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Give it a try! You only need to pay when you want to add TOTP codes, Yubikey support, etc.

Can I get TOTP for my bank? my bank sends SMS TOTP so I do not think that works with the password autofill

Criminals aren’t the issue; the loss of your 4A right to have the authorities to require a warrant to retrieve your data is a bigger loss of your rights than criminals breaking in to get it. Because that cloud service is a 3rd party to any investigation of you, a warrant would not be needed to get your data from that 3rd party, and you would be powerless to do anything about it.

Loss of your rights for the sake of convenience is not a right worth risking.

Unless they are lying, 1password and others claim to have an encrypted storage so even if the goverment asks for your data they can not crack it.

Wirecutter and a lot of other tech websites have become just advertising blogs with "bought" reviews in recent years. I wouldn't trust them. It's a good first stop for getting ideas but that's it.
Most of the time they will just recommend the big 5 in the market with the market leader in the first place.

I trust wirecutter (maybe I shouldn't?) , but I found their usual recommendations are acceptable and products chosen can hardly be a wrong choice. As for displaying the paid sponsor, idk, I sometimes think that but I have seen them switch their top choice over the years.

For example, they used to recommend Netgear Orbi for wifi mesh and now they recommend Asusu ZenWifi.

I hear that, and the issue is complex and we can go down the PRSI path very easily that the mods will come in and drop the ban hammer

Let me just say if you or anyone is in the cross hairs of the authorities to an extent that they're willing to get a court order for cloud based providers, don't you think they would have already (or will) have search warrants for your house?

It seems in some states you can be compelled to provide passwords and/or log into your computer.


I'm not taking one random website I found by googling as gospel, but my point is that having your passwords stored locally does not inherently offer you more rights or protections from the police or court systems.

I think the idea is that if your data is with the company then you will never know if they got the info or not, monitoring behind the scenes. If your data is with you, then you will at least see the cops on the front door and know you are under surveillance. In addition, gov can get you, but at least no other corporate or outside government can get it. If your data is in the cloud they can share it with 3rd party of whatever they choose (or whoever is the highest bidder!)

Yea, if the gov. is out to get you, they will get you.
 
tbh I think their client is clunky and ugly as hell but I don't care because 99% of the time I'm not using it and just doing autofill.

I hardly launch the app but I do not see much down side compared to the extension. Its like the extension in app form.
 
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Here is a story some might find interesting:

First of all this is a good example of open source working as it should be. A flaw is detected and made public so everyone who is affected can take actions to prevent data loss.
At the same time devs are working to close the gap.

This is a rather good article about the matter, I’ve seen a lot of clickbait regarding this flaw.

The most important information should be at the beginning of the article:
This is only possible with physical access to the computer or with malware.
 
Conversely, could a proprietary password manager have similar vulnerability(ies) and the developers are keeping queit? We will never know!
I think that any developer of a proprietary password manager who became aware of a vulnerability to their code, whether their own discovery or via an independent researcher, would quickly provide a fix, and sooner that the current month out that KeePass is promising. After all, the developer has a vested interest in providing a secure product.

Here is another article about the problem: https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/keepass-master-password-plain-text-vulnerability/

From the article:

The one caveat to this security breach is it requires physical access to the machine from which the master password is to be extracted. But that’s not necessarily always a problem – as we’ve seen in the LastPass exploit saga, hackers can gain access to a target’s computer using vulnerable remote access apps installed on the computer.
 
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I think that any developer of a proprietary password manager who became aware of a vulnerability to their code, whether their own discovery or via an independent researcher, would quickly provide a fix, and sooner that the current month out that KeePass is promising. After all, the developer has a vested interest in providing a secure product.

Here is another article about the problem: https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/keepass-master-password-plain-text-vulnerability/

From the article:

The one caveat to this security breach is it requires physical access to the machine from which the master password is to be extracted. But that’s not necessarily always a problem – as we’ve seen in the LastPass exploit saga, hackers can gain access to a target’s computer using vulnerable remote access apps installed on the computer.

depends on how professional and how much care they put into it. Some developers are careless, and as a non-programmer I can't tell how much effort should go into it.

in addition to due to the proprietary nature of the software they might not be aware of the vulnerability, I mean if I was a malicious hacker I won't report that I found a flaw in their software and will keep abusing it.
 
I think that any developer of a proprietary password manager who became aware of a vulnerability to their code, whether their own discovery or via an independent researcher, would quickly provide a fix, and sooner that the current month out that KeePass is promising. After all, the developer has a vested interest in providing a secure product.
It is not possible to make a general statement about this, because it is often not even known how long the security vulnerability is known on the Darknet before it becomes public. Many gaps are not even made public, but are quietly patched by the companies. Generally, Apple or Microsoft, for example, sometimes need days to weeks until a gap is closed, or even much longer.
 
For those who are interested in taking matters in their own hands:

Is it hard to get into?
No. It is easier than I thought before. It is very easy to use and works on the iPhone, my Mac and Linux. I love it so far. I love that it uses a bare minimum of resources. I love that I have full control of everything.
If you take the time and put the work into it you can run this on everything. It is not for people who are having a hard time installing stuff from the Appstore. But following the tutorial is easy.

Edit: I don't know why this video is marked as not available. Just look for "Terminal Password Manager" in Youtube, the Creator is "Dreams of Code".
Even if you don't want to try this it is a very good video for beginners and gives a lot of insight.
 
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For those who are interested in taking matters in their own hands:

Is it hard to get into?
No. It is easier than I thought before. It is very easy to use and works on the iPhone, my Mac and Linux. I love it so far. I love that it uses a bare minimum of resources. I love that I have full control of everything.
If you take the time and put the work into it you can run this on everything. It is not for people who are having a hard time installing stuff from the Appstore. But following the tutorial is easy.

Edit: I don't know why this video is marked as not available. Just look for "Terminal Password Manager" in Youtube, the Creator is "Dreams of Code".
Even if you don't want to try this it is a very good video for beginners and gives a lot of insight.

I know some people live in the terminal, but for us mere mortals having to remember the commands in our heads is just too difficult. But as long as it secure its still an option
 
And on it goes....

LastPass 2FA reset prompts are locking users out of accounts​


Yandex locked me out of an email account because I couldn't remember my favorite artist I filled in when i created the account like 7 years ago. To unlock the account they want me to upload my ID to them 😂

Another issue with trusting cloud storage, 2FAs, and proprietary software

How are they still in business and why are people still using them?

I assure you the masses out there have no idea what they are doing. Just as much as I have no idea how my tv works, I click on and it turns on. They just get a password manager and think they are set. This type of news they probably never hear of as they are busy with their instagram posts and watching Snapchat.

I saw people who thought a Mac Mini was a cable converter box
 
PROTON PASS IS OUT

Video Review

Free for all, $1/M for some extra features, or $10 for VPN, EMAIL, CALENDAR, 500GB Cloud Drive, ProtonPass . Take that $3/M 1password! Its a little bare bones but another option if you trust Proton.

I will remain with Bitwarden and Enpass simply because I believe in keeping competition alive and not reach "final stage capitalism" where one corporate owns it all. I am Proton subscriber any way.
 
PROTON PASS IS OUT

Video Review

Free for all, $1/M for some extra features, or $10 for VPN, EMAIL, CALENDAR, 500GB Cloud Drive, ProtonPass . Take that $3/M 1password! Its a little bare bones but another option if you trust Proton.

I will remain with Bitwarden and Enpass simply because I believe in keeping competition alive and not reach "final stage capitalism" where one corporate owns it all. I am Proton subscriber any way.

Interesting to note:

If one wanted to get this (especially the free version), you have to:
  1. create an account,
  2. supply credit card info, then
  3. check out.
Supply credit card info for the free version? :oops:🤨

BL.
 
PROTON PASS IS OUT

Video Review

Free for all, $1/M for some extra features, or $10 for VPN, EMAIL, CALENDAR, 500GB Cloud Drive, ProtonPass . Take that $3/M 1password! Its a little bare bones but another option if you trust Proton.
I’m not impressed at all. It’s missing a lot and like the video said, it can’t compete with other password managers alone. I don’t use Proton mail much anymore, because they lack features and slow to roll them out. This has to be the most underwhelming password manager, ever.
Honestly, it Apple Keychain had a standalone app, it would probably have the same functionality and features as this.
 
PROTON PASS IS OUT

Video Review

Free for all, $1/M for some extra features, or $10 for VPN, EMAIL, CALENDAR, 500GB Cloud Drive, ProtonPass . Take that $3/M 1password! Its a little bare bones but another option if you trust Proton.

I will remain with Bitwarden and Enpass simply because I believe in keeping competition alive and not reach "final stage capitalism" where one corporate owns it all. I am Proton subscriber any way.

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In my opinion, it would be absurd to agree to such a condition of use.
 

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You agree that the Company, and any parents, subsidiaries, officers, directors, employees, agents, or third-party contractors (the "Indemnified Parties") cannot be held responsible for any third-party claim, demand, or damages, including reasonable attorneys’ fees, arising out of your use of your Account or the Services. You agree that the Indemnified Parties will have no liability in connection with any such third-party claim, demand, or damages, and you agree to indemnify any and all resulting loss, damages, judgments, awards, costs, expenses, and attorneys’ fees and litigation expenses of the Indemnified Parties in connection therewith. You will also indemnify and hold the Indemnified Parties harmless from and against any third-party claims, demands, or damages arising out of your use of your Account or the Services.


In my opinion, it would be absurd to agree to such a condition of use.

Yes. Absurd. But few bother to read this stuff.

1Password, held in high esteem by many (I fail to see why) says :

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AgileBits Inc. its subsidiaries, affiliates, and its licensors do not warrant that a) the Service will function uninterrupted, secure or available at any particular time or location; b) any errors or defects will be corrected; c) the Service is free of viruses or other harmful components; or d) the results of using the Service will meet your requirements.

... blah blah blah

Yes. It is Absurd.
 
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