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FFR

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I don't know what is your problem, do you have problems understanding what other people say?



Please, read, you have asked what can't be done on iOS that can be done on Android. I have answered TWO simple examples, nothing less, nothing more.



All of your rants is you don't understand a simple answer that has broken your world.



Stop talking about widgets, rooting and any **** I have not talked about.



When you can write without trying to guess what others will say, post, until then, try to answer what I have said and not what you think other will say in your imaginary world.


Quit cherry picking his posts.

He answered your question:
Once jailbroken, iOS is just as customizable as android.
 

mi7chy

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Once jailbroken, iOS is just as customizable as android.

Circumventing iOS security to make it do things it can't out of the box isn't a valid solution plus jailbreaking is not guaranteed like if you're on iOS 8.1.1 to fix all the bugs and lag.
 

Tsepz

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The Lightning to SD Card Camera Reader has truly entertained me :D , the lengths one has to go to get Android functionality in iOS are ridiculous. I mean I truly like my iPad for what it can do and I would love for it to have even half the functionality my Note 4 has, but I am not going to Jailbreak and then have to purchase a whole lot of hardware just to get stuff that my Note has conveniently built and baked in.

I prefer to run NOT Rooted or Jailbroken, I think the last time I rooted due to needing to do it was with the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10, with SE's awful TimeScape UI, glad those days are over. :)

I have been tempted to Jailbreak my iPad, but with the iOS8 bugs and updates trying to fix them I just couldn't be bothered, it works well as my Calender viewer at work and SatNav thanks to the 9inch display, spends most of its time in my work bag though these days.
 

pdqgp

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Jailbreaking solves all that. I mean, if one of the big selling points of Android is being open and rooting/flashing ROMs, then you can't get upset when I suggest the same thing for Android.
Now, that said, how many new users are going to jump straight to Tasker/Lightflow without knowing anything else about Android?

Jail breaking? who the F wants to go through all that BS. Is this still 2010? You asked a question and the guy answered. Stock Android allows for far greater personalization and functionality out of the box without having to root or jerk around with Jailbreaking. Been there done that. The whole point of JB'ing was because Apple locks down even basic things. More so in the past since they pretty much integrate the hot items into their OS but in the end, it's still rather limiting.

The capabilities and personalization are the #1 reason I went Android.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Cant make plentiful of amazing transitions like Barrel, or GO launcher on android. Cant share file on bluetooth, cant download countless free ringtones fron any open source like Cydia, cant just copy an AVI or FLV to the phone and play with a 3rd party player. Etc

You have never been able to do those things on iOS and are never likely to be able to because they are all things Android has brought to the market. If you want to do all those then you are the perfect Android customer and you'll be happy you've made the transition. None of these apply to me so this is a positive restriction for my needs.
 

samcraig

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Jail breaking? who the F wants to go through all that BS. Is this still 2010? You asked a question and the guy answered. Stock Android allows for far greater personalization and functionality out of the box without having to root or jerk around with Jailbreaking. Been there done that. The whole point of JB'ing was because Apple locks down even basic things. More so in the past since they pretty much integrate the hot items into their OS but in the end, it's still rather limiting.

The capabilities and personalization are the #1 reason I went Android.

You know - if you buy a lot of extra hardware, jailbreak and code your own software, you can use an iPhone as a helicopter. It's true :eek: And that's really something Android can't do out of the box!!
 

mrex

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Though since many Android device makers abandon their lower-end devices immediately after release, users may not even get the opportunity to update. Either that or they're so accustomed to "Android lag" to begin with that they just don't know to complain.

First of all, you dont buy an option to get any updates at all when you buy an android device. You buy it as it is sold. If you want to get OS updates, then buy Googles device, because only Google has a policy to update their devices.

Secondly, dont expect a low end device to work as a high end model. If you dont want to get lag, buy better one. If you buy cheap, you get cheap. And when you pay a premium price, you dont expect to get that crap that Apple feeds nowadays... Atleast I expect better quality for devices and software...

Thirdly, you dont need the whole OS update to get latest apps. Googles apps are updated through Play store.
 
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mercuryjones

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First of all, you dont buy an option to get any updates at all when you buy an android device. You buy it as it is sold. If you want to get OS updates, then buy Googles device, because only Google has a policy to update their devices.

Secondly, dont expect a low end device to work as a high end model. If you dont want to get lag, buy better one. If you buy cheap, you get cheap. And when you pay a premium price, you dont expect to get that crap that Apple feeds nowadays... Atleast I expect better quality for devices and software...

Thirdly, you dont need the whole OS update to get latest apps. Googles apps are updated through Play store.

There is a very good reason that Google broke their apps out from OS updates. Because people would never get them if they didn't. For the longest time, Android updates were a joke. The joke was "want the latest update? Buy a new device". Thankfully, that has changed in the last year or so. And don't cite XDA as a source, because I'm talking true OS updates, not a third party developer hacking something together for you.
 

pdqgp

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I can see where it looks to be contradictory, but it's not. Please keep up with the argument and stop picking quotes out of several different comments:apple:.

I would suggest you might consider elaborating on how "it's not" contradictory. Doing so will likely reduce at least 14 replies on the matter. ;)
 

mercuryjones

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I would suggest you might consider elaborating on how "it's not" contradictory. Doing so will likely reduce at least 14 replies on the matter. ;)

I guess so. Okay. Jailbreak is the Android of the iOS world. Yes, you get all the pretty shiny objects, but you lose the hope of any timely updates to the OS.
I stopped jailbreaking my devices years ago, once I realized that I wanted to simply use my phone and not tinker with it constantly. Part of the reason I left Android behind as well. If I wasn't so tied into the Apple ecosystem, I might try out Windows Phone, but I'd lose too much compatibility if I left iOS.
 

gotluck

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Quit cherry picking his posts.

He answered your question:
Once jailbroken, iOS is just as customizable as android.

Jailbroken iOS cannot duplicate tasker functionality or cross platform continuity ( pushbullet / airdroid)

Cannot turn screen off while mirroring / air playing videos to tv on iOS. There are some other niche uses that cannot be recreated on jailbroken iOS. I like JB iOS very much but it is not quite as flexible as rooted android.

What really makes me rage is the fact that iOS cannot be downgraded. Waiting for a jailbreak also sucks. On android , if you buy the right device, you can get root access on day one after every update.

Often times on iOS you have to choose between your jailbreak and other fixes that come in later nonjailbreakable firmwares.
 

FFR

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Jailbroken iOS cannot duplicate tasker functionality or cross platform continuity ( pushbullet / airdroid)

Cannot turn screen off while mirroring / air playing videos to tv on iOS. There are some other niche uses that cannot be recreated on jailbroken iOS. I like JB iOS very much but it is not quite as flexible as rooted android.

What really makes me rage is the fact that iOS cannot be downgraded. Waiting for a jailbreak also sucks. On android , if you buy the right device, you can get root access on day one after every update.

Often times on iOS you have to choose between your jailbreak and other fixes that come in later nonjailbreakable firmwares.


Are you sure?
I can AirPlay videos while my screen is turned off.
 

FFR

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10 reasons that made me say goodbye to iPhone for Android

Airplay screen mirroring? That's news to me.



Most of the apps I want to airplay from dont support airplay and have to be hacked via flex which leaves mirroring as the only option


Yup just tried it.

Airplayed a video to the tv the switched off the iPhones display. Still working.

Mirrored display to the tv, played a video than switched off the display. Still worked.

My iPhone is not even jailbroken.
 

gotluck

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Yup just tried it.

Airplayed a video to the tv the switched off the iPhones display. Still working.

Mirrored display to the tv, played a video than switched off the display. Still worked.

My iPhone is not even jailbroken.

what if you mirror the screen, leave it on the home screen, then turn it off without starting the video? Does the home screen continue to mirror?

the video may be using the 'native' airplay in your scenario

if you can do this Apple needs to hurry up on the new ATV so I can buy one.
 

fredaroony

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I would suggest you might consider elaborating on how "it's not" contradictory. Doing so will likely reduce at least 14 replies on the matter. ;)

You won't get a answer that makes any sense as you are 100% correct and based on the reply so am I.
 

pdqgp

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I guess so. Okay. Jailbreak is the Android of the iOS world. Yes, you get all the pretty shiny objects, but you lose the hope of any timely updates to the OS.
I stopped jailbreaking my devices years ago, once I realized that I wanted to simply use my phone and not tinker with it constantly. Part of the reason I left Android behind as well. If I wasn't so tied into the Apple ecosystem, I might try out Windows Phone, but I'd lose too much compatibility if I left iOS.

So you have to JB an iPhone to do what Android does stock, not rooted? I don't see that as the same thing. JB = Root. Stock is stock.

I too stopped JB'ing as Apple finally started including some of the reason I JB my phone into their OS. Hell, the problem is they lock their OS down to begin with. I totally get why, but it's limited and that's the walled garden everyone talks about.

No thanks I said. I moved to Android and not only can do more stock I can do it my way. Everything from the look and feel to apps to the functionality of it all.
 

yui4

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I went back to apple with the release of the 6 +, I had had several different android phones over the previous 2 years and a 5s for work. I like the 6+ but I like the extra functionality the jailbreak brings. The only thing I don't like is now I'm jail broken and apple will soon stop signing 8.1, installing an app that causes issues from cydia could lead to needing a restore and thus no jailbreak. Then back to the limited iOS environment. Android doesn't suffer from this, firstly as it is easier to change and personalise the phones and secondly is that rooting is near enough always possible on most android phones without a fuss. No need to tread carefully on what you install
 

fredaroony

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I went back to apple with the release of the 6 +, I had had several different android phones over the previous 2 years and a 5s for work. I like the 6+ but I like the extra functionality the jailbreak brings. The only thing I don't like is now I'm jail broken and apple will soon stop signing 8.1, installing an app that causes issues from cydia could lead to needing a restore and thus no jailbreak. Then back to the limited iOS environment. Android doesn't suffer from this, firstly as it is easier to change and personalise the phones and secondly is that rooting is near enough always possible on most android phones without a fuss. No need to tread carefully on what you install

Most Android devices allow you to downgrade much easier too.
 
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