Resolved 2006/2007 Mac Pro (1,1/2,1) and OS X Yosemite

[Jayson A]

I don't need to read my previous comments because I know perfectly well (and so do you) that:

1. I wasn't the one having any problems.
2. It was conceivable that the bootloader might be somehow related to the issues two other people were experiencing and which I had not experienced myself (although I use Little Snitch, which does not seem to be your case).
3. However, the case of mouse performance is manifestly totally unrelated to the content of this thread.

So I'm amply satisfied that you think I've expressed my point so well. It continues to be very clear. It isn't contradictory AT ALL, and you are manifestly out of line. Anything else, "sir"?

The mouse problem *is* related to this thread though because I'm using a modified version of Yosemite on a Mac Pro 1,1 and I ran into a rather odd issue. An issue that I am having a very hard time finding anyone complaining about elsewhere. Therefore, I figured my issue might in fact be this modified version of Yosemite running on an unsupported Mac.

How was I supposed to know it's unrelated? If it was a widespread problem with all Macs, you'd think there'd be a lot more complaints about it and like I said, I only found one other person who had this problem and nobody replied to his thread.

Here's the thread I was talking about: https://discussions.apple.com/message/27680868?ac_cid=tw123456 There were no responses until I responded.

 

[PeterHolbrook]

The mouse problem *is* related to this thread though because I'm using a modified version of Yosemite on a Mac Pro 1,1 and I ran into a rather odd issue. An issue that I am having a very hard time finding anyone complaining about elsewhere. Therefore, I figured my issue might in fact be this modified version of Yosemite running on an unsupported Mac.

How was I supposed to know it's unrelated? If it was a widespread problem with all Macs, you'd think there'd be a lot more complaints about it and like I said, I only found one other person who had this problem and nobody replied to his thread.

Here's the thread I was talking about: https://discussions.apple.com/message/27680868?ac_cid=tw123456 There were no responses until I responded.

Quite simply, if it were related to the bootloader, the problem would be widespread among users of the bootloader and users of mice. In the case brought up by another forum member, when the bootloader wasn't still fully functional, as it is now (by the way, I had something to do myself in a tiny part of its development), two users commented that Little Snitch didn't work for them when they used the loader. I never had the problem they reported, but it was conceivable the problem might be related to the loader.

Naturally, for people who didn't use Little Snitch (the case of the fellow questioning me), it was a non-issue, but, if the reports were true, it would indeed be a serious problem for other users. Eventually, I was involved in replicating the circumstances those users reported, and I finally contributed to verifying that the issue was a corrupt Little Snitch installer those people had downloaded.

 

[Obibob]

no problems

to all that have contributed on this yosemite on unsupported mac pro s
i have had my mac pro 1.1 from 2014 December
with help from this forum i have upgraded to 10.10.2 & am very happy with the performance how ever i will be up grading the ram & processors in the near future
i have had no problems with any of the guides as i am a novice to apple but very adapt with pc

 

[Hennesie2000]

2006/2007 Mac Pro (1,1/2,1) and OS X Yosemite

Look, none of this bickering is productive to the thread and just buries answers that people maybe looking for and prompts them to ask the same questions that have already been answered.

It would appear that a few people are having this issue with the mouse on more than just Mac Pros since it was reported to also be an issue on a hackintosh which would be using the stock boot.efi file.

I am not having this issue on my hackintosh running 10.10.2 using clover.

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to all that have contributed on this yosemite on unsupported mac pro s

i have had my mac pro 1.1 from 2014 December

with help from this forum i have upgraded to 10.10.2 & am very happy with the performance how ever i will be up grading the ram & processors in the near future

i have had no problems with any of the guides as i am a novice to apple but very adapt with pc

The processor upgrade is quite easy and there are many guides that cover every step. Just take your time and it is plug and play.

 

[NOTNlCE]

Troubleshooting my Xserve again -

ASSUMING that this is potentially a bootloader issue, I wanted to ask - has anyone here booted an Xserve with with the Clover method? I know the Xserve doesn't support legacy booting so something like Chameleon would be out of the question, but Clover is an EFI boot, and might solve my reboot issue. I'll give it a shot when I get home, but just wanted to see if anyone had success before me.

Thanks as always -

-N

 

[Hennesie2000]

Troubleshooting my Xserve again -



ASSUMING that this is potentially a bootloader issue, I wanted to ask - has anyone here booted an Xserve with with the Clover method? I know the Xserve doesn't support legacy booting so something like Chameleon would be out of the question, but Clover is an EFI boot, and might solve my reboot issue. I'll give it a shot when I get home, but just wanted to see if anyone had success before me.



Thanks as always -



-N

Not an Xserve but I use Clover on my UEFI hackintosh and it works great. Boot incredibly fast compared to a legacy boot.

 

[NOTNlCE]

Not an Xserve but I use Clover on my UEFI hackintosh and it works great. Boot incredibly fast compared to a legacy boot.

Yeah, I'm concerned with the limited firmware of the Xserve. I guess we'll all find out in a bit. I'm very familiar with Clover, I use it in several of my hacks. Fantastic bootloader.

 

[Antoni Nygaard]

My Mac Pro is acting strange tonight.

1. I tried opening Illustrator CC 2014 and it kept bouncing until it suddenly stopped. tried all the cc programs in the dock the only that opened was after effect. Then i thought maybe it needed Java.

2. I grabbed java from their website tried installing it and then it just hangs at Running Packages Scripts. force quitting and tried again no luck.

3. I went into Disk Utility tried and repair permission and repair disk rebooted. java still hangs still not opening adobe cc.

4. Tried resetting NVRAM still nothing tried same steps as in 3.

5. Saw the date was displaying weird and it won't let me open the preference pane. None of my 3rd-party apps are opened they are just bouncing in the dock. only apple apps are opening.

Has anyone solutions or seen anything like this before?

My specs Mac Pro 2,1 8 core
10 Gb ram
AMD 6870
Boot Drive 120gb ssd
Yosemite 10.10.2

 

[128keaton]

Having trouble making a SFOTT drive, cannot get it to boot. Glitchy blinking ? folder every time I boot . Any tips?

 

[TheRealPorkchop]

I have an issue I'd like to ask you guys about. I downloaded the installer that Hennesie uploaded (thanks again) and quickly and easily installed Yosemite onto my 2006 1,1 Pro. I've had NO issues with it at all, ran the PikeYoseFix and easily updated to 10.10.2 without any problem, been running for over 2 weeks now without any issues.

Installed it onto a friends 1,1 and all went quickly and easily. The problem came up when he cleared the PRAM. It wouldn't boot, sat at the boot screen at about 50% and would never load to the login screen. Tried several different restarts and clearing the PRAM again but that didn't help at all.

Popped the USB back in, loaded the installer and didn't format the install drive, let it do it's thing and it loaded right back to the desktop after the install was done. All of his files and such were intact also, no over-write or anything.

SO... does resetting the PRAM break something in the PikeYoseFix or what? Was it just a fluke that this happened and had nothing to do with resetting that PRAM. I never reset mine, never seen where I had a reason to but he did after installing a legit version of CS5, he said you should always clear it after installing something but I've never heard of that. Is it safe to clear it or not?

 

[Hennesie2000]

2006/2007 Mac Pro (1,1/2,1) and OS X Yosemite

I have an issue I'd like to ask you guys about. I downloaded the installer that Hennesie uploaded (thanks again) and quickly and easily installed Yosemite onto my 2006 1,1 Pro. I've had NO issues with it at all, ran the PikeYoseFix and easily updated to 10.10.2 without any problem, been running for over 2 weeks now without any issues.



Installed it onto a friends 1,1 and all went quickly and easily. The problem came up when he cleared the PRAM. It wouldn't boot, sat at the boot screen at about 50% and would never load to the login screen. Tried several different restarts and clearing the PRAM again but that didn't help at all.



Popped the USB back in, loaded the installer and didn't format the install drive, let it do it's thing and it loaded right back to the desktop after the install was done. All of his files and such were intact also, no over-write or anything.



SO... does resetting the PRAM break something in the PikeYoseFix or what? Was it just a fluke that this happened and had nothing to do with resetting that PRAM. I never reset mine, never seen where I had a reason to but he did after installing a legit version of CS5, he said you should always clear it after installing something but I've never heard of that. Is it safe to clear it or not?

It should be safe to reset but resetting it after installing something is nonsense.

This is what is stored in PRAM (NVRAM on Intel Mac's):

- Speaker volume
- Screen resolution
- Startup disk selection
- Recent kernel panic information, if any

There are a few other things like boot arguments but again nothing that would effect a third party software install.

 

[TheRealPorkchop]

It should be safe to reset but resetting it after installing something is nonsense.

This is what is stored in PRAM (NVRAM on Intel Mac's):

- Speaker volume
- Screen resolution
- Startup disk selection
- Recent kernel panic information, if any

There are a few other things like boot arguments but again nothing that would effect a third party software install.

OK so basically holding Command Option P & R is NVRAM and not PRAM, since it's Intel... And doing so should have no effect on whether or not this should boot, so it's possible it was a bad install or just a fluke?

 

[Hennesie2000]

OK so basically holding Command Option P & R is NVRAM and not PRAM, since it's Intel... And doing so should have no effect on whether or not this should boot, so it's possible it was a bad install or just a fluke?

Most likely just a fluke. I have had hangups in the past when doing a PRAM reset with Lion or SL. Sometimes just doing another one or two fixes it. Other times you have to do what you did. Installing the OS over top of itself never touches user files so it is safe to do without losing anything. Just remember that if you do that you will need to install the PikeYoseFix again before updating back to 10.10.2.

 

[TheRealPorkchop]

Most likely just a fluke. I have had hangups in the past when doing a PRAM reset with Lion or SL. Sometimes just doing another one or two fixes it. Other times you have to do what you did. Installing the OS over top of itself never touches user files so it is safe to do without losing anything. Just remember that if you do that you will need to install the PikeYoseFix again before updating back to 10.10.2.

Yea, I checked the installed version and it was 10.10 so I knew I had to install that fix again if I was going to update it to 10.10.2 without issues.

I'm assuming 10.10.3 will be released soon, I also assume that when it does the Fix will cover it as well. I'm very tempted to do exactly as you've done, build a hackintosh into my Mac chassis to hopefully avoid future problems like this.

 

[Antoni Nygaard]

My Mac Pro is acting strange tonight.

1. I tried opening Illustrator CC 2014 and it kept bouncing until it suddenly stopped. tried all the cc programs in the dock the only that opened was after effect. Then i thought maybe it needed Java.

2. I grabbed java from their website tried installing it and then it just hangs at Running Packages Scripts. force quitting and tried again no luck.

3. I went into Disk Utility tried and repair permission and repair disk rebooted. java still hangs still not opening adobe cc.

4. Tried resetting NVRAM still nothing tried same steps as in 3.

5. Saw the date was displaying weird and it won't let me open the preference pane. None of my 3rd-party apps are opened they are just bouncing in the dock. only apple apps are opening.

Has anyone solutions or seen anything like this before?

My specs Mac Pro 2,1 8 core
10 Gb ram
AMD 6870
Boot Drive 120gb ssd
Yosemite 10.10.2

I fixed it myself # In some weird way in the region settings it was set to United States (I live in Denmark) and that messed it up. Java installs adobe CC open now and other 3rd party apps.

 

[Hennesie2000]

Yea, I checked the installed version and it was 10.10 so I knew I had to install that fix again if I was going to update it to 10.10.2 without issues.



I'm assuming 10.10.3 will be released soon, I also assume that when it does the Fix will cover it as well. I'm very tempted to do exactly as you've done, build a hackintosh into my Mac chassis to hopefully avoid future problems like this.

I didn't built a hackintosh in my Mac Pro case. It doesn't have any of the standard mounts or IO port openings so it requires cutting and modding the case.

 

[iPhonePunker]

Mac Pro 1.1 on Yosemite

So I've been using the Yosemite on my Mac Pro 1.1 since release thanks to SFOTT beta ran into one problem in installation quickly figured out that using the Startup Disk in system Pref's and not using the ALT boot it would boot straight into the installer no problem.
now there has been a long standing issue with the audio jack on the back my problem is it works in windows but not OSX 10.10 or 10.10.1 i haven't yet tried 10.10.2 so currently for sound im using the front audio jack witch dosent look very appealing to be honest but I'll be buying a sound card so that should solve that issue.
I was able to do a straight update from the App Store for 10.10 to 10.10.1 which was pretty amazing usually I'm use to making a new patched OS for and updates but yea just updates as normal great job on that one.
I got curios with GPU's recently and with the Nvidia GTX 900 series been realest i thought it was a perfect time to upgrade from my old two EVGA GTX 660 2GB SC to something a bit beefier so I bought a EVGA GTX 980 SC 4GB card and 1st problem i ran into in 10.10 i couldn't get the HDMI to work but in windows work perfectly so I'v decided to stick with the DVI to HDMI no noticeable loose of quality in games but not really my first choose and i don't have any display cables so i cant test to see if they work but anyways the main stuff works full CUDA support the Nvidia Drivers work fully but i think they are under-clocking the card cause games that work amazingly in window 8.1 in 4k (bootcamp) struggle with 1080p in OS X.
since the GPU upgrade tearing in launchpad has totally disappeared everything is so smooth

so would I still recommend the BETA absolutely in a hart beat even though its in beta and the problems I've run into I has totally beard new life in my Mac Pro 1.1 and its brilliant to see people try and figure out how a Machine form 2006 can even Handle the 980 let alone out 4k games at 60-80 FPS and all my games are maxed settings

http://www.modsrigs.com/detail.aspx?BuildID=34609

 

[Jayson A]

I hope this helps someone in here, but I found out today that the scrolling speed problem I was having is not related to running Yosemite on an unsupported Mac. It's a Yosemite problem.

I installed the official Yosemite 10.10.2 on a brand new Mac Pro at work and it does the same exact thing with the Mighty Mouse.

 

[MacVidCards]

I hope this helps someone in here, but I found out today that the scrolling speed problem I was having is not related to running Yosemite on an unsupported Mac. It's a Yosemite problem.

I installed the official Yosemite 10.10.2 on a brand new Mac Pro at work and it does the same exact thing with the Mighty Mouse.

I thought I mentioned it did same on 5,1.

Definitely nothing related to 1,1/2,1 only.

 

[Hennesie2000]

I thought I mentioned it did same on 5,1.

Definitely nothing related to 1,1/2,1 only.

Yes so it appears I was mistaken, I do have this issue with that mouse on both of my Hackintoshes. I just don't use my other Hack where it is hooked up very often and I keep it set on the fastest scrolling speed anyways. My normal mouse is a R.A.T. 7.

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so would I still recommend the BETA absolutely in a hart beat even though its in beta and the problems I've run into I has totally beard new life in my Mac Pro 1.1 and its brilliant to see people try and figure out how a Machine form 2006 can even Handle the 980 let alone out 4k games at 60-80 FPS and all my games are maxed settings

http://www.modsrigs.com/detail.aspx?BuildID=34609

What games are you running at 4K and getting 60-80FPS? If you are referring to your benchmark score that was not a 4K pass.

 

[jaxparo]

I have an issue I'd like to ask you guys about. I downloaded the installer that Hennesie uploaded (thanks again) and quickly and easily installed Yosemite onto my 2006 1,1 Pro. I've had NO issues with it at all, ran the PikeYoseFix and easily updated to 10.10.2 without any problem, been running for over 2 weeks now without any issues.

Installed it onto a friends 1,1 and all went quickly and easily. The problem came up when he cleared the PRAM. It wouldn't boot, sat at the boot screen at about 50% and would never load to the login screen. Tried several different restarts and clearing the PRAM again but that didn't help at all.

Popped the USB back in, loaded the installer and didn't format the install drive, let it do it's thing and it loaded right back to the desktop after the install was done. All of his files and such were intact also, no over-write or anything.

SO... does resetting the PRAM break something in the PikeYoseFix or what? Was it just a fluke that this happened and had nothing to do with resetting that PRAM. I never reset mine, never seen where I had a reason to but he did after installing a legit version of CS5, he said you should always clear it after installing something but I've never heard of that. Is it safe to clear it or not?

Same problem, boot stalls exactly halfway on progress bar. I used bootable USB installer on fresh HD, then imported my older Mavericks system/~user upon initial reboot. It took 6+ hours to import the old system, and then upon reboot it stalls at the halfway point every time. I've tried Safe Boot, still stalls. Seems like system is up & running, I have a cursor that moves, and after 5 minutes Flurry screensaver starts normally, but otherwise I'm stuck on the grey screen with progress bar halfway.

I checked the Pike boot.efi files were correct, and installed the PikeFix from my Mavericks system, but it still stalls halfway.

I'm on a MacPro 1,1 with 2,1 firmware and a Radeon HD 7750 that's a blind boot until the grey screen, so I can't use verbose boot. Resetting PRAM doesn't help, but sometimes it does multiple boots (i.e. chimes again midway of a blind boot). Any ideas on how to progress?

 

[Hennesie2000]

2006/2007 Mac Pro (1,1/2,1) and OS X Yosemite

Same problem, boot stalls exactly halfway on progress bar. I used bootable USB installer on fresh HD, then imported my older Mavericks system/~user upon initial reboot. It took 6+ hours to import the old system, and then upon reboot it stalls at the halfway point every time. I've tried Safe Boot, still stalls. Seems like system is up & running, I have a cursor that moves, and after 5 minutes Flurry screensaver starts normally, but otherwise I'm stuck on the grey screen with progress bar halfway.



I checked the Pike boot.efi files were correct, and installed the PikeFix from my Mavericks system, but it still stalls halfway.



I'm on a MacPro 1,1 with 2,1 firmware and a Radeon HD 7750 that's a blind boot until the grey screen, so I can't use verbose boot. Resetting PRAM doesn't help, but sometimes it does multiple boots (i.e. chimes again midway of a blind boot). Any ideas on how to progress?

Do you have a login screen normally? Where you can start typing in your password? I have a feeling that your card it's not initializing all the way. I experienced this a few times when I was running a GTX 570. I could VNC into the system just fine and then reboot and all would be well. Try typing in your password if you can when you get top the black screen and hit enter. See if you get to your desktop then.

 

[TheRealPorkchop]

Same problem, boot stalls exactly halfway on progress bar. I used bootable USB installer on fresh HD, then imported my older Mavericks system/~user upon initial reboot. It took 6+ hours to import the old system, and then upon reboot it stalls at the halfway point every time. I've tried Safe Boot, still stalls. Seems like system is up & running, I have a cursor that moves, and after 5 minutes Flurry screensaver starts normally, but otherwise I'm stuck on the grey screen with progress bar halfway.

I checked the Pike boot.efi files were correct, and installed the PikeFix from my Mavericks system, but it still stalls halfway.

I'm on a MacPro 1,1 with 2,1 firmware and a Radeon HD 7750 that's a blind boot until the grey screen, so I can't use verbose boot. Resetting PRAM doesn't help, but sometimes it does multiple boots (i.e. chimes again midway of a blind boot). Any ideas on how to progress?

I downloaded Hennessie's pre-patched installer. I've had no issues with it, only had issue with the install on a friends machine after he reset PRAM/NVRAM and that's when it hung up at about 50%. Otherwise, both installs seem to function 100% or near that considering the other issues such as hand-off.

Installation and booting is rather simple if you just download his installer, restore it to a good quality USB thumb drive and install to a clean hard drive. I'd suggest you make sure the drive you're installing to doesn't have issues to start with. My Pro has an Apple ATI 5770 but my friend has a flashed 8800GT. Both machines are installed on OWC SSD drive

 

[chackett]

Same problem, boot stalls exactly halfway on progress bar. I used bootable USB installer on fresh HD, then imported my older Mavericks system/~user upon initial reboot. It took 6+ hours to import the old system, and then upon reboot it stalls at the halfway point every time. I've tried Safe Boot, still stalls. Seems like system is up & running, I have a cursor that moves, and after 5 minutes Flurry screensaver starts normally, but otherwise I'm stuck on the grey screen with progress bar halfway.

I checked the Pike boot.efi files were correct, and installed the PikeFix from my Mavericks system, but it still stalls halfway.

I'm on a MacPro 1,1 with 2,1 firmware and a Radeon HD 7750 that's a blind boot until the grey screen, so I can't use verbose boot. Resetting PRAM doesn't help, but sometimes it does multiple boots (i.e. chimes again midway of a blind boot). Any ideas on how to progress?

This is a bit of a long shot, but I had a similar issue where the Mac would reboot about halfway through the startup sequence, and then proceed with a normal boot from that point forward. I finally found that deleting the BootCaches.plist file (/usr/standalone/bootcaches.plist) eliminated this issue. Found the fix on a forum for computer lab admins who were having this boot freeze issue on (some) machines after upgrading to Yosemite.

 

[jaxparo]

Same problem, boot stalls exactly halfway on progress bar. I used bootable USB installer on fresh HD, then imported my older Mavericks system/~user upon initial reboot. It took 6+ hours to import the old system, and then upon reboot it stalls at the halfway point every time. I've tried Safe Boot, still stalls. Seems like system is up & running, I have a cursor that moves, and after 5 minutes Flurry screensaver starts normally, but otherwise I'm stuck on the grey screen with progress bar halfway.

I checked the Pike boot.efi files were correct, and installed the PikeFix from my Mavericks system, but it still stalls halfway.

I'm on a MacPro 1,1 with 2,1 firmware and a Radeon HD 7750 that's a blind boot until the grey screen, so I can't use verbose boot. Resetting PRAM doesn't help, but sometimes it does multiple boots (i.e. chimes again midway of a blind boot). Any ideas on how to progress?

OK, I'll partially answer my own question. The problem with the stall halfway was found by looking at the system log file in var/log/system.log. There were two launch agents that weren't loading and were respawning every 10 seconds for infinity. They were both located in System/Library/LaunchAgents/ and one was called com.Apple.cvmsCompAgent_x86_64, I forgot the other, something like mdworker. I deleted these and the boot completed, but, the Setup Assistant was running asking for "Time Zone" but wouldn't respond to any input. I copied the Time Zone preferences from the old system, and also copied .applesetupdone to private/var/db. Now it booted to the login window, but stalled when the password was entered with eternal spinning. The system.log wasn't helpful for the cause of this stall, so I wiped and reinstalled a fresh system, but instead of using Migration Assistant for another 7 hours of wait, I made a new user which was perfect. I installed PikeYoseFix and rebooted, then ran Software Update and it updated to 10.10.2, and never booted successfully again. The correct boot.efi files were present, but in System/Library/CoreServices/ the PlatformSupport.plist was missing the board & model #'s, and so was the InstallableMachines.plist, so it appears that PikeYoseFix did NOT work for upgrading from 10.10.1 which was perfect, to 10.10.2. Even after I manually checked all the files I knew about, it still never booted, and I blessed the System manually also, which was shown in Startup Disk as bootable, so that didn't appear to be the issue. Now I'm going to "start over" a 3rd time.