I thought this list was about you, not a generalization of people who you think think like you.
But as others have said, whatever. I don't use the iTMS because I find it easier to pirate music.
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I thought this list was about you, not a generalization of people who you think think like you.
But as others have said, whatever. I don't use the iTMS because I find it easier to pirate music.
nobody cares. Get used to it.01 - A lot of music fans prefer to listen to entire albums from start to finish rather than picking tracks from an album to put into a playlist. Get used to it.
02 - A lot of music fans are happy to go and hunt down CDs at the cheapest prices possible which ultimately means it costs less for a CD than it does buying the tracks individually on iTunes. Get used to it.
03 - A lot of music fans prefer to buy their music on CD (even vinyl) to get what they believe is the best reproduction of that music on their hifi equipment rather than paying for lossy downloads. Get used to it.
04 - A lot of music fans find CDs excellent value for money. This is because they are discerning people who may break the law occasionally by downloading an album from BitTorrent or Usenet but ultimately buy the album if it is good. This means they never buy a bad CD meaning they are very pleased with CDs as a product and are more likely to go buy even more of them. Get used to it.
05 - Not all albums have only one or two good tracks on them. If you consider this justification for buying music track-by-track then knock yourselves out. However, by diligent selection, it is entirely possible to find wholly excellent albums that will keep you listening from start to finish. Get used to it.
06 - A lot of music fans are not politicians. If Sony, EMI or one of the big record companies release a good album, they will go buy it and enjoy it. They will possibly also go check out the product of small independent labels. If they are kept satisfied by good music and enough of it, they really don't care who marketed it. Get used to it.
07 - A lot of music fans feel they get more for their money by getting a plastic case, disk and some sleevenotes to read on the toilet rather than downloading it. Get used to it.
08 - A lot of music fans do own iPods and non-proprietary players in order to play the music they themselves have ripped from their own collections as a matter of portability and convenience and never once go anywhere near iTunes. Get used to it.
09 - A lot of CD-buying music fans hate music thieves because the former end up subsidising the latter by virtue of what they buy. Get used to it.
10 - By virtue of being a CD-buying music fan, it is perfectly possible to be an honest user of music whilst hating DRM and DRM-peddlars like Apple and iTunes. Get used to it.
For me its like this: Pros: -Can buy the single only, -DRMs (means no ONE can listen to my music unless I authorize it) -Songs are available 30secs (or less) after being bought. Cons: Low Bit-rate; AKA low quality (although 256 is OK) - Poor Electronic catalogue... and thats it.
Victor
Victor
Well, OP, now that I know why "a lot of music fans" don't want to use iTunes, can you tell me why you won't use it? You write in a very harsh tone, especially with your "get used to it" clause after every point. Nobody here is against your decision, yet you write like we're all out to get you. I don't care, and I don't think that anyone else does. Get used to it.
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That's nice. Thanks for sharing your illegal actions on the internet.
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Even if that were somehow true, it is still no justification. I freely admit that have done it in my (slightly) younger years, so I'm not judging anyone. But I'm starting to buy all of the music that I got from friends so it will be as square as I can get; since I can't give back the time I already listened to it.
Not everyone pirates music. I for sure don't. And if you can't find it illegally, why not try getting it in a legal manner...@ akonradi Everyone does it, The pirating thing. But it's harder than buying the dam album
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And @ the OP, the only scenario in which your 'get used to it' rhetoric would be justified is if a poster before you made a harsh statement about people that don't use iTMS, and claimed that they better change.
Otherwise you just sound like a fool; which I believe is the case.
Otherwise you just sound like a fool; which I believe is the case.
Really? Easier how?, I'm just curious, back when I did(which was with Napster so quite some time ago), things we're ugly....iTunes certainly has easy of use( over the old P2P stuff)...I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm looking for some detail
goodness gracious... i'm hijacking this thing.
Why am I even dignifying this obnoxious post with a reply?
Fine, don't use iTMS... I don't either... nobody else gives a darn.
wth was the point of all of this anyway, aside from regurgitating any complaints that came up on day one of the iTMS?
If one wanted to have a substantive discussion on iTMS, we could certainly argue for ways iTMS could be made better. In fact, I think I will do just that and hijack this thread.
How could Apple make iTMS better? I see a few ways:
1. At least match Amazon on record label deals... match their price and DRM across the board if not beat them.
2. Allow more social aspects. Though this has never been Apple's strong point, they can certainly allow for something more than album reviews and iMix. How about letting users create their own profiles for others to see, containing their purchases (if they wish to display that), what they recommend, what they've reviewed, etc.
3. Simplification... I think iTMS is getting a little too crowded visually. Perhaps a redesign is in order, though I have no clever ideas for this one.
4. Movies: Rent to Own; 30 - 36 hour rental period (why not do this with disney first? then get the others to do it...) HD quality for comp dl too.
Please, feel free to add your own ideas or add-on / criticize what I've listed.
Hijack is now in progress...
Why am I even dignifying this obnoxious post with a reply?
Fine, don't use iTMS... I don't either... nobody else gives a darn.
wth was the point of all of this anyway, aside from regurgitating any complaints that came up on day one of the iTMS?
If one wanted to have a substantive discussion on iTMS, we could certainly argue for ways iTMS could be made better. In fact, I think I will do just that and hijack this thread.
How could Apple make iTMS better? I see a few ways:
1. At least match Amazon on record label deals... match their price and DRM across the board if not beat them.
2. Allow more social aspects. Though this has never been Apple's strong point, they can certainly allow for something more than album reviews and iMix. How about letting users create their own profiles for others to see, containing their purchases (if they wish to display that), what they recommend, what they've reviewed, etc.
3. Simplification... I think iTMS is getting a little too crowded visually. Perhaps a redesign is in order, though I have no clever ideas for this one.
4. Movies: Rent to Own; 30 - 36 hour rental period (why not do this with disney first? then get the others to do it...) HD quality for comp dl too.
Please, feel free to add your own ideas or add-on / criticize what I've listed.
Hijack is now in progress...
@ akonradi Everyone does it, The pirating thing. But it's harder than buying the dam album
Emm not everybody does it... I've done, I won't deny it, but I do avoid it, why? Because the musician(s) should get the $ they deserve and because the quality of such pirated music is just terrible; AAC Lossless or AAC @ high kbps FTW.
Victor
Which is all fine for tracks that get released as a single, but pretty much useless for the others.
I actually stopped reading after point number 2 as the whole 'get used to it' was far too annoying.
However, I do half agree with the 2 points that I read. You really forget how good CDs sound after listening to MP3s for ages. But then again, it's soo much easier to just flick to the next album or song on iTunes than walk over to the bookshelf and grab a CD...
However, I do half agree with the 2 points that I read. You really forget how good CDs sound after listening to MP3s for ages. But then again, it's soo much easier to just flick to the next album or song on iTunes than walk over to the bookshelf and grab a CD...
So you're saying you can convert a lossy file to lossless one??
How does one do this??
Then download the album rather than individual tracks. Most "albums" suck to the extreme ... and only two cuts are usually worth a dang.
The newest Raconteurs album is one of the rare instances when the whole album is good. Of course, I guess indie bands have a leg up on making good albums.
They want to waste gas and buy non-recyclable CDs then all the power to them. I'd rather get mine in a format that has the lowest eco-footprint.
That's an admonition on iTMS but there are such things as lossless audio rips. FLAC/ALE are just two examples. I have the vinyl 96-khz/24-bit "Icky Thump" playing right this second through iTunes.
Still doesn't eliminate the carbon imprint.
I prefer releases like In Rainbows by Radiohead or Flashbulb's Soundtrack to a Vacant Life. Provide me a lossless alternative to physical media and I'll happily buy it.
I don't think ANYONE finds CDs to be a wonderful or excellent value. I don't know one person who wouldn't prefer having all their music in lossless audio and own 0 cds.
Isn't this the same topic as 1? It's cheating to have the same thing twice.
What does this have to do with iTMS? iTMS tends to have more indie artists than the local shops.
Oh boy! Plastic!
Okay. A lot don't. So?
Actually, the cost of CDs has dropped rather than increased since their inception.
The manufacturing cost of and printing of a CD is negligible. Transport and marketing is the cost. Why not remove it altogether and offer a digital lossless solution at a fraction of the cost?
Could anyone really say no to a $5 lossless recording?
I don't know one person, iTMS or music-hack, that likes DRM. This argument is pointless.
I guess I don't get your whole point. I don't use iTMS because they don't offer lossless audio recordings. I don't purchase CDs typically because they are a rip-off and have such a negative eco-footprint.
I prefer a lossless digital solution for the sake of simplicity, organization and heaven forbid ... the environment. Get used to it.
No, you cannot. Once a lossy format has been used on a track, the file created will permanently be "lossy". It only has the chance of becoming "lossier" through transcoding (taking the same file and converting it to another lossy/lossless format).
You'll never get the missing sound or quality unless you re-rip the album and start from scratch.
Then you might as well not buy CDs. As just one example:
Courtney Love Speaks Out (2000)
It's an older article, but the first one I found. Artists don't see a dime. It's why I won't support the CD industry. BUT -- I will purchase directly from the artist when they have digital copies available even when I'm not a huge fan. (examples: Flashbulb, Barenaked Ladies, Radiohead, Raconteurs)
You just use the wrong pirates. Not that I'm advocating their cause ... but you can get pristine copies of MFSL/DCC and some rarer 1st pressing from other countries that put the American CD version to shame. You can also get vinyl copies, with range and heart to die for .... to think that digital piracy is somehow inferior is crazy.
If no one likes DRM, why has iTunes sold over 4 billion songs? I think anyone opposed to DRM who still buys music through iTunes is an utter hypocrite; it just sends the wrong message to Apple and the music industry.
It's sad that so many people are willing to settle for mediocrity. I won't listen to an MP3 below 320.
Most people that use iTMS probably have iPods/iPhones etc etc so they don't care about DRM. Get Used To It.
Most headphones (Well most standard cheap headphones that everyone buys) can't handle some bitrates and stuff. Get Used To It.
Apple knows people don't like DRM because they now offer DRM free music and people are buying it. You'd be hard pressed to hear any difference between a 256kbps iTMS AAC file and the actual CD. And you definitely won't hear a difference while driving your car (where a lot of people listen to most of their music) or when in your house when the HVAC is on.
01 - A lot of music fans prefer to listen to entire albums from start to finish rather than picking tracks from an album to put into a playlist. Get used to it.
02 - A lot of music fans are happy to go and hunt down CDs at the cheapest prices possible which ultimately means it costs less for a CD than it does buying the tracks individually on iTunes. Get used to it.
03 - A lot of music fans prefer to buy their music on CD (even vinyl) to get what they believe is the best reproduction of that music on their hifi equipment rather than paying for lossy downloads. Get used to it.
04 - A lot of music fans find CDs excellent value for money. This is because they are discerning people who may break the law occasionally by downloading an album from BitTorrent or Usenet but ultimately buy the album if it is good. This means they never buy a bad CD meaning they are very pleased with CDs as a product and are more likely to go buy even more of them. Get used to it.
05 - Not all albums have only one or two good tracks on them. If you consider this justification for buying music track-by-track then knock yourselves out. However, by diligent selection, it is entirely possible to find wholly excellent albums that will keep you listening from start to finish. Get used to it.
06 - A lot of music fans are not politicians. If Sony, EMI or one of the big record companies release a good album, they will go buy it and enjoy it. They will possibly also go check out the product of small independent labels. If they are kept satisfied by good music and enough of it, they really don't care who marketed it. Get used to it.
07 - A lot of music fans feel they get more for their money by getting a plastic case, disk and some sleevenotes to read on the toilet rather than downloading it. Get used to it.
08 - A lot of music fans do own iPods and non-proprietary players in order to play the music they themselves have ripped from their own collections as a matter of portability and convenience and never once go anywhere near iTunes. Get used to it.
09 - A lot of CD-buying music fans hate music thieves because the former end up subsidising the latter by virtue of what they buy. Get used to it.
10 - By virtue of being a CD-buying music fan, it is perfectly possible to be an honest user of music whilst hating DRM and DRM-peddlars like Apple and iTunes. Get used to it.
01- a lot of music on itunes is available as an entire album. Get used to it.
02 - A lot of music is available on itunes is pretty cheap, 9.99 for an entire album is a deal, especially in major cities, even in my little city. Get used to it.
03 - A lot of music fans prefer to keep their CDs & Vinyls in MINT condition by not even opening the wrapper. Pay another 20 for a collectors cd? Nah, 9.99 for me, Itunes. Get used to it.
04 - A lot of music fans find CDs cheap and scratch too easily. So they load it on their computer, put it on their ipod and then forget they had it and step on it. Get used to it.
05 Not all albums are great. A lot of them suck. If you like 1 or 2, heck maybe 3 tracks, the artist makes more by selling each for $1 a piece then they do if someone just stole it off the net. Get used to it.
06 WTF? Your obviously not going to find your neighbours band on itunes, you going to have to buy their album anyway. Plus its good coverage if/when they do get put onto itunes (ever see the little, we recommend this/users also liked this band/song). Get used to it.
07 - A lot of music fans feel are wasting all that paper and plastic that they throw out because who really wants another crotch shot of Miss Spears? Get used to it.
08 - A lot of music fans do own iPods and non-proprietary players in order to play the music they themselves cannot find in their local music stores, heck some dont even have music stores, who wants to buy from walmart? Not I. Get used to it.
09 - A lot of CD-buying music are sick of buying a CD and not liking it, they have become modern and bought from Itunes, with no regret. Music companies are still thriving. Get used to it.
10 - By virtue of being a Itunes-buying music fan, it is perfectly possible to be an honest user of music whilst hating people who all they do is complain about music mediums like Apple and iTunes. Get used to it.
if you have all your music on your ipod, then you can transfer purchases, I've done it, my pc crashed and I was lucky enough to still have my ipod.
Also if I'm not mistaken, isn't it illegal to sell the CD after you've been finished with it?
Oh yea: Get used to it. hehe
