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I have an additional problem.

I tried transferring BOTH new builds (6R73) of Mac OS X 10.2.8 to my iBook, currently running 10.2.6. When I try to update with the 40MB download, it still won't mount.

And when I try to install the little 600KB package on my iBook, I get to the Select A Destination screen, but I am not allowed to install the update:

"Installing this software requires 146KB of disk space."

I have 1.1GB left.
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Exclamation mark in red octagon stamped on the Hard Drive icon, as well as to the left of the following message:

"You cannot install this software on this disk. This volume does not meet the requirements for this update."
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I just don't understand...my Cube with 10.2.8 (6R65) will accept the (6R73) update, but my iBook with 10.2.6 won't?

I need help with this entire situation.
 
Originally posted by King Cobra
I'm surprised no one mentioned this...

I went through every post in this thread (for the first time) and no one has mentioned that

There are THREE versions of 10.2.8 (for non-G5 machines):
10.2.8 (Build 6R65): The one that caused networking problems
10.2.8 (Build 6R73) (600KB): The one that "improved" battery status, and
10.2.8 (Build 6R73) (40MB): Off Apple's site.

(And then there are the G5 versions...)

I didn't yet install the 600KB update from the Software Update control panel, which I despise. __
Running the old 10.2.8 on a G4 Cube [/B][/QUOTE]

Try this one. This is the one I used and had success...

[url]http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120244[/url]
 
King Cobra: the small 600kb package is only for systems that had the earlier 10.2.8 installed (i.e. your cube but not your ibook). If you didn't install the original 10.2.8, you need one of the larger packages, the 40MB version, or the massive 90 odd MB combo updater. (I always use the combo versions, with earlier updates there have been many fewer problems for those who used the combo version).

Just to add my 2 cents about batteries, My original 12" pbook gained about 30-45 minutes of battery life under 10.2.8, compared to 10.2.7 (I didn't install the original 10.2.8). That is actual timed usage, not just the estimate from the menubar.
 
Re: screwed

Originally posted by 240vac
{snippage}
Various icons do not appear in the top-right, such as wireless signal strength and battery life.
{snippage}

Same thing happened to me when I quickly updated to OS 10.2.6 ...

I had to start over with OS 10.2, and then install the combo updater.

Ever since: before I update anything: I use Cocktail to Prebind and REPAIR PERMISSIONS.

Then after the update: I use Cocktail to Prebind and REPAIR PERMISSIONS.
=-=
JJ
 
I wouldn't doubt the previous poster's words about how the 10.2.8 updates reflect different estimations of portable battery life, but for kicks:

With 10.2.6: 2:57
With 10.2.8 (latest): 4:21

But...
On my Cube, there is a startup lag at the progress screen for a whole minute, specifically, "Waiting for network initialization". The same goes for my iBook.

So, for me, boot time is significantly longer. I'm guessing 50% longer.

The Finder as a whole seems a bit more responsive.
 
just another battery observation

I'm using xbattery to monitor my battery behaviour. Interesting, the old .8 got my gerneral usage time (browsing on airport) down to about two (timed) hours. When the thing was new last autumn (ibook 700) I timed 5hours, seven minutes, same usage. new with the new .8 i got 3 hours 20 minutes.
While its a good deal better than the old .8 its still way less then it used to be.

It reflects in the xbattery capacity monitor as well. starting off at 4.1 Ah, it is now at 3.6 Ah which is almost 10% capacity loss.
Hm, I can't say that i like that :( but still - 10% would make some 30 minutes at 5 hours, so i still lack a whole hour... I really have to test how to get most out of the battery
 
still messes up my computer

I have a B&W G3 400. This update (and the previous one that was pulled) makes my machine freeze on the Apple startup screen. Phooey...

I haven't had the guts to try it on the wife's iBook. It's an 800Mhz, but she can't afford to have anything screw it up, so I guess, I'll wait. Fortunately I have a second HD with 10.2.6 on it.

D
 
My eMac Still Works - Mostly

I read all the posts about this latest version of the 10.2.8 upgrade and bravely decided to try it.

I backed up my hard drive and repaired permissions. Then I installed the upgrade.

The first time I restarted the computer it took significantly longer to restart. The "blue screen of life" as some call it stayed visible for about 30 seconds before the desktop finally appeared. I immediately restarted the computer and the restart was much quicker the 2nd time - even faster than before the upgrade. I again repaired permissions as people here recommended.

So far everything seems to work fine. The machine *seems* a bit snappier. There are 2 problems unfortunately. The first is that I can no longer access the System Profiler. When I click on "About This Mac" that window displays but the "More Info..." button is not blue and nothing happens when I click on it. Makes me wonder what other hidden malfunction may have been introduced by this upgrade. Also I had hoped that a major bug in Safari would have been repaired but it wasn't. When attempting to copy images (such as album artwork) and paste them the image always appears inverted and reversed. I have to crank up Explorer to capture images since it does them correctly.

A few other issues: The faint high pitched squeak heard through headphones during disk access is still there. And I thought the Address Book and Calendar were supposed to have new versions too. Ah well. At least my computer is still running well otherwise.
 
Re: just another battery observation

Originally posted by visor
I'm using xbattery to monitor my battery behaviour. Interesting, the old .8 got my gerneral usage time (browsing on airport) down to about two (timed) hours. When the thing was new last autumn (ibook 700) I timed 5hours, seven minutes, same usage. new with the new .8 i got 3 hours 20 minutes.
While its a good deal better than the old .8 its still way less then it used to be.

It reflects in the xbattery capacity monitor as well. starting off at 4.1 Ah, it is now at 3.6 Ah which is almost 10% capacity loss.
Hm, I can't say that i like that :( but still - 10% would make some 30 minutes at 5 hours, so i still lack a whole hour... I really have to test how to get most out of the battery

Don't use Xbattery. It actually lessens battery life by always checking its charge. You are better off leaving the operating system doing its duties. I hope you upgraded to 10.2.8 6R73, as 6R65 is known to lessen battery life too. See Apple's update of a day ago.
 
New ibooks

First of all, Hello I am new here!

I didn't have time to read this whole thread this morning so forgive me if somebody has already suggested what I am about to say.

I would think it would be cool and it would make sense if the new ibook had the minor upgrades like a new 1 ghz g3, new usb, better graphics.

The major changes should be the form factor. I love the way it is now with the white plastic, But maybe the new change in form factor would be thinner, wider, lighter. Or maybe it would be cool to see one bigger, wider, and with a rubberized shock proof case that is also weather resistant. It definitely should come with the backlighted keyboard for the cool factor hehe.

-Jason
 
Originally posted by King Cobra
{snippage}

"Waiting for network initialization". The same goes for my iBook.

{snippage}

Open System Preferences. Click Network. Show: select Built-in Ethernet. Configure: change it from "Using DHCP" to any other.

Your computers are initializing the network connection with DHCP, and you are not connected to a network.

You can find your IP address listed in Apple System Profiler under the System Profile tab: at the bottom of the page, click the Network Overview flags.
 
This is strange...but in a good way :)

Originally posted by alirio
Anyone else have similar results?

I'm one of those people waiting for his new AluBook to ship and wincing at the reports of low battery life.

I'm sitting here in the student union at my college and for a little while my battery was decreasing in percentage yet increasing in time :) I wasn't doing anything intensive so it's not an effect of me doing something and then not....I was down to around 1:25 or so left about 10 minutes ago but since then I've downloaded the update manually but then I let software update do it so that's been using my airport extreme heavily now it's hovering around 1:40-1:41 left....so nothing major but then again my battery is around 20% lower than it was....I'm not sure what that means because it didn't really take that much time to drop percentage yet it tells me I have 1:41 left....oh well we'll see what happens....for any of you who wish to know:

Upgraded from 10.2.7 to 10.2.8 (revised version)
15" Aluminum Powerbook with Superdrive
1.25 GHz and each bank filled with 256MB DDR 2700 (factory)
 
Re: Re: clock speed thing

Originally posted by sopheapsem
That's not what's happening here. I'm working on a piece of software that relies on the gesfalt 'pclk' to identify a machine and it reports the wrong value under 10.28. simple. i then noticed that folks with tibooks on the xbench forum were reporting similar miscalculations--so I ran xbench in 10.28 and it also reports 667mhz on a 1ghz machine. i have no idea why apple system profiler reports the proper speed other than to say that it obviously doesn't use that gesfalt value to report clock speed. I've gone back to 10.26 now and the proper speed is reported. It's just a stored value that is being reported incorrectly in 10.28, but it will cause problems. So far, I've only read reports of this from powerbook users.

In an effort to help you with your program, I'm using a 1.25GHz 15" and xbench reports the processor speed correctly....I have my slewing set to auto unless the update changed that....checking...yeah it's still on auto....maybe you got a slewed result or maybe only the 1GHz and below report the incorrect numbers? Hope this helps...
 
Re: New ibooks

Originally posted by rosiedog
First of all, Hello I am new here!

I didn't have time to read this whole thread this morning so forgive me if somebody has already suggested what I am about to say.

I would think it would be cool and it would make sense if the new ibook had the minor upgrades like a new 1 ghz g3, new usb, better graphics.

The major changes should be the form factor. I love the way it is now with the white plastic, But maybe the new change in form factor would be thinner, wider, lighter. Or maybe it would be cool to see one bigger, wider, and with a rubberized shock proof case that is also weather resistant. It definitely should come with the backlighted keyboard for the cool factor hehe.

-Jason

Welcome, though I think you clicked the wrong forum link, this is the discussion on the re-release of OS 10.2.8....also the iBook is actually clear (probably some form of lexan) with a coat of white paint on the inside so it doesn't get scratched....
 
Re: clock speed thing

Originally posted by zync
In an effort to help you with your program, I'm using a 1.25GHz 15" and xbench reports the processor speed correctly....I have my slewing set to auto unless the update changed that....checking...yeah it's still on auto....maybe you got a slewed result or maybe only the 1GHz and below report the incorrect numbers? Hope this helps...

Thanks for checking. I've got my machine set to 'highest' CPU performance, so i don't think it's a slewed report. Interesting that it's not affecting the newest powerbook. I am not alone, though--check here:

http://discussions.info.apple.com/WebX?14@218.aWrcaz2kgqs.2@.599a4e72

and here:

http://discussions.info.apple.com/WebX?14@218.aWrcaz2kgqs.8@.599a42a6

Seems to be affecting 1Ghz and 867Ghz machines. PRAM reset sometimes fixes it until a restart, and then back to the wrong value again. Again, I don't think this is a report of actual speed decrease just an improperly set value in the 10.28 update.
 
Originally posted by JJTiger1
Open System Preferences. Click Network. Show: select Built-in Ethernet. Configure: change it from "Using DHCP" to any other.

Excellent find.

BTW
Re: Your sig
We do have two red Jeeps. We had to get a third one because one was stolen. :p :p :(
 
Re: emac and 10.2.8

Originally posted by fourthtunz
I upgraded my 1 gig emac to 10.2.8 and it seems to be working fine, haven't noticed a speed increase but haven't used much other than safari, aol may be a little faster though.
any other emac users? peace
daniel

We just got our new eMac home 2 weeks ago. I updated to 10.2.8 through software update last Saturday. Everything worked fine till Monday afternoon. My wife tried to boot up but there was no video. When I came home I hooked up the monitor from our old PC. That worked fine up still no internal video. I don't think the internal video loss was due to installing 10.2.8 as I haven't come across that problem in any posts on the web. Has anyone else come across this problem?
 
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