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If you guys remember, Applause is the company that bought the Bartender app (go through the MacRumors news archive and forums to read about the controversy).

All I've found is that there was a lack of transparency regarding the sale and the new app version started to include some analytics reporting. Anything else?
 
I am not sure why einsteinbqat posted what he did, as the information he shared has been covered, starting with Post #2,882 in this thread.

I didn't see anyone mention Bartender in the thread since Strongbox and Applause were mentioned.

What I saw is people saying how bad Applause is. I simply reminded people of what happened recently with Applause-Bartender and the added telemetry.
 
All I've found is that there was a lack of transparency regarding the sale and the new app version started to include some analytics reporting. Anything else?
Not that I know of, but it made headlines here and elsewhere, and made people talk about it a lot when it happened.
 
I didn't see anyone mention Bartender in the thread since Strongbox and Applause were mentioned.

What I saw is people saying how bad Applause is. I simply reminded people of what happened recently with Applause-Bartender and the added telemetry.
From Post #2,892: “The other criticism is an assertion that Applause adds analytics to their apps. That's what I remember being told when they acquired Bartender.”
 
Do we now have the ability to store attachments(deeds etc) /images/passports/credit cards in the iOS 26 native passwords app?

EDIT:
I don't think so 😞. I only see these new updates:
  • With Passwords, users can easily reference changes they make to their accounts, including checking previous versions of passwords they save, along with details on when they were changed.
But Apple has a journal feature now... great Apple, priorities...
 
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I switched again from Bitwarden to EnPass now. I just like EnPass much more. I use Nextcloud to sync the vault and it works great.

I switched in reverse. Bitwarden autofill is much better than Enpass.

You'll likely still have the 5MB limit if you're on lifetime licenses because they're scummy.

I thought 1PW license was deprecated .
 
I don't see anything new in macOS 26, but 1Password 6 still works.

1Password 7 also still works on iOS 26. I can still sync both through iCloud or WiFi and Dropbox I think.

1PW 6 will still work a long as Rosetta 2 is still supported in MacOS. If the 7-year hardware support cycle still holds true, then Rosetta 2 support should be dropped starting with whatever MacOS version is released in 2028.

I switched in reverse. Bitwarden autofill is much better than Enpass.



I thought 1PW license was deprecated .

Not sure I follow. My lifetime license still works fine with 7.x.

The 1PW 7 license and application will still work, because it is a permanent license. Again, what makes 1PW 7 the sweet spot is the fact that it is a universal binary, so it would work both on Silicon and Intel, without the need for the Rosetta 2 layer to support it. But if you are using 1PW 6 on a Silicon Mac, when Rosetta 2 is dropped, 1 PW 6 will also stop working, because it is an Intel binary. That was one of the reasons that I stopped using 1PW altogether, as I am not wanting to be forced to move my passwords not only to some cloud service, but their personal SaaS, and give up my autonomy over where I want to store my data.

BL.
 
What a shame Apple Passwords is so limited. It’s got all of the backup, security and sync structure in place but still has no categories or templates, no notes or ability to add additional fields.
In Enpass my bank entries have a lot more than just one account number an password. I have the email address, Telephone banking PIN Numbers, BSB numbers ATM PIN and more. Same thing goes for credit cards. Apple Passwords doesn't accommodate any of this.
 
Bitwarden user here for the last two years and former 1Pass user who still keeps it on his Mac Mini Pro just in case.
Both work fine on the mini but at $10 a year for a licensed copy of Bitwarden I will not switch back to 1Password.
 
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1password allows me to save everything user entered on a page. Saves a lot of time and errors when entering data on some websites.
 
1password allows me to save everything user entered on a page. Saves a lot of time and errors when entering data on some websites.

Enpass does this as well, along with a few other password managers.

Again, the problem is three-fold:
  1. 1Password/AgileBits forced everyone to their subscription model, despite the fact of publicly stating that nothing would change with their licensing models and support.
  2. Because of #1, current users (meaning, those without standalone licenses or not using anything older than 1Password 7) are forced to store their vaults on their servers, leaving them with no physical autonomy of their vaults and their data. If I needed to upgrade for any reason, I would have to not only give up my standalone license (which is a permanent license), and pay again - and either a monthly or annual fee - for their subscription to store the same data that I already have with their permanent license. Furthermore, it would be my vault located on their server. If there should be some type of investigation against me, the government would not need a warrant to retrieve my vault. 1Password would be considered a 3rd party to that investigation, so only a subpoena would be needed for them to turn over my data. And worse than that: I would not be notified that that would be happening, because I would be 3rd party to that subpoena. In the US, the 4th Amendment would not apply; that is a MAJOR PROBLEM.
  3. The aforementioned Intel/Apple Silicon issue. Because of that, with Rosetta 2 being dropped in 2028, those on Intel Macs will be stranded for most/all OS support, as those Macs will be declared obsolete. You wouldn't be able to use a Silicon-based Mac, install 1Password 6, and expect it to work; there will be no support for any Intel binaries. If you tried to purchase 1Password 7 and obtain a standalone license, you couldn't, because they took down their license provisioning servers, leading you back to the problem with #1.
1Password screwed over a LOT of users for what they have done, and despite the fact that they said that none of this would happen; hence, this now 118-page long thread.

BL.
 
Enpass does this as well, along with a few other password managers.

Again, the problem is three-fold:
  1. 1Password/AgileBits forced everyone to their subscription model, despite the fact of publicly stating that nothing would change with their licensing models and support.
  2. Because of #1, current users (meaning, those without standalone licenses or not using anything older than 1Password 7) are forced to store their vaults on their servers, leaving them with no physical autonomy of their vaults and their data. If I needed to upgrade for any reason, I would have to not only give up my standalone license (which is a permanent license), and pay again - and either a monthly or annual fee - for their subscription to store the same data that I already have with their permanent license. Furthermore, it would be my vault located on their server. If there should be some type of investigation against me, the government would not need a warrant to retrieve my vault. 1Password would be considered a 3rd party to that investigation, so only a subpoena would be needed for them to turn over my data. And worse than that: I would not be notified that that would be happening, because I would be 3rd party to that subpoena. In the US, the 4th Amendment would not apply; that is a MAJOR PROBLEM.
  3. The aforementioned Intel/Apple Silicon issue. Because of that, with Rosetta 2 being dropped in 2028, those on Intel Macs will be stranded for most/all OS support, as those Macs will be declared obsolete. You wouldn't be able to use a Silicon-based Mac, install 1Password 6, and expect it to work; there will be no support for any Intel binaries. If you tried to purchase 1Password 7 and obtain a standalone license, you couldn't, because they took down their license provisioning servers, leading you back to the problem with #1.
1Password screwed over a LOT of users for what they have done, and despite the fact that they said that none of this would happen; hence, this now 118-page long thread.

BL.

I did not like the way they handled the switch to subscription models for existing users either. I ended up using it for a while, for then switching to ProtonPass, still with a subscription, in bundle with all the other Proton products (vpn, mail, alias email addresses, etc…)

Regarding point 2, it is not exactly true. 1Password (or any other serious provider that stores the vault in the cloud) has an encrypted version of your vault. This is what they are able to provide to the authorities, but decrypting that is close to being impossible today, if your encryption key is something more complicated than “password12345”!

Each tool has its own strategy to encrypt the data, it can be with a random secret key stored on your devices and protected by biometric or password, can be directly a password, a combination or something else, but in general the provider is not able (or should not be able) to access your data, even if it is stored in their cloud servers.

For 1password, details can be found here: https://support.1password.com/1password-security/

For Proton Pass, details can be found here: https://proton.me/blog/proton-pass-security-model

This, combined with independent code audits, as both 1Password and Proton Pass, which is even open source, do, should guarantee that your data is safe.
 
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After using EnPass for a couple of weeks, I decided to switch back to Bitwarden. I was syncing my EnPass vault with a self-hosted Nextcloud server, but I was concerned about potential device failures and the possibility of losing access to my server. If I couldn't log in to my VPS provider without my password manager, I would be in a difficult situation. With Bitwarden, I felt more secure knowing that I had one less thing to worry about.
 
Have they deprecated the "lifetime" license now? That's news.

its not getting any security upgrades. i am going to guess no browser or ios will be able to run it sooner or later. deprecated means no longer supported, right?

What a shame Apple Passwords is so limited. It’s got all of the backup, security and sync structure in place but still has no categories or templates, no notes or ability to add additional fields.
In Enpass my bank entries have a lot more than just one account number an password. I have the email address, Telephone banking PIN Numbers, BSB numbers ATM PIN and more. Same thing goes for credit cards. Apple Passwords doesn't accommodate any of this.

I didn't use ProtonPass for same reason, but maybe proton has updated their app to accept multiple fields now

After using EnPass for a couple of weeks, I decided to switch back to Bitwarden. I was syncing my EnPass vault with a self-hosted Nextcloud server, but I was concerned about potential device failures and the possibility of losing access to my server. If I couldn't log in to my VPS provider without my password manager, I would be in a difficult situation. With Bitwarden, I felt more secure knowing that I had one less thing to worry about.

you can sync over wifi which is my favorite method
 
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Enpass does this as well, along with a few other password managers.

Again, the problem is three-fold:
  1. 1Password/AgileBits forced everyone to their subscription model, despite the fact of publicly stating that nothing would change with their licensing models and support.
  2. Because of #1, current users (meaning, those without standalone licenses or not using anything older than 1Password 7) are forced to store their vaults on their servers, leaving them with no physical autonomy of their vaults and their data. If I needed to upgrade for any reason, I would have to not only give up my standalone license (which is a permanent license), and pay again - and either a monthly or annual fee - for their subscription to store the same data that I already have with their permanent license. Furthermore, it would be my vault located on their server. If there should be some type of investigation against me, the government would not need a warrant to retrieve my vault. 1Password would be considered a 3rd party to that investigation, so only a subpoena would be needed for them to turn over my data. And worse than that: I would not be notified that that would be happening, because I would be 3rd party to that subpoena. In the US, the 4th Amendment would not apply; that is a MAJOR PROBLEM.
  3. The aforementioned Intel/Apple Silicon issue. Because of that, with Rosetta 2 being dropped in 2028, those on Intel Macs will be stranded for most/all OS support, as those Macs will be declared obsolete. You wouldn't be able to use a Silicon-based Mac, install 1Password 6, and expect it to work; there will be no support for any Intel binaries. If you tried to purchase 1Password 7 and obtain a standalone license, you couldn't, because they took down their license provisioning servers, leading you back to the problem with #1.
1Password screwed over a LOT of users for what they have done, and despite the fact that they said that none of this would happen; hence, this now 118-page long thread.

BL.

I think the vault is encrypted even if they hand it over. Of course i do not trust them, but its what they say. I rather trust Bitwarden which is FOSS.
 
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