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16" M1 Max or M2 Max MBP?
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OP, do you live near an Apple Store?
Go there and buy a “base” M2 Max they have it there. It’s with 32Gb RAM. Bring it home and test it. I bet it will handle your describded workflow. It will be your best computer ever.
Go there and buy a “base” M2 Max they have it there. It’s with 32Gb RAM. Bring it home and test it. I bet it will handle your describded workflow. It will be your best computer ever.
Really? Interesting....how can you be so sure? Why base model? I guess since im coming from a mid 2010 MBP...
Why m2 max base model, if i can get an m1 max with 64gb for less? What is so special about the m2? Not anything againnst m2 max or m1 max at all, just want to know why.
FYI - 4TB / 64GB M1 Max for $2999 - https://slickdeals.net/f/16807523-a...max-chip-64gb-ram-4tb-nvme-2999-free-shipping
With unified memory and AI being used in most tools, it isn’t far fetched to use 96 or even 128. Try upscaling to 4k or 8k using something like Topaz Video AI, M2 is faster compared to M1 Max. Like I said, I won’t upgrade from M1 Max, but if I was in the market, I would get m2 max on education site or refurb store. If you keeping it for longer time, you would appreciate that extra performance as laptop ages.I dont think i need 96GB of RAM, ahd who needs that? Nice though
In what workflows did your folks notice a big difference?
Yeah, some very tempting deals on M1s....thats mainly why i am looking at M1 Max, the deals are amazing.
Yeah true, and since i will be ising Lr/Ps i think the extra RAM of 96GB will definitely be nice, but that is expensive...and 64Gb will suffice.
I feel so jealous of those people who bought it now in the comments section lol....i cant afford that now.
It's an almost 40% discount... I don't believe education / employee discounts are going to exceed that (20% at most?). Seems like a no-brainer if you're looking for that kind of speed and memory.
i know, ive been hoping for that kind of deal on that particular spec, i just really cant afford it this second...
Its ok! I just am planning and deciding in this thread which to get when the time comes. That deal is insane though
1. M1 to M2 is a difference of about 20%. Figure that will be your difference in rendering time.
2. M2 will prob last 1-2 years longer than M1 vis-a-vis OS support.
3. If you can wait until M3 that is definitely the way to go as the jump to 3NM is expected to be big.
4. Maybe consider a Mac Studio. You will usually get more bang for your buck with a desktop.
Hmm, your reactions indicate a certain emotionalism regarding this specific YouTuber...! 🤣😉
Nothing wrong with having your own opinion! Also, everybody is building his opinion based on the information available and this does not necessarily mean that we need to have first hand experience. The problem starts when a personal opinion is stated as fact(s), maybe even the one and only truth, and that personal opinion is "only" baased on second hand information, no personal experience at all. Does that make sense?
Your obsession with the alleged heat problem...! Again, I am using the 16" MBP M2 Max (12/38/16, 64GB, 2TB) and I have still not recognized any heat problem! No, most likely I am not pushing the machine to its limits in my specific usage, but I nevertheless have some first hand information that I consider as helpful. Running TG Pro I see the temps of my computer normally in the 38-45° C range when just doing normal office work or browsing the internet, and all that with an ambient temperature of around 35° C. Working with LrC and PS the temperature may go up to anywhere around 60° C, but no fan running, no palpable heat up of the computer to be recognized. Finally, once I rebuilt the previews of a LrC catalog with approx. 4,000 images. CPU cores 1 and 2 anywhere in the 80-100% range, CPU cores 3-8 at 100%. After a while the fans kicked in, definitely audible, but again, no heat the be felt that was out of range when touching the computer. I do not know the temperatures of the computer at that moment as I still didn´t use TG Pro at that time. My personal opinion concerning heat: Yes, the computer may get warm, maybe even hot, under ceratin circumstances. But most likely in my usage that will not cause any issues and I am sure these machines are designed to take a punch!
Finally, did you go down "the rabbit hole" and watch the videos where I posted the links? No theoretical benchmark data, no emotional statements, just the attempt to provide useful (at least in my opinion) information, especially for photographers. The potential take for you from these videos: Nothing wrong with the M1 Max for such tasks, even the M2 is faster. And also nothing wrong with going "just" for 30 GPU cores instead of 38 cores. If money is a topic the saving out of this cost difference can be used for other things, for example more memory.
So, enjoy your decision making process and later on your new machine, no matter for which one you finally will go. I was coming from a Mid 2012 MBPr and the performance these new machines show is just mind blowing!
Herbert
Personally I too have an anti-UTuber emotionalism as regards the "influencers" because as an educated reasonably tech-competent person I find UTubers invariably just seek clicks, which drives them to pimp sensationalism rather than truth. Their real value add is generally negative.
How to UTube videos are entirely different and very useful.
I somewhat disagree. M3 will be evolutionary but probably not performance revolutionary, because it all gets to chip yields --> costs, etc. Personally I expect Apple to use M3 to build a lighter MBP with the typical ~20% performance increase, but we will see. If a modernized MBP design is important to you then you may care (I do not).
IMO the big benefit of M3 MBPs will be the fact that M2 MBPs should see large price reductions (meaning one will be able to boost RAM at a lower price point). And M2 MBPS are hella strong right now if one puts enough RAM in to service the intended life cycle.
Edit: My statement that M3 will be evolutionary but probably not performance revolutionary applies to MBPs, not to Mac Pros. IMO for Mac Pros M3 will be revolutionary.
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For the things you state you need, I do not see how that extra video accelerator is necessary. I'm even thinking that 64GB of RAM might be overkill. Certainly, I wouldn't go lower than 32GB of RAM, but I think whether or not your photo stitching requires or will even benefit from 64GB of RAM ought to be in question. Were it me, I'd go with the M2 Pro, considering that keeps your cost down and since the "Pro" SoCs always run cooler than the "Max" SoCs.
As for the differences between M1 Max and M2 Max? M2 Max scales way better on the CPU and GPU performance side when it comes to being steps up from the base M2. M2 in general was better for this which is why M1 to M2 isn't that big of a jump; M1 Pro to M2 Pro a little bigger of a jump, but still not much to write home about (save for the added efficiency cores that end up providing power/battery savings); M2 Max giving you M1 Ultra speeds/performance and M2 Ultra being a sizable leap forward from M1 Ultra. Mind you, that's all in theory. Your mileage will 100% vary when it comes to workloads.
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