Xeons don't have the required QuickSync hardware HEIVC encode/decode, they don't even have QuickSync.

Support for Sidecar start with Skylake generation processors, like MacBook Pro 2016, MP6,1 Xeons are Ivy Bridge.
 

goMac

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The 2006 iMac next to me is booted into Windows 10 version 1809. The latest Mac OS that supported it is 10.7.5 Lion (or 10.8.5 Mountain Lion if you want to count unofficial methods). Forget five-year-old hardware, let's talk about a five year difference in the age of the OS.

I'm no fan of Microsoft. However, it's clear this five year difference is partly due to planned obsolescence, and Microsoft has no incentive to use it on this particular hardware, while Apple does.

Edit: This 6,1 iMac is still usable for certain tasks, like watching 1080p video. I still use it every day. If it had been supported even just to El Capitan (2006-2016, that's ten years, plus two more of security updates), it'd be so much more tolerable on MacOS. This is why I call it planned obsolescence - Mountain Lion is obsolete, but the hardware is not. Even getting a current browser is a challenge on ML.

It’s a tough call.

There certainly are features of that iMac that Apple is no longer supporting. It’s not random. The GPU, networking, and possibly the processor are all unsupported.

Windows gets around that by pushing responsibility for the drivers onto others. Microsoft doesn’t have to decide if it’s still worth supporting your machine because they never wrote the drivers to your machine to begin with.

Planned obsolescence seems like a stretch to me. It’s more a result of Apple taking on the burden of supporting your Mac entirely themselves, while Microsoft delegates.
 

redheeler

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It’s a tough call.

There certainly are features of that iMac that Apple is no longer supporting. It’s not random. The GPU, networking, and possibly the processor are all unsupported.

Windows gets around that by pushing responsibility for the drivers onto others. Microsoft doesn’t have to decide if it’s still worth supporting your machine because they never wrote the drivers to your machine to begin with.

Planned obsolescence seems like a stretch to me. It’s more a result of Apple taking on the burden of supporting your Mac entirely themselves, while Microsoft delegates.
Notice I said I would've been alright with support stoppage at El Capitan. I understand Apple has more of a burden than Microsoft when it comes to compiling drivers and making sure they work on a newer version of MacOS. I would not expect Mojave or Catalina to work on hardware that is over ten years old like this iMac.

That doesn't, however, excuse a Mac with 12 cores, 32 GB RAM, SSD, and a modern AMD GPU being deemed obsolete because it is seven years old and Apple decides not to compile drivers. And Lion as a cutoff for this iMac + the 2006/2007 Mac Pro was way too early as well, the 2007 Mac Pro only ended up receiving five years of support.

This is when it starts to turn into planned obsolescence, IMHO. Now the 5,1 Mac Pro is being given similar treatment at seven years that the 2,1 was given at five. In reality it should be given at least nine years of support, from 2012 onward.
 
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Planned obsolescence seems like a stretch to me. It’s more a result of Apple taking on the burden of supporting your Mac entirely themselves, while Microsoft delegates.

Technically, I think "planned obsolescence" is the correct phrase. Apple has a plan for how long they support hardware before it becomes obsolete. It will continue to work after that, but Apple will not support it.

Compare that to the auto industry. On older cars the odometer only went to 99,999 because the manufacturer assumed the car wouldn't last that long. They also weren't trying to build a car that would last longer. To me, that seems different from Apple because Apple didn't design a computer that would die (e.g. melt, blow capacitors, etc) after a relatively short amount of time. They just decide it isn't worth the effort to keep writing software after N number of years.

I'd also like to see Apple's numbers for how long hardware is typically used. If they know that 95% of all Macs sold in year 20XX are not used after 5 years, then it makes a lot more sense to stop writing software for hardware people aren't using.

But Apple doesn't really share that number and MacRumors forum members aren't a great audience to Poll because we probably aren't the typical Apple Customer - especially in the MacPro section :)
 
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Yeah not surprising considering Intel ended support for the CPUs and we have the 5,1’s true successor now. I’m glad my 2012 MBP will get the new OS.

Thats to say if Apple will support it after Catalina, if not.. there is always Linux, and many other distros.
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I'm sure there will be some hack or workaround for those interested, but this is the end of OFFICIAL latest Apple OS support for MP5,1. Likely can get regular security style updates through 2021 or 2022 if you choose not to hack machine ID.

Nothing is beatable. If that is a plist file and it can be modified, then one can put 5,1 in the supported machines portion. Just a thought, though Dosdude's Catalina patcher is out.
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Yes, it surely is!

But reading all this gets me the feeling that my 5,1 will immediately stop working, just because it isn't supported by the latest OS. I hope it will not! Because, for the NV-reason not even in the first place, i am happily using HS with not really missing anything. So i know a nice place where Apple can put their Catalina.

Dude, don't worry.. the 5,1 will still work just fine.. sad to say that my G5 Quad exploded today because it doesn't get love from Apple anymore and because its a PowerPC.. No, just kidding ! The G5 is running Ubuntu as a server and my 5,1 is running as my normal computer. If the computer does what u need it to, then no need to complain or panic. Many agree with this statement: If you ask about the 2019-2020 Mac Pro and complain about the price, the machine is not for you. However, many of us want to have the new mac pro, but the price is really high.
 
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Is this really such a big deal?
Yeah, I know, I love my cMP - and just spent $500 upgrading it - but I fully expect it to be good to go for another 3 or 4 years, which is fine by me.

If this cheese grating 5.1 beast is still kicking, 13 years after birth, that's pretty damn good.
Heck, if the hardware doesn't fail, it could still be useful 5 or 6 years from now.
That's unprecedented - that a decade old computer can *still* hold it's own today and will probably do so for a few more years yet. It's a celebration of the finest in computer design, a game changer, an inspiration that fired up the windows PC world to compete. I could be wrong and waxing lyrical here, but before the 5.1, windows PC's didn't have anywhere near the finesse and accessibility of upgrades the cMP had - now, sure, they are kicking some serious butt all over the place. Even so, the simplicity and beauty of that heavy heavy aluminium case with its gloriously perfect innards is still to be reckoned with.

I always knew time would be limited to have such a powerful machine for so cheap - and it's a very sad state of affairs that upgradability for Macs has become, each passing year, such a ****-show, whilst PC's continue to be so incredibly versatile.

I always said - and I stand by it - I'll go hackintosh the moment my 5.1 bites the dust.

For the record, I've never had PC so old and yet so powerful as the Cheese Grating almighty 5.1 - Apple's finest moment.
As for other Macs, my work provided macbook pro (2018 model) is ... meh. It's got the OS, but that's about it. There's virtually no upgrading it - it's a monument to a throw-away society - faster, smaller, lighter - obsolete by design just a few years after inception. I'd never pony up the cash to buy one, not in a million years. I wouldn't even buy it second hand years from now. 2015 was the last decent macbook pro made, 2013 the last decent iMac made (in terms of upgradability), 2012 was the last decent (affordable) mac pro made. Such is life.

What has this to do with the OP? F%£$d if I know, just spewing out some 5 h1t for the fun and giggles...
 
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RAMtheSSD

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There are some oddities here that someone older (like me LOL!!) finds glaring because "the more things change, the more they stay the same" and "everything old is new again".

First, right out of the box, all our cMPs were different (for instance, they did not have a camera out of the box and did not work with the external iSight camera before that low res camera vanished into history --((AFAIK))) than the iMacs and whatever laptop the reader would like; it was, even back to the first PowerMacs, as if Jobs had designed the toasters and Woz had designed a refrigerator. You can customize a refrigerator a great deal and it is great at managing temperature; it even has two "processors!" In a very real sense, all of us cMP people are different because we want to know things about --probably, almost anything-- something that probably exists far beyond most people's interests or concerns. This is not some arrogant pronouncement, a lifetime is finite and some people, just as they do with cars, medical, or dental care, want Jobs' "just works" toaster, as long as it works. For Apple, the user experience is part of "the whole widget" and their "obsolete" is just "suboptimal user experience" rather than "well, if you still want to use that 'antique' you can turn it into a printer server or a firewall" found elsewhere. A cluster of water cooled G5s can make mincemeat of mountains of data, it just cannot use Big Sur; on the other hand, people talking about clusters and data were probably "think different" before someone made a poster.

Hate the trashcan Mac Pro? I learned BASIC on a Commodore PET and the first machine I owned was a VIC-20. Back then, "upgrade" meant something like "plug it in" without the benefit of even the hope of a hub --a switch, then a heavy steel box with a large rheostat and enough resistors and capacitors to open your own RadioShack, is NOT a hub. In practice, this meant that a huge desk was needed to stretch out the wires (for longevity and cleaning*) from some peripheral to a switch and thence to the actual computer. Outgrew your VIC-20? Here's a C-64, none of the peripherals will work but at least the switches will! You could, daisy chain the floppy drives but it slowed the data transfer and the plastic box held on to a lot of heat; as heavy as they were, there had to be a fair amount of metal in there along with whatever made them "smart peripherals" --the intent was to free the 6502 in the machine to do work while the data came and went. ** The year I started drooling over Lisa (1983), the desk spanned somewhere around 12 feet! I had homework to do and I am a night owl so I made a sound "suppression" enclosure for a dot matrix printer that without the enclosure could give a line printer a run for its money; 14 feet of desk and space for boxes of tractor feed paper and little by little, every creature comfort left the room and THEN, the bookcases came. WordStar was still in the future (for us anyway) and there were already TWO! Just for the computer books and an issue or two of Computer Shopper.

I am not trying to say something like "when I was your age... uphill, both ways... in 10 feet of snow", I am just trying to illustrate --vividly, I hope-- a past before NAS and Thunderbolt and wall mounted monitors that can move to ergonomic perfection. I believe that the idea is that for most people, the weight of their OMG laptop matters and the idea that should they forget it somewhere, killing it is a phone call --at worst-- away is a major selling point. When an AX router can handle the NAS (or two!) and a laser printer and it can all be found in a closet in the basement, why bother with anything other than a beanbag and some Apple Music over any number of Bluetooth speakers? My mom yelled, parents today, FaceTime when it is time to eat --"Nag different?". The price? About every three years, take the old one in and trade it in for another WOW! machine; UNIX? What is that? Data? Math? Normalization? Python vs. Java? XML? Pantone? Now you are just making stuff up!

The thing is, when time comes to trade something in, all the other crap still works because the wifi is backwards compatible (what default password?) and no one has to worry about WinTel gamer vs Mac creative or compatibility. I wish I could say that I have a nixie watch and an HP-48GX but I'd wager that few here have either and some might need an explanation for either or both; however, somewhere near you... "and we are calling it iPhone!" I hate it but Jobs version of the world would seem to be "right" for most.

Hang in there... just a bit longer...

I have been digging around the windows registry since NT4 and 95 and I know just enough to get in trouble there as well but between that and slipstreaming and cut this and that out, I worked with a version of windows XP for years on a pentium III. It could only run office --no macros--, a portable browser, and a registry editor but it could not catch a cold in a smallpox ward. I did something similar for windows 7 for a friend with one of those netbooks and he would have been better off with NetBSD or Debian. By the time that anemic Atom did anything worth doing, windows had turned off so much that portable software did a better job for almost anything; however, before I stripped out all sorts of junk, anemic or not, it could not only be sick, it could be the cause of sickness in others. Microsoft is no better --and often worse-- at supporting software than Apple; it is more important for them to sell you a new version than it is for Apple, they don't have an actual widget to sell you! Then there's the WinTel modems that are interconnected to RJ-45 and phone (whew! that's a long time ago eh? LOL!!) with which, Microsoft guaranteed that I will look for UNIX compatibility (today, that means look at a Mac first, Linux laptops have --in my experience-- issues with wifi and bluetooth radios and probably something or other else unless Red Hat Enterprise is your distro of choice) first because something that can run iLumos (the open source version of Oracle's System V R.4 based UNIX) or OpenBSD will almost certainly do fine with any Linux.

Unless you need to write code for an AS/400 or some other prehistoric dinosaur, Windows is not versatile, it is poorly planned and poorly executed. Please, allow me to explain: yes, there are a million ways of doing anything, unfortunately, that is because no one actually thought about the need to do whatever it is you are doing, anyone that has driven the beltways around Atlanta knows exactly what that is like. Eventually, you get used to doing something a certain way (it was so easy to use the control panel that I forgot what I had learned as a kid beyond 'learn the stuff they cant change' --forgot that as well--, I forgot the cryptic dos names) and everything is fine until they change a small portion of your path (something like "Road Closed, Bridge Out") and the cussing and swearing and the headaches come back. The truest versatility is the considered option: when you install windows, no one asks if you want the internet explorer based file system utility or if you want explorer.exe to be your shell. Indeed, no one asks if you want the gigantic footprint of windows 10 as opposed to "give me the barest GUI and the footprint of the micro install of windows server". You are not even asked if you want every port in the universe open by default or not. Insanely, the option that was available in windows 2000 to install an actual UNIX subsystem (a Sys V R 4 derivative no less) is not available, a toy version of linux is shoved along side PowerShell and a kindaDOS for nostalgia. The versatility of windows is a mirage enhanced by gaming and VR toys. I say that because DirectX will not improve the word processing or spreadsheet image but when you are tired, it will improve the heck out of the most demanding game. This is not an impossible dream, all these things are possible in the current edition of Windows Server --hopefully, sans wannabe Linux. Microsoft just doesn't know whether it is coming or going, ask Nokia or SCO or let Steve Balmer tell you about the iPhone... I wonder who will be the next "Steve Balmer" when it becomes clear that Windows2000 had the right stuff and 10 and Linux is just another "Zune".


Apple will not give me everything I want --not a single option-- but I do have Posix/SUS (lose that and "nothin' but the taillights") and everything is closed by default and security is so tight that the most dangerous thing to a Mac is the operator. They will not support cMPs with Big Sur but it will install and they will talk about it for free without too much trouble --if you are using one of their services when you have the problem, it will be like the first day! Microsoft wants to sell me Office (first developed for Macs) while Apple gives me something that installs locally for free. Microsoft would have to make such a game changer of a citation manager to sell me something that they would rather lose most of the academic market than do something so obvious. Apple has not treated anyone "creative" decently in a long time *** but, at least, my citation database (I lost everything I had on Mendeley which I used to recommend) will be safe on iCloud. At least, the defaults system does Boolean algebra...


Why all that? Planned obsolescence is probably not a problem for anyone here. The very fact that you ARE here means that you are able to ask for help when you don't know and help others when you do --surprisingly rare qualities. I started with my cMP with the knowledge that I would have to learn enough UNIX to survive the inevitable moment when I would not have enough money available to get an equivalent jump in Mac Pro. Paper bag calculations suggest that I would need somewhere around 10k for replacement capability (still no camera or serious audio) that would not include equivalent upgradability. On the other hand, Dragonfly BSD would seem to be all about optimizing SMP performance and OpenBSD provides security that is good enough for a bank; I do not yet know which way I will go but I have a few years to decide, Big Sur will install if the support check is inactivated and security updates (did I get this right?) will install even if nothing else will?

There is far more UNIX to learn than I ever thought possible --where on a PDP-11 could they have put all of these commands and switches!-- but I do not expect to have to channel Dennis Richey daily, there are people here and in the UNIX forum that can help if I get stuck. The fact is that when Apple stops supporting cMPs (apparently, now?) my machine will not suddenly turn into a victrola and neither will yours; stay away from windows, friends don't let friends use things that need their config.sys or autoexec.bat checked, lack pipes, or are so buggy that people turn off the "features" that caused them to buy the machine in the first place. Since the last time I was doing something inside my cMP, people at MacRumors have found ways to drastically increase the ram, instal 802.11ac, and add thunderbolt 3 and handoff and continuity WILL work (as opposed to "y'all watch this!") These machines are serious beasts and will blow people away (what windows machine that is as old as my cMP can handle 160gb of ram?) long after Apple realizes that with a little effort they could have kept customers for their music and storage services happy and telling everyone about The Apple Experience.****




Please forgive my chattiness, thank you for reading this far.










* The actual wires were generally no thicker than those in a thiner wire, the thickness was RF insulation and even then, it just wasn't that great; however, a coiled over wire that hung from the desk was a recipe for disaster and I never bought a cable back then for less than 20$.

**I am not comparing anything to the Apple of IIe times because anyone that had a machine that could have cards added to a riser such that they could not close the lid simply did not have a comparable experience.

*** Ritchey, Thompson, and Kerrigan could not get AT&T to buy them a new Mac Pro today even after the ACM award! The world is so screwed up that someone would probably offer them three iMac Pros instead.

****If anyone at Apple reads this: Sell us a service that will keep us on MacOS by providing security and functionality maintenance.
 
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MP6,1 Xeons don't have the required QuickSync hardware HEIVC encode/decode, they don't even have QuickSync.

Support for Sidecar start with Skylake generation processors, like MacBook Pro 2016, MP6,1 Xeons are Ivy Bridge.

I was able to get sidecar to work on my 2015 dual graphics MacBook pro with no issues. and the 2016 macbook pros sucked due to their crappy keyboard.
 

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Thats to say if Apple will support it after Catalina, if not.. there is always Linux, and many other distros.
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Since this is a plist type of file, can it be revised ?


Nothing is beatable. If that is a plist file and it can be modified, then one can put 5,1 in the supported machines portion. Just a thought, though Dosdude's Catalina patcher is out.
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Dude, don't worry.. the 5,1 will still work just fine.. sad to say that my G5 Quad exploded today because it doesn't get love from Apple anymore and because its a PowerPC.. No, just kidding ! The G5 is running Ubuntu as a server and my 5,1 is running as my normal computer. If the computer does what u need it to, then no need to complain or panic. Many agree with this statement: If you ask about the 2019-2020 Mac Pro and complain about the price, the machine is not for you. However, many of us want to have the new mac pro, but the price is really high.


I have a G5 Quad too.. how did you get Linux to work on it ? I keep getting a black screen and nothing boots when I try to install Linux. - I get the bootstrap and stuff that scrolls then a black screen.. My video card, Nvidia GF6600 256MB works fine under OS X, but in Linux under the installer I get a black screen. Please private message me to let me know if i HAVE TO use some stupid command like noveau ?
 

RAMtheSSD

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I have a G5 Quad too.. how did you get Linux to work on it ? I keep getting a black screen and nothing boots when I try to install Linux. - I get the bootstrap and stuff that scrolls then a black screen.. My video card, Nvidia GF6600 256MB works fine under OS X, but in Linux under the installer I get a black screen. Please private message me to let me know if i HAVE TO use some stupid command like noveau ?

The problems that can be found under Linux --particularly, post install-- vary by distro and vary wildly. Yellow dog would have been perfect --it still could be; it is still available but you'd have to do some work to bring it up to current security standards etc-- but it has not been updated in 12 years. It is based on RedHat (distrowatch says Fedora/CentOS but CentOS did not even exist yet so ??) but that does not mean that Fedora will work. I have never used it but T2SDE sounds promising and flexible and a half but is a desktop oriented distro. TA Linux is a more data oriented distro but it is in the same situation as YellowDog. It may be an unpopular statement but it has been my experience: STAY AWAY FROM UBUNTU; the main thing I have gotten from any effort with UBUNTU is instability. Gentoo will work but it is something with which to become really familiar, take extensive notes, and before doing anything, the machine will get hot, seriously hot, have a way to keep it cool. The big endian and little endian thing was giving me a headache but it would seem that a current Linux kernel image is available so that T2SDE thing would seem like your easiest bet because you can make your own "stew" and recompile only if you need to.

My two cents: you are beating yourself up unnecessarily, all the BSDs support PPC architecture without the whole Big/Little endian thing and your video card will almost certainly work without a hitch. If you must have a Linux and that T2SDE does not give you what you need, I'd go with YellowDog while you learn all you can about the Gentoo install process (and there is a lot, I had to take the machine outside so that it would finish compiling but that was a long time ago, maybe the process is more efficient now) and then dive right in. That being said, why go through all that when any BSD will install without a hassle and you can even cluster with a BSD and with Beowulf (just a bunch vs. Beowulf) apparently, it is possible to control the cluster from whatever MacOS you can run on something else (I just learned that and I have lots of questions so take it with a grain of salt)? Everything has tradeoffs and the BSDs all trade something for whatever the stated goal is; the Linuxes are no different.

You could just be on a command line but I think it is more likely that everything was fine while text was all that needed to be displayed and then something switched on, something x86 oriented, and everything stopped.

MacBook Pro Dude: In the whole Little/Big endian forest, it seemed that (I say it like that because I need to learn more about PPC architecture after Apple left) some of the G5 and after are not like the others. There is direct support for the ones "not like Apple" but apparently, scant support for "like Apple". Since no one is saying what distro and what kernel and what specific PPC, I suspect that some PowerMacs are not like the others but I do need to learn more --for instance, are the water cooled PPCs the same as the air cooled PPCs?
 
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No, the liquid cooled G5's - dual 2.5, dual 2.7 and Quad are different than the air cooled PPC G5s, that is they are more stable than the liquid cooling G5s. I have never had issues with the liquid cooled G5 Quad, its never been an issue for me and has never overheated. Since I got this back in 2009, it still runs like a champ. I just see that Leopard is no longer a good OS for it, and seek to install Linux or maybe FreeBSD on it.
 

RAMtheSSD

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No, the liquid cooled G5's - dual 2.5, dual 2.7 and Quad are different than the air cooled PPC G5s, that is they are more stable than the liquid cooling G5s. I have never had issues with the liquid cooled G5 Quad, its never been an issue for me and has never overheated. Since I got this back in 2009, it still runs like a champ. I just see that Leopard is no longer a good OS for it, and seek to install Linux or maybe FreeBSD on it.

I don't understand, the liquids are not as stable as the air but they are specifically different? As in not the same series and 32 vs 64? However, you have a liquid cooled with fully functional and clean water coolers with a 64 bit ppc with virtualization that has never given you the problems you have heard others have had, correct?

As near as I can ascertain, the 970FX and 970MP are 64 bit and big endian and the little endian option was not implemented. The problem is that I cant say if or if not some of the MPs did or did not implement the bi endian option. The Debian version is kept up to date and is functional (AFAIK) for big endian; apparently, the issue is the number of dedicated maintainers. The FreeBSD is the best bet in that it will give you a 64 bit big endian that will do the most with the least effort. The other BSDs are 32 bit (AFAIK) for PPCs. In any case, when you get this working, write it up because someone out there will be going through the same thing. The challenge to come is the Beowulf cluster because, if I have this right, the MP has virtualization so VMware and Big Sur? would that be possible?
 
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