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1TB iPhone 16 Pro Models Could Face Performance Setback

ohthehorror said:
I’m so sick of this company.
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Why?

Seriously, why?

First off, the opening post is one of those ****-stirring articles simply meant to churn the hit count.

Secondly, everything you buy has been produced by someone who has had to make cost tradeoffs. Every last item you buy. I write that with confidence because I doubt people here, at least 99.9% of them, do not buy and cannot afford luxury items where cost is irrelevant.

Apple is merely doing what has to be done.

If they did not do so, they'd be out of business.
 
And .... this would just be one more way Apple is losing me as a customer. I spent SO many years defending their products as superior solutions/purchases. But this "Tim Cook era" has been nothing but a slow decline into mediocrity.

I mean, the Apple I first got on-board with and got excited about was a company that didn't always reveal the details about WHY some product or other turned out to have a defect. But you didn't CARE, except for just the interest in it from a technical standpoint, because you could trust Apple to do the right thing. You went to your Apple store or called the toll-free number and got your postage-paid return box to mail it back in, and they handled it. It's that kind of customer service that justified paying more for the products than the generic PC clone someone was always trying to argue was a "way better deal".

And while Apple always charged a stupidly high premium to add additional RAM or mass storage? It used to be trivial to buy it someplace else and upgrade it yourself, if you wanted to save the money and didn't care that Apple provided everything in it.

At least with the iPhones and iPads, you could be pretty confident they tried to be "best in class" with performance that matched or beat competing devices of the same general type. No upgrade options but they weren't full-blown computers where you expected to be able to do it. As long as you got the "best tech" inside that was reasonable for Apple to put in, you were happy.

All this cost-cutting on parts cost that compromises the performance and longevity? Nope! Not what I expect from anything with the Apple logo printed on it.
 
Pakaku said:
Music, in my case
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For me, photos, video and music. But also? Not all of us like paying monthly subscription fees for larger amounts of cloud storage for things. We're fine keeping it on our devices, synced or backed up to our computers at home.

There are more times than I can count when I had to go through a "not fun at all" session of helping a generally computer illiterate person out when they filled up the storage on their iPad/iPhone and didn't know what to do to fix it. These are always the people who bought the smallest available storage option because someone told them, "You'll never need more space!"
 
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Possible that Apple shifts it to QLC. Will bring in more profits for Apple. Over time, all the models will shift to QLC
 
Sorinut said:
I wonder the same. I have 185gb free on my 256gb.
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Some of us out here can take a lot of videos and pictures. When I went on a cruise, I ended up with nearly 200gb of photos and videos taken during the trip. I could have taken a lot more. When I take my Nikon camera, I like to transfer the pictures and video directly to my iPhone so that I can tag the location and those RAW files can be huge.

A lot of us also has a lot of documents in our books app and Office Files that CAN take up a lot of space. I have a lot of reference material that I keep downloaded for quick access.

It just depends. We each use our phone differently. Having more storage can be a benefit to some of us out there. That's why it's an option!

Also, if I have to transfer dashcam footage or other media, it's nice to have the overhead.
 
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aidler said:
Yeah, I agree. For those top and totally overpriced models, the top priority is to reduce costs and worsen the user experience. Makes sense 🤣
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I seriously doubt that. Storage has to meet minimum specs in order to record 4k 60 HEVC video. Apple is very aware of those specs. I love the fact that I can record a video and 20 minutes in, I get the "Phone too hot" (because I'm on the beach or somewhere that is actually blazing hot) and the phone shuts down. When the phone cools off and I turn the phone on, the video is intact. Every single time.

Notice at the end of the article... "unless Apple makes optimizations" and I feel that there will be optimization one way or another, but I seriously doubt any one of us would notice a speed difference if there is any.

My money is on Apple ensuring that quality and speed is there and they won't release that technology until it is there.
 
hacky said:
I don't get this either. Do people casually take 10000 photos every week? Can't they offload old photos and videos to the home NAS or cloud storage? Do people really need to have 5 year old photos still in their pocket on the local storage?
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Before I sync my videos and photos, I would end up with a full phone of videos and pictures. I would transfer to an external drive all the time, but sometimes I got too lazy and it would be a month or even three months later and my phone would be nearly full on 512gb sometimes.

Now I have sync turned on and took all the photos and videos from NAS and brought it into Photos and did the sync. Now I have access to ALL my photos and videos. What's left is those files waiting to sync. I create about 20gb of photos and videos a day.
 
aberdeenmeadows said:
Before I sync my videos and photos, I would end up with a full phone of videos and pictures. I would transfer to an external drive all the time, but sometimes I got too lazy and it would be a month or even three months later and my phone would be nearly full on 512gb sometimes.

Now I have sync turned on and took all the photos and videos from NAS and brought it into Photos and did the sync. Now I have access to ALL my photos and videos. What's left is those files waiting to sync. I create about 20gb of photos and videos a day.
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As someone unfamiliar with a NAS and synching photos/videos - is there a youtube channel or website you recommend for someone getting started?
 
aberdeenmeadows said:
I create about 20gb of photos and videos a day.
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Wow, I understand need for large iPhone capacity in such case.

Out of curiosity what are you taking photos and videos of - every day? Is it part of your job? How many photos do you take considering it takes 20 GB per day?
 
i4k20c said:
As someone unfamiliar with a NAS and synching photos/videos - is there a youtube channel or website you recommend for someone getting started?
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You would have to search - and when I was trying to understand this, there wasn't one specific video. I had to go to several as each one didn't address in its entirety the process.

I will provide some tips and from there, you can seek out some sites or videos that may go into more detail.

Things to know:
  • EVERYTHING IS IN THE PHOTOS APP
  • When you turn on Sync (Settings), there are two options
    • Sync and keep on device
      • You might want to do that from a Mac if you have a lot of pics and videos. It will consume space.
      • Highly recommended for ONE Device to have this, otherwise you are relying on iCloud to have ALL of your photos and videos that sync.
    • Sync and remove original from device (it will keep a thumbnail on your device)
      • Best for iPhones and iPads. Will save you a lot of space on these devices
  • When you DELETE a photo or video, it will be removed from ALL devices and from iCloud. It will go in your delete folder for 30 days and then it is gone forever.
  • If more than one person in the household uses the same account, if they DELETE, it's going to be deleted everywhere and not just on the device you are on.
  • If you do sync, but don't want certain photos or videos to go to the cloud or go to all the devices, you can't - but there is a way around it. I take those photos and videos and HIDE them. Such as cooking videos or memes that I don't want in my normal photos. I put those in HIDE and then export them to a NAS so what's left in my Photos app is my family forever pictures and videos.
  • If you want to make your own backup of Photos (highly recommended) - you can select a group and choose export and then find your NAS Drive. But you don't have to have a NAS - it could be a simple external hard drive - whether SSD or hdd.

What is cool about turning the sync on and not having your storage eaten up, is that you can see every photo and video. As an example, yesterday my friend stopped in at Inventor's Restaurant and thought it was interesting and showed me what he was eating. I happened to have gone to that same restaurant couple years ago. So in Photos on my phone, I did a search for the city and it showed me all the photos. I shared those photos with him and it was a cool experience - to not only say "Yeah, I was there" - but to actually pull up the photos within a few seconds!

I always make a point that when I travel somewhere, to take a picture because then I have a record of date/time/place. I've been to Belize twice so it's fun to search for Belize and see both trips.

Hope this helps. Just remember - DON"T DELETE unless you want it gone forever!!!!
 
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hacky said:
Wow, I understand need for large iPhone capacity in such case.

Out of curiosity what are you taking photos and videos of - every day? Is it part of your job? How many photos do you take considering it takes 20 GB per day?
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Personal - not work. We do a lot of brainstorming conversations that need to be documented - so it's mostly video. These brainstorming sessions turns into action so we both want to ensure we have clarity. We could use 1080 and save space, but I prefer to use the highest quality no matter what I am doing. We may have a one hour conversation and it is insightful of the ideas and thoughts that we have and saves us from typing up notes. We can always refer back to the video and get exactly what was documented. We used to use GoPro a lot in the past, but have turned to the iPhone because of the ultrawide lens. The file sizes are smaller, battery lasts a lot longer, and phone is fast to charge up as needed.

We also do a lot of travel, so we will do a lot of pictures and we do video as well.
 
Crixus said:
Maybe it's time to familiarize with Adroid...
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I use both android and iPhone. Both have their goods and bad. With android, a lot of the goodies can come from the manufacturer, such as Samsung. There are Samsung features that I really love that aren't on the iPhone.

Overall, the iPhone has the best ecosystem - but you are mostly locked in that system which is why most people that have iPhones don't switch - too much invested in the notes app, Apple Calendar, Apple Contacts.

For the longest time, I kept all my contacts with google but it's been a headache for me on my iPhone so last month, I decided to have ALL my contacts on the iPhone's native contact app and so far, works out great but dang.. if I go to an android phone - no access unless I log into my iCloud account on the web.
 
saudor said:
dang. QLC speeds drop below HDD speeds when the SLC cache is exhausted. People who fill up their phones to the limit are going to really feel it. THey’ll need to at least dedicate a non user-accessible region of NAND to absorb incoming writes .
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I assume the storage manufacturers did this so that they just call a 1.2TB drive 1TB. Not a fan of this move but if they do it I'd be fine if the regular 16 was hit with this but the 16 Pro was not.
 
HobeSoundDarryl said:
This rumor doesn't say anything at all about the price of iPhone having to go higher if Apple keeps using the SAME, faster storage than opting for this rumored slower storage.

This card is played to make it sound like keeping it the same means the price must go up. What will go up if this is true is margin.

And Apple may opt to raise the price anyway to further enhance that margin... which is as plausible as the idea that Apple would otherwise have to raise the price without slowing down the storage.

Want to somewhat manage customer frustration with an OPTIONAL decision like this? Pass through the savings to the customers with LOWERED iPhone pricing. That too is just as plausible as the idea that pricing must go up without reducing the underlying cost of storage as rumored here.

But that's not the proposition in this rumor: it appears to be hold the price at the SAME but slow the storage because it's cheaper for Apple. Customers thinking as customers should never applaud margin expansion. That's a shareholder mentality. Customers should want as much value for their money as they can get.
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True. Customers want to buy the product they like at the lowest price, while companies want to sell the products they manufacture at the highest price possible.

It’s up to the customer do decide if a product that want to buy has the appropriate value to price ratio for them.

If you’re a Macrumors poster and believe that the margin that apple is making on a product is too high. Don’t buy the product.
 
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So...Any confirmation yet as to whether this rumor is true or not? Somewhat basing my decision of 512GB vs 1TB on this.
 
Whats funny, NOBODY here complaining or in life, will EVER notice a difference if this is true. NOBODY. It's just chum. Something to get clicks and earn ad money for most blog/news sites. If it were true, there would be 2TB storage options. Still only 1TB.
 
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