Resolved 2006/2007 Mac Pro (1,1/2,1) and OS X Yosemite

[jbarley]

Long shot but...
Try starting while pressing the "C" key, this has been reported to work for USB flash drives in many cases.

 

[Ant3000]

Hello , im trying to get yosemite on my mac pro 1,1 I do all the steps I create a SFOTT usb when i restart my computer and hold down the option key nothing come up ? anyone help me out please

Do you mean you don't see any boot screen (your boot drive and any other OS versions you have installed) or just the USB isn't showing up?

 

[gogoi-92]

Do you mean you don't see any boot screen (your boot drive and any other OS versions you have installed) or just the USB isn't showing up?

just the usb isn't showing up at all

 

[Ant3000]

If you can see a boot screen with your existing HD with whatever version of OSX your are running but NOT the USB I would guess the installer hasn't been created properly. I tried for ages with SFOTT but only ever got it to work with Mavericks - but I am sure others have had success with it. I used the pre patched installer of Yosemite hosted on Mega and it work OK for me.

 

[gogoi-92]

If you can see a boot screen with your existing HD with whatever version of OSX your are running but NOT the USB I would guess the installer hasn't been created properly. I tried for ages with SFOTT but only ever got it to work with Mavericks - but I am sure others have had success with it. I used the pre patched installer of Yosemite hosted on Mega and it work OK for me.

I will try that option

 

[Ant3000]

Do a search on this thread for MEGA info but this may help...#4032
Not the one I used, but also seems to work - there are potential issues with none Apple versions of installers as they may have been compromised but the victims would be so few I doubt anyone would bother. But it's ultimately your risk.
SFOTT will build installer using a fresh App Store copy - when it works.

 

[b-boyben]

Hey everyone,
I'm getting ready to try this thing for the first time on my MP1.1 but just want to be entirely clear on this. Please believe me, I have read for hours from post #1 through to the 600s when you cracked it and beyond. I've downloaded the pre-patched Piker-Alpha bootable Yosemite installer (worked fine for me after waiting during a pause at 500mb), ordered two new 2gig memory cards to replace my current 512s (although there seems to be some disagreement whether those are a problem or not), restored the installer to an 8gig flash drive… so I'm ready to try it. But one question remains. If I'm using this patch, do I still need to follow Hennesie's guide or is it just a one time thing, all done for me? That's the impression I'm getting… that the instructions are only if you are working with the boot.efi directly. I just want to be sure before I proceed… seems to easy!
Thanks,

 

[Ant3000]

If it is pre patched the boot efi files will have been changed already BUT you should install PikeYoseFix which will protect the changed files when you update the software (or at least it should). Without doing this some updates can change the files and you have to replace them manually. I think the 512s were more of an issue with El Capitan and the installer creation but nothing is harmed by changing them and more RAM is better. I always installed onto a fresh drive so as to keep the older OS separate should I have any issues during or after installation. Good luck!

 

[b-boyben]

If it is pre patched the boot efi files will have been changed already BUT you should install PikeYoseFix which will protect the changed files when you update the software (or at least it should). Without doing this some updates can change the files and you have to replace them manually. I think the 512s were more of an issue with El Capitan and the installer creation but nothing is harmed by changing them and more RAM is better. I always installed onto a fresh drive so as to keep the older OS separate should I have any issues during or after installation. Good luck!

Thanks dude. That's what I figured. I am a little nervous about using my current boot disc as it's not even partitioned (and it won't partition now as it's the boot). Maybe I'll just go ahead and order a new one to be sure. Memory and storage is so cheap nowadays! Which - as everyone in this discussion knows - makes it all the more frustrating that Apple have decided to price themselves out of the pc market by pushing absurdly expensive new Mac Pros that nobody needs/can afford. Sorry... I couldn't resist a dig at them!

 

[Ant3000]

Why not throw in an SSD? - I have a Samsung 850EVO 1TB and it is really quick to boot and makes the whole machine seem much faster. 1TB is a bit over the top but price was good when I bought it. A smaller drive will work just as well and will save a few £. I am with you on Apple's current strategy to shaft the loyal 'pro' users who have supported them over the bad times by ignoring their desire for powerful machines. Any reason you are installing Yosemite and not El Capitan? There is a similar thread to this with lots of info.

 

[gogoi-92]

hey folks ! i just got 8 gigs of ram from ebay . I will have 18 gigs of ram on 1,1 with 5770 video card running 10.7 . Yose will not work cant get a boot usb to work so im trying el capitan since i have a usb thats bootable hopefully it works soon I had yose before 10.9.4 but had 10 gigs of ram and crashed . I'd like to get yose but can't seem to get a good os. where do you guys get your os from app store wont help not longer available

 

[jbarley]

Sent you a personal message...

 

[b-boyben]

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Why not throw in an SSD? - I have a Samsung 850EVO 1TB and it is really quick to boot and makes the whole machine seem much faster. 1TB is a bit over the top but price was good when I bought it. A smaller drive will work just as well and will save a few £. I am with you on Apple's current strategy to shaft the loyal 'pro' users who have supported them over the bad times by ignoring their desire for powerful machines. Any reason you are installing Yosemite and not El Capitan? There is a similar thread to this with lots of info.

I'm thinking of trying Yosemite as I have a Adobe CS3 and am hoping it's still going to work. There are things (mostly internet-based) that don't work and I'd like to update but I'm trying to strike a balance at the same time. If anyone can tell me that CS3 will work on El Capitan then maybe I'll move up to that. New 1TB hard disk just arrived today - at $40 I'm happy with that over an SSD at twice or more that price - so I'm about to do this thing!

 

[b-boyben]

Whoop Whoop!!! Coming to you from 10.10 So far so good
Yose fix is done and twice restarted so let's see if I can do some updates too.

I cannot thank y'all enough. AWESOME.

 

[Ant3000]

Great - I have CS6 running OK on El Cap and it also ran OK on Yosemite . Couple of issues that don't affect things too much and are well documented online. Hope it all works well. I know what you mean about price of SSD compared to spinning drive. I initially added a 250gb SSD as a boot drive and then stored files I wasn't working on onto the spinning drive and that worked OK and was really fast. Larger drive just makes things a bit easier to manage and by that point I was well into tuning my Mac to get the last bit of use out of it. New CPUs, upgraded GPU and more RAM etc.

 

[b-boyben]

Ok, so it was too good to be true! After a couple of days of trouble-free Yosemite suddenly it just won't boot. Except it will...

If I start up/restart normally it seems to have trouble (grey screen, apple never appears) and instead reverts to my 10.7 system, which I still have on another 1tb drive in bay 2. I did a fresh install of 10.10 on a new 1tb drive (bay 3) so I can go back and forth as needed. I hope doing that hasn't somehow compromised 10.10. I went back to it a couple of times to get iCal to backup so I could restore it in 10.10 where iCloud had somehow screwed up all my calendars.

I tried booting in safe mode but it does the same thing (just boots 10.7 in safe mode). I tried Recovery mode... same deal. Funny thing is though, if I hold down Option to select the disc it offers me Recovery HD and Recovery 10.3 as options (not sure why 10.3 as version is updated to 10.10.5) and clicking on either one of them results in a normal boot into Yosemite. Everything seems fine once I'm in.

I was having a few permissions/keychain issues but they seem to be sorted now. I did a permissions repair in DU... a lot of repairs! Only one error was this if it means anything:

Warning: SUID file “System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent” has been modified and will not be repaired.

I guess I can just hold Option every time I start up if I have to, but any suggestions as to the problem and how to fix it would be appreciated.

 

[Ant3000]

Have you tried manually selecting the startup drive in system preferences? I have had the odd time (perhaps after an update) where it reverted to an earlier OS and reselecting the OS in system prefs seemed to fix it.

This may also be useful...
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT203172

 

[F00l_0n_the_h1ll2]

First great thanks to piker-alpha, Mr. Zarniwoop, rthpjm, 666sheep and all the others who are the masterminds behind all this and kept this post alive.

So after reading each and every relevant post several times - i decided to go for it.

My MacPro2,1 (was 1,1) has a special configuration - main boot drives are 2 SSD´s (each 240GB) on the odd ports (2nd DVD-slot- 5 &6), all 4 HDD Slot´s are occupied. RAM consists of 6 x 4GB wavers and 2 x 1GB wavers, all OWC in total 26GB.
Graphic-Card update was not as easy, as it seemed. There were issues with supported cards not showing timemachine-windows, i-photo, VLC.
The prepatched dl from post #1 did not work for me. Therefore i gained Yosemite installers from 2 different supported machines , just to be sure. I also used 2 different USB sicks to install Yosemite on a small partition of an internal HDD. The second USB-Stick worked. I replaced the boot efi files manually via terminal on the USB stick and also the supportedmachines.plist first.
Finally I had to partition one of my SSD´d cause it first contained the user(s) under Lion - this configuration was very snappy. Then i cloned the yosemite installation of the HDD with CCC onto the SSD, which worked perfectly. i installed YosePikeFix and rebooted twice. After applying some updates, system profiler is reporting 10.10.6. Everything works perfect now. I´m currently writing from my yosemite SSD startup-disk.

My MacPro is now good for another 5 years. The good news are: in my machine WiFi and bluetooth worked from the very beginning. I also did not have to call apple support to get icloud running. It just worked out of the box!
Can´t post screenshots in the moment, because it seems there are some permission-issues with the shared folder. Will get that sorted out and post later.

The strange thing is, that i can´t boot into the Yosemite HDD, which was the primary install. But i personally don´t care that much, because i could boot to the USB installer anytime to install it again.

I also have El Capitan installed on a 120GB partition of my second SSD and it boots flawlessly, but there are way more than half of the SSD space just consumed by "other" - not visible to the finder. The whole installation including the users emigrated with migration-assistant had less than 40GB and shows as such in finder. For me it´s understandable for several reasons, that there are in total 3 El Capitan installer apps summing up to 16,5GB in the 3 relevant locations, to prevent overwriting due to an update and guarantie but where have the other >45GB gone???
I cannot savely run El Capitan on a SSD, that has less than 20% of free space.
Anybody got any ideas, what consumed that 45GB of invisible space?

Nevertheless i am totally happy to have yosemite running on my 10 years old MacPro (8x3Ghz Processors) and being very satisfied to have a save system again. It was also not possible to update AdobeFlash, Browsers (except firefox!) or other programms like itunes under Lion. After moving to Yosemite I was also able to update my iPhone 4S (64GB) to ios 9.3.5, which was indispensable, because that one (IOS 7.1.3) was hacked in a open wlan on a vacation in Croatia before.

i´d like to get to El Capitan, because this could potentially give me another 3 years of security-updates and programms/apps updates.
Cheers

 

[jbarley]

Anybody got any ideas, what consumed that 45GB of invisible space?

Maybe check this out...
From the Finder menubar-Go-Go to Folder, then enter "/private/var/vm/",
do you have a SleepImage file, if so how large is it?
This file on a Desktop system can usually be removed to regain the disk space.

 

[F00l_0n_the_h1ll2]

Maybe check this out...
From the Finder menubar-Go-Go to Folder, then enter "/private/var/vm/",
do you have a SleepImage file, if so how large is it?

Thx for your quick reply, but vm is empty. I also did ls -lah in terminal - the result is in the attached file.

In the meantime i´ve solved the issue myself. It turned out to be more trivial, than imaginable - it was an additional user, that i migrated without knowledge and recognition. What i learned was that finder is only showing the size of a folder (even the user), that it belongs to. So you don´t see the size of an other users folders.
At least i got about 50GB back, which enables me to use my El Capitan installation.
Thanks again for all the hard work this community has done and the patience to explain the process over and over to help people, that had troubles.

 

[VanneDC]

ok having a bit of an issue, installed Yosemite (pikes installer) and installed fine. albeit GPU is very slow as stated previously in this thread. Ive tried to update using the combo update to 10.10.5, but it just resets everything back to 10.10.

anyways, i have an Nvidia GTX 285 proper mac card from my MP 3,1 i had previously, which has the efi64 bit rom on there obviously, is there anyway i can get this working on the cMP 1,1?

Ive tried downloading the Nvidia web driver for this card for 10.10, but upon trying to install the driver package, it says "Not for this computer", will the card work without installing any additional drivers?

Cheers, so my question is 2 fold, how to update to 10.10.5 AND will my gtx MAC 285 card work in this box?

cheers

 

[hlaker]

Hi guys

Great thread and really appreciate the hard work everyone has put into this. I apologise if this has already been raised but I just wanted to check something out. Currently wishing to upgrade my Mac Pro 1 1 to Yosemite. Decided that the easiest route is to download and install the pre-patched Piker-Alpha bootable Yosemite installer via USB boot disc.

I've noticed a few guys on here saying that the pre-patched Yosemite is no longer available, most likely due to apple requesting it to be removed. I found the following link:
https://mega.nz/#!q1IRFJzK!GUinePUGF3jAAu3oUym-GHBC9doWRTU1p6nnkXkJFdQ

However, have had no luck getting this to install on my machine. Can build a boot disc fine, but when I try to boot from it, my system just reverts back to the original OS. I'm now trying to work back to where the problem may be. One possible scenario is that the above download link is for a straight copy of Yosemite, hence why it won't work on my machine.

Can anyone confirm whether that link is legit and if not signpost me to a patched version of Yosemite that I can install. Failing that if there's anything I'm missing here or advice that could be offered, I would really appreciate it. A lot of this stuff is new to me, but if I try hard enough, I should be able to get my head around it in time.

Thanks

 

[b-boyben]

Hi guys

Great thread and really appreciate the hard work everyone has put into this. I apologise if this has already been raised but I just wanted to check something out. Currently wishing to upgrade my Mac Pro 1 1 to Yosemite. Decided that the easiest route is to download and install the pre-patched Piker-Alpha bootable Yosemite installer via USB boot disc.

I've noticed a few guys on here saying that the pre-patched Yosemite is no longer available, most likely due to apple requesting it to be removed. I found the following link:
https://mega.nz/#!q1IRFJzK!GUinePUGF3jAAu3oUym-GHBC9doWRTU1p6nnkXkJFdQ

However, have had no luck getting this to install on my machine. Can build a boot disc fine, but when I try to boot from it, my system just reverts back to the original OS. I'm now trying to work back to where the problem may be. One possible scenario is that the above download link is for a straight copy of Yosemite, hence why it won't work on my machine.

Can anyone confirm whether that link is legit and if not signpost me to a patched version of Yosemite that I can install. Failing that if there's anything I'm missing here or advice that could be offered, I would really appreciate it. A lot of this stuff is new to me, but if I try hard enough, I should be able to get my head around it in time.

Thanks

Sounds like you and I are having a similar problem - See my post above #4316 - however I did manage to get it up and running so can confirm that the Mega link is valid. You hit a 5gig free download limit but if you wait it will eventually continue. I turned off sleep so my Mac stayed on all night. I can imagine if it goes to sleep that could break the download.

I then did a clean install from a USB flash drive - rather than an upgrade - on a blank 1TB drive. Problem now is it reverts to my other system when I boot, regardless of how many times I tell it to boot from the new drive. I would recommend trying a clean install on new hard drive - they are so cheap nowadays. I'm still hoping someone has a fix for my boot problem... again, see my post #4316 for more info.
Thanks,
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Have you tried manually selecting the startup drive in system preferences? I have had the odd time (perhaps after an update) where it reverted to an earlier OS and reselecting the OS in system prefs seemed to fix it.

This may also be useful...
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT203172

Thanks Ant, my error was listed in there so that's reassuring. I did select the new disc in SysPrefs numerous times but it always reverts. I guess I'll try physically removing the old disc from the Mac so it has no choice and cross my fingers that it forces it to boot into the new one.

 

[VanneDC]

Yep mine also installed fine from that image. And works fine.. so image def works. Mind however after installing the combo update to 10.10.5 from the app store pretty much makes the drive unsee-able. So can't boot.

Hmm.. any ideas guys?

 

[b-boyben]

Hi all,

Many thanks for this great thread. Having a fully loaded MacPro 2,1 and with most software that I use now requiring 10.8 or above, this was a life-saver.

I have been using 10.10.1 for a few weeks and followed the instructions to the letter to upgrade to 10.10.2 (I am fairly computer literate) and still got a folder with question mark on boot after the 10.10.2 upgrade! Fortunately, I kept the USB stick and have now fixed it. For anyone else with the amended USB Yosemite installer, here is what I did. (listed every step so hopefully even people without computer skills can follow):

1) Insert USB stick and turn on Mac, the mac automatically booted from the USB stick

2) Click continue on mouse/keyboard (if using bluetooth), select language and continue to the screen where you get the utilities menu bar, select Terminal from the utilities menu and terminal should open

3) In terminal type:

chflags nouchg /Volumes/System/Library/CoreServices/boot.efi

and press return.
notes:
This removes flags in the locked file.
Do not use sudo in any of these commands, it will error.
Replace "System" in the above text string (and the following text strings) with the name of your boot drive, I use the name System as my boot drive so it works. If you need to find out the name of your Hard Drive use the following code first

ls /Volumes

4) In terminal type:

cp Library/CoreServices/boot.efi /Volumes/System/Library/CoreServices/boot.efi

and press return.

5) In terminal type:

cp Library/CoreServices/boot.efi /Volumes/System/usr/standalone/i386/boot.efi

and press return.

6) In terminal type:

chflags uchg /Volumes/System/Library/CoreServices/boot.efi

and press return.
notes:
This puts back the flag to lock the file.

7) You just need to reboot and all should hopefully be OK, just type

reboot

in terminal and press return.

Alright so I've checked the time stamps on the boot.efi files in the relevant folders and they are current, so Pike's fix appears to be working but evidently something has got corrupted anyway. Having read more and more (and more!) of this thread (man it's long) it appears this is not unusual so I'm going to try the above-quoted unlock and replace the boot.efi files fix.