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Very sad about Minimalist, spent some time transferring my PWs from P7 to that App and liked it a lot. The problem with Indie Software is that it does not survive.
 
Very sad about Minimalist, spent some time transferring my PWs from P7 to that App and liked it a lot. The problem with Indie Software is that it does not survive.
Agreed. Disappointing news. I have an Apple only environment, so Minimalist has been a great app for me - having previously migrated from 1Password. See what other options may be, or if Apple Passwords app now does enough for me.
 
I realize now that the way I've been using 1Password on the iPhone has been Apple's AutoFill. I always select a popup at the bottom of the screen and use it to pick an entry from 1Password. I could also have selected "AutoFill" on the field. Both approaches offer the same password managers that I've set up in Settings. I wonder what the differences are between the two approaches. Does anyone know?

I don’t know the differences, but I do know that I wish 1Password offered Apple’s Aotuofill on macOS. I’ve mentioned this in the past, and still feel strongly about it. I’m not a fan of (installable) extensions in the browser.

A while back, I posted to the 1Password forum asking why they don’t support it, and I got an “our way is better” response. It might be as I’m not a skilled security developer. Alternatively, I know that I can use accessibility options in place of the extension, but giving control of my machine to a software vendor is not in my list of things I want to do.

Here’s hoping 🤞
 
I don’t know the differences, but I do know that I wish 1Password offered Apple’s Aotuofill on macOS. I’ve mentioned this in the past, and still feel strongly about it. I’m not a fan of (installable) extensions in the browser.

A while back, I posted to the 1Password forum asking why they don’t support it, and I got an “our way is better” response. It might be as I’m not a skilled security developer. Alternatively, I know that I can use accessibility options in place of the extension, but giving control of my machine to a software vendor is not in my list of things I want to do.

Here’s hoping 🤞

AutoFill would benefit me as well. Even though I often use 1Password in Firefox and Chrome, the important websites and credentials are almost always accessed using Safari. If AutoFill is indeed safer, then having it in Safari would be an advantage to me.

My intuition tells me that AutoFill would be safer. I've read that the communication channel between the in browser extension and the separate 1Password process which has the credentials is a vulnerability. With AutoFill, Apple is in charge of that channel. Having tight control of the entire OS gives Apple a significant advantage in making that secure.

On the other hand - I have no idea what I'm talking about. It could be that 1Password would be forced into allowing its own code to run within the Safari process or some other execution context that they can't control. I have no idea what risks they might envision if that were the case.
 
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basically look like in time it will be subscriptions only for password mangers meh there only 1 password manger now that i know of that with one time purchase

https://www.phnsft.com/products/safe-for-mac/ meant to be primitive alot of people say

to me strongbox and keeprium will fall in time

Also i know about enpass and it lifetime licence i own one but email activation does my heads in really wish they find a better way
 

All Good Things...​

We had a good run, however it's time to say

Goodbye to Minimalist

Thank you to everyone who has supported Minimalist over the years. Your support has been greatly appreciated.

Unfortunately, the amount of time and effort required to continue developing Minimalist has officially exceeded what we have to offer.

As such, we have made the difficult decision to cease development effective immediately, and end support as of August 1st, 2026.

The final version of Minimalist (3.7) will be available in the App Store until August 1st, 2026. There is also a macOS only version available for download directly from this site.

In this final version, we've updated the built-in export options for Apple Passwords, Safari, and a new Text File format. These options include all Minimalist data, including custom fields, so you will have access to all your data once Minimalist is no longer available.

Thanks again to everyone and take care!

- The Minimalist team


god , i hate it when someone makes a promise then break it. Their reply to Apple_Robert was confident in insuring continued development and some weeks later he quit the project.

Very sad about Minimalist, spent some time transferring my PWs from P7 to that App and liked it a lot. The problem with Indie Software is that it does not survive.

The other browsers will not implement it at all. Strongbox is waiting for this feature since a long long time....

But actually it is also good not to use Strongbox anymore. Has been sold by the developer - and now no development there...

This is one of the main reasons i do not like indie apps especially for critical use cases. They either shut down, slow in development, or sell quitting on the user base. As I mentioned in my posts earlier, better stay with the bigger "herd".

There is another one that looks like Minimalists called Secrets and has license option:

I was going to be moving to Strongbox that was the perfect replacement but now I don't know (no actual positive development with the sale thus far). There is no other proper password app to replace iPassword 7. So I guess I am just going to have to continue holding onto iPassword 7 for now.

wouldn't this have security risks?
 
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basically look like in time it will be subscriptions only for password mangers meh there only 1 password manger now that i know of that with one time purchase

https://www.phnsft.com/products/safe-for-mac/ meant to be primitive alot of people say

to me strongbox and keeprium will fall in time

Also i know about enpass and it lifetime licence i own one but email activation does my heads in really wish they find a better way

-Codebook is free if you store locally I believe
-Bitwarden free
-ProtonPass is free but i think there is upper limit on credit card items
-KeePassXC

I do not know if you trust them but the following options have license option:

-StickPassword
-SafeInCloud

I think you meant KeePassium , the developer was on this thread saying the app was profitable and growing.

Due to security patches, I am not sure if license model is sustainable at least with smaller user base/indie apps
 
god , i hate it when someone makes a promise then break it. Their reply to Apple_Robert was confident in insuring continued development and some weeks later he quit the project.





This is one of the main reasons i do not like indie apps especially for critical use cases. They either shut down, slow in development, or sell quitting on the user base. As I mentioned in my posts earlier, better stay with the bigger "herd".

There is another one that looks like Minimalists called Secrets and has license option:



wouldn't this have security risks?
I used Secrets but wasn't keen on having the app always open in the Dock. It's another single dev app, however it is actively being updated and patched.

I still have 1Password 7, but isn't it vulnerable to the recently discussed clickjacking vulnerability?
 
@DCIFRTHS I am guessing they are referring to https://blog.1password.com/clickjacking-what-it-means-for-1password-users/

@MacBH928
But I don't see this as an issue, for me at least. I have bigger fish to fry when it comes to security. Using 1password 8 in the cloud would open me up, way more, then any clickjacking and, according to the 1password post, doesn't even actually "fix" the issue since it is more a browser one.

If I was very concerned at this moment, then Strongbox it would have to be. I don't know if they even have a solution for this either. But after reading about it, I'm not overly concerned. This is something that has been around for a while.

This and I think many other vulnerabilities no one is talking about... I wouldn't use 1PW7 anymore.
Many other? Please share about the others. Thanks.
 
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@DCIFRTHS I am guessing they are referring to https://blog.1password.com/clickjacking-what-it-means-for-1password-users/

@MacBH928 Asked:
Many other? Please share about the others. Thanks.

Thanks for the link and responding! Although, I am aware of the clickjacking issue, and the cloud storage too. I was asking the same thing, in my post, as you are in the last line of your response to @MacBH928

I have the same question, for @bsmr, as you do.
 
Many other? Please share about the others. Thanks.
I don't know about many others, but I think overall using 1PW7 poses certain risks given that vulnerabilities do exist

With chatgpt's help, I did some deeper digging here's a list of CVEs that exist in 1PW7 that seemingly were addressed in 1PW8. I say seemingly because we can't fully trust chatgpt

  • CVE-2022-29868 — Process validation bypass (macOS / 1Password for Mac 7.x)
  • CVE-2022-32550 — Apps & integrations connection / server impersonation issue
  • CVE-2020-18173 — DLL injection in 1password.dll (Windows desktop)
  • CVE-2021-41795 — Safari app extension authorization bypass (1Password for Mac 7.x)
  • CVE-2020-10256 — Insecure RNG in beta Command-Line Tool & SCIM Bridge (not desktop 7)
  • CVE-2024-42219 & CVE-2024-42218 — Local macOS IPC / downgrade / exfiltration issues (discovered 2024)
  • Settings file integrity / settings.json protections (August 2024 update — not a single CVE) - The newer “additional integrity protections” were shipped in 1Password 8 releases (8.10.38 etc.). 1
 
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I don't know about many others, but I think overall using 1PW7 poses certain risks given that vulnerabilities do exist

With chatgpt's help, I did some deeper digging here's a list of CVEs that exist in 1PW7 that seemingly were addressed in 1PW8. I say seemingly because we can't fully trust chatgpt

  • CVE-2022-29868 — Process validation bypass (macOS / 1Password for Mac 7.x)
  • CVE-2022-32550 — Apps & integrations connection / server impersonation issue
  • CVE-2020-18173 — DLL injection in 1password.dll (Windows desktop)
  • CVE-2021-41795 — Safari app extension authorization bypass (1Password for Mac 7.x)
  • CVE-2020-10256 — Insecure RNG in beta Command-Line Tool & SCIM Bridge (not desktop 7)
  • CVE-2024-42219 & CVE-2024-42218 — Local macOS IPC / downgrade / exfiltration issues (discovered 2024)
  • Settings file integrity / settings.json protections (August 2024 update — not a single CVE) - The newer “additional integrity protections” were shipped in 1Password 8 releases (8.10.38 etc.). 1
Was @bsmr referring to 1Password 7? If so, then I misinterpreted what he/she meant. I thought the comment was referring to 1Password 8.

Edit: spelling
 
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Was @bsmr referring to 1Password 7? If so, then I misinterpreted what he/she meant. I thought the comment was referring to 1Pawword 8.
I thought he was referring to version 7 but I do have a history of misunderstanding people, so this could be on me
 
@DCIFRTHS I am guessing they are referring to https://blog.1password.com/clickjacking-what-it-means-for-1password-users/

@MacBH928
But I don't see this as an issue, for me at least. I have bigger fish to fry when it comes to security. Using 1password 8 in the cloud would open me up, way more, then any clickjacking and, according to the 1password post, doesn't even actually "fix" the issue since it is more a browser one.

If I was very concerned at this moment, then Strongbox it would have to be. I don't know if they even have a solution for this either. But after reading about it, I'm not overly concerned. This is something that has been around for a while.


Many other? Please share about the others. Thanks.

I was thinking more about the 1pw 7 extension for autofill, but if you just use the app then idk what security risk you might face except it might not be compatible with future macos updates. Thats what happened to me when I bought CrossOver , the moment i updated macos it stopped working and there was no free updates I had to rebuy the newer version if i wanted it to work.
 
Trying another different password like manager. Heylogin. Only said like because it is not really a full fledged one. Depends.

The best part is no master pass. You can decide which device unlocks all your login and passwords.


 
I use 1Password extensively, but I've been thinking of changing to use Apple's built-in Passwords app. Any thoughts or comments? I realise it's a bit less capable, but the basic job of holding and filling passwords seems to work pretty well across all my Mac devices.
 
I've been thinking of changing to use Apple's built-in Passwords app. Any thoughts or comments?
With the demise of Minimalist I tried Apple Passwords again, then went back to Minimalist! The main reason is that I'm not comfortable having my password manager use the same password as my Mac login.

For iOS you can use Stolen Device Protection and set to "Always". This requires biometric login to access Apple Passwords, not just a PIN or password. Unfortunately MacOS doesn't have Stolen Device Protection.
 
The main reason is that I'm not comfortable having my password manager use the same password as my Mac login.
In a way that was one reason why I chose not to use proton's password manager. The master password is the my account password.
 
You can set an additional password on top of your account for proton pass
That's a fairly new feature, when it was first rolled out, you had no choice but to use your account password.

I use a number of proton products, I have for years, but in this instance I feel that 1Password - whose sole focus is password management offers a superior product and service.
 
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I use 1Password extensively, but I've been thinking of changing to use Apple's built-in Passwords app. Any thoughts or comments? I realise it's a bit less capable, but the basic job of holding and filling passwords seems to work pretty well across all my Mac devices.
For our uses, Apple’s Passwords app works very well. We need something across Apple devices (iphones, iPads, iMac) and keep 1Password only for compatibility among those devices and my wife’s work Microsoft Surface Book. She’s now retired, we use the Surface Book infrequently (almost none at all), and Passwords now meets our needs.

The extra features of 1Password that we liked, such as credit card info, secure notes, etc., are now also offered in iOS, iPadOS, and macOS in slightly less convenient ways, but they’re there. So when our current license for 1Password v7 is due for renewal, we’re out.
 
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