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-Codebook is free if you store locally I believe
-Bitwarden free
-ProtonPass is free but i think there is upper limit on credit card items
-KeePassXC

I do not know if you trust them but the following options have license option:

-StickPassword
-SafeInCloud

I think you meant , the developer was on this thread saying the app was profitable and growing.

Due to security patches, I am not sure if license model is sustainable at least with smaller user base/indie apps
while i understand the advantages of the cloud am trying to stay from it to me the user should be able to have our database local

So that rules out bitwarden proton pass is part of my account package mainly use there vpn.KeePassium hasn't been updated in 8months

just notice strongbox has been updated even if it small fixes that may be my go to for a backup offline wise

i believe the others two don't have passkey support and my isp account required it for sign in

Relating I am not sure if license model is sustainable at least with smaller user base/indie apps -- am beginning to notice that also!

codebook wasn't my cup of tea but am going recheck it due to it having wifi sync
 
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I continue to be a paid 1Password user and lover for how well it's supported and updated and, crucially, how it's a fully independent solution.

It's really nice to not have that tied into my specific OS and/or devices as much as the Apple offering is.

It's not an ideological thing so much as a practical and functional one.
 
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I use 1Password extensively, but I've been thinking of changing to use Apple's built-in Passwords app. Any thoughts or comments? I realise it's a bit less capable, but the basic job of holding and filling passwords seems to work pretty well across all my Mac devices.
After dealing with my daughter being locked out of her Apple ID and locked out of everything including her passwords, I wouldn’t.
 
After dealing with my daughter being locked out of her Apple ID and locked out of everything including her passwords, I wouldn’t.

Bingo!
Exactly the scenario I don't want to have.

Too many things, especially important things like passwords or emails, tied to specific IDs (like an AppleID) are more of a headache than a help.
 
I use 1Password extensively, but I've been thinking of changing to use Apple's built-in Passwords app. Any thoughts or comments? I realise it's a bit less capable, but the basic job of holding and filling passwords seems to work pretty well across all my Mac devices.

If you are happy no reason to jump ship, you could try Apple Passwords app. I'd suggest Proton Pass i think you might like it.


I continue to be a paid 1Password user and lover for how well it's supported and updated and, crucially, how it's a fully independent solution.

It's really nice to not have that tied into my specific OS and/or devices as much as the Apple offering is.

It's not an ideological thing so much as a practical and functional one.

I still think 1pw is best all rounder, I quit on them due to their business practices. that and I'd rather support a FOSS platform

After dealing with my daughter being locked out of her Apple ID and locked out of everything including her passwords, I wouldn’t.

If losing my AppleID means i lose access to my passwords, the answer is absolute no.
 
After dealing with my daughter being locked out of her Apple ID and locked out of everything including her passwords, I wouldn’t.
This is an interesting development and a huge reason I wouldn't use it, since I would use it to store my Apple ID. Without access to the passwords I couldn't get into my Apple ID. LOL that would be a disaster. No thanks.
 
After dealing with my daughter being locked out of her Apple ID and locked out of everything including her passwords, I wouldn’t.
There's something to be said about not putting all of your eggs in one basket.

For me, I'd rather go with a company who's focus is on the product, not one that thinks its a feature that may or may not get updated, or dropped in the future.
 
For our uses, Apple’s Passwords app works very well. We need something across Apple devices (iphones, iPads, iMac) and keep 1Password only for compatibility among those devices and my wife’s work Microsoft Surface Book. She’s now retired, we use the Surface Book infrequently (almost none at all), and Passwords now meets our needs.

The extra features of 1Password that we liked, such as credit card info, secure notes, etc., are now also offered in iOS, iPadOS, and macOS in slightly less convenient ways, but they’re there. So when our current license for 1Password v7 is due for renewal, we’re out.

Did you purchase the subscription for 1Password 7, or the full standalone license? If the latter, you can drop it now or continue to use it, as the standalone license is lifetime.

BL.
 
Did you purchase the subscription for 1Password 7, or the full standalone license? If the latter, you can drop it now or continue to use it, as the standalone license is lifetime.

BL.
Full standalone license. Might keep it around, but we’ve really moved to Passwords for, well, passwords across our Applesphere.
 
This is an interesting development and a huge reason I wouldn't use it, since I would use it to store my Apple ID. Without access to the passwords I couldn't get into my Apple ID. LOL that would be a disaster. No thanks.
I keep my passwords etc. in several different apps, including Apple Passwords. That way, if one goes out of business or I should get locked out, I still have access to my information.
 
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I keep my passwords etc. in several different apps, including Apple Passwords. That way, if one goes out of business or I should get locked out, I still have access to my information.
I did same. I wanted Enpass lifetime license but had to wait til offer which take months so I went to Bitwarden. Then months later Enpass lifetime license finally on offer and got it then. In end I decide keep Bitwarden around instead of get rid of it. Then apple password come along and use that but Apple password doesn’t have all my password since I am not too sure how safe it is over UK government vs Apple over encryption battle in court. Really Enpass and Bitwarden is my main password manager. Apple password is like 3rd option.
 
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I keep my passwords etc. in several different apps, including Apple Passwords. That way, if one goes out of business or I should get locked out, I still have access to my information.

good strategy except with time things get out of sync for me, i sometimes add stuff to enpass and forget to add to bitwarden and the opposite.

plus you have to do some data cleaning everytime you export/import from one manager to the other
 
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Full standalone license. Might keep it around, but we’ve really moved to Passwords for, well, passwords across our Applesphere.

Then you don't have to worry about any type of renewal or anything. That license is lifetime, so you can transition away at any time without waiting to run out any time left from an annual subscription.

That's how I handled everything with 1Password 6, and that one is also a permanent license. I had no upgrade path to 1Password 7, wasn't going to follow their subscription model after they stated that they weren't going to be any changes for existing customers, and migrated away. Haven't looked at 1Password/AgileBits since.

BL.
 
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how was the importing - exporting between passwords managers when it attachments and Stuff
I was 1password and I export 1password to Bitwarden and had to check all passwords and change lot of entries since 1password have fields that Bitwarden don’t have etc. But when I export Bitwarden to Enpass it was lot better. Barely have to change anything. Just folders I think was only thing for Enpass I updated.
 
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