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2009 Mac Pro in hand - unboxing etc.
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Exactly! The multi-core implementation in most 'pro apps' is shocking. Logic is is one of the worst offenders.
Software is the limiting factor these days. The top end 2009 mac pro is wasted on about 98%* of current software, even the stuff that claims it's optimised for multi-cores!
*ok that's a made-up statistic but it must be close
Here's my 2007 3.0GHz Octad if there's anything worth contributing:
Rendering (Single CPU): 3245
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 18885
Multiprocessor Speedup: 5.82
@PowerPaw, can you please extrapolate your chart to include the 2007 3.0GHz Octad...?
Thanks.
Exactly! The multi-core implementation in most 'pro apps' is shocking. Logic is is one of the worst offenders.
Software is the limiting factor these days. The top end 2009 mac pro is wasted on about 98%* of current software, even the stuff that claims it's optimised for multi-cores!
*ok that's a made-up statistic but it must be close
not if it's BOINC or other forms of distributive/grid computing...
not if it's BOINC or other forms of distributive/grid computing...
Don't get me wrong. There's a few apps out there that squeeze every last bit of juice out of the latest and greatest multi-core processors but for every optimised app there's a ton of apps that wouldn't know what to do with an additional core if it slapped it in the face.
Here's my 2007 3.0GHz Octad if there's anything worth contributing:
Rendering (Single CPU): 3245
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 18885
Multiprocessor Speedup: 5.82
@PowerPaw, can you please extrapolate your chart to include the 2007 3.0GHz Octad...?
Thanks.
Cinebench R10 for the 2006 Woodcrest 2x4 3.0GHZ Original Octo
CINEBENCH R10
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Tester : (2,1) 2006 Octo - Mason
Processor : 2x4 3.0Ghz Woodcrest
MHz : 3.0ghz
Number of CPUs : 8
Operating System : OS X 32 BIT 10.5.6
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Rendering (Single CPU): 3225 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 18429 CB-CPU
Multiprocessor Speedup: 5.71
Shading (OpenGL Standard) : 5606 CB-GFX
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Sorry, I admit my error!
Just tested - "HT off" results in 15% (far from 100%) performance gain vs "HT on", at least in Cinebench.
In the past, I notice that Brazil in 3DSMax render faster with 1 thread w/o HT than 1 thread w HT and decided "by eye" that it is faster approx. twice. It was mistake.
May be HT in Gainestown works other way?
If I had one of those 2.26 machines I think I'd probably buy a dual socket 1366 board when they come out and the OC the hell out of those little chips. Of course, that new case would need some re-working...
Here's my 2007 3.0GHz Octad if there's anything worth contributing:
Rendering (Single CPU): 3245
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 18885
Multiprocessor Speedup: 5.82
@PowerPaw, can you please extrapolate your chart to include the 2007 3.0GHz Octad...?
Thanks.
Here you go - this really is making no sense...
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Awesome mac
This mac is great. Enjoy!!!!
I just ordered 8 core 2.26, 14 gig ram, 2 tera HD, radeon 4870, 2 18x superdrives
The 8 gig RAM upgrade and 1 extra terabyte HD was ordered from OWC for only $250!!!!!
I highly recommend these types of upgrades to get the most out of this awesome machine
This mac is great. Enjoy!!!!
I just ordered 8 core 2.26, 14 gig ram, 2 tera HD, radeon 4870, 2 18x superdrives
The 8 gig RAM upgrade and 1 extra terabyte HD was ordered from OWC for only $250!!!!!
I highly recommend these types of upgrades to get the most out of this awesome machine
It's not. Sounds like he is buying 6 X 2GB (12GB) and keeping 2 of the 1GB sticks it comes with (14GB). Math is hard...
benchmark with maxwell
Hi everyone,
Try maxwellrender for benchmarking.
It's a 3d rendering software that I bet that will make a huge difference with the multi-threading system.
http://www.benchwell.com/
I think you will need a demo, you can find it here -
http://www.maxwellrender.com/
Hi everyone,
Try maxwellrender for benchmarking.
It's a 3d rendering software that I bet that will make a huge difference with the multi-threading system.
http://www.benchwell.com/
I think you will need a demo, you can find it here -
http://www.maxwellrender.com/
Great to see the Geekbench and Cinebench results for the 2009 Mac Pro.
In case you want to add it to your list, I have Geekbench 64 bit results for our 'early 2008' Mac Pro 3.2GHz produced a 64 bit score of 10347
(which makes the 17665 rating of WonderSausage's 2.93GHz Nehalem 71% faster for this benchmark).
And our Cinebench 10 'multiple CPU' rating is 21354
(which makes the 25644 rating of WonderSausage's 2.93GHz Nehalem 20% faster for this benchmark).
In case you want to add it to your list, I have Geekbench 64 bit results for our 'early 2008' Mac Pro 3.2GHz produced a 64 bit score of 10347
(which makes the 17665 rating of WonderSausage's 2.93GHz Nehalem 71% faster for this benchmark).
And our Cinebench 10 'multiple CPU' rating is 21354
(which makes the 25644 rating of WonderSausage's 2.93GHz Nehalem 20% faster for this benchmark).
I just wanna see the thing setup and running.. Don't need all the tech specs...
nice machine though..
nice machine though..
6x2GB is $220 at OWC which leaves $30 for the 1TB hard drive. Being pessimistic, I would conjecture that they went for 4x2GB ($150) and forgot to correlate this with the number of available slots.
I doubt it's anything to do with Grand Central. It sounds more
like GPU-based decoding.
Honestly, people talk about Snow Leopard as if it's going to be
some miracle OS. Some people hereabout (not necessarily you)
should bear these in mind:
(a) Snow Leopard won't turn a single threaded application into
some super optimized multi-threaded app.
(b) Some of the advantages will require recoding. Companies
such as Adobe have been slow to use Mac-specific APIs (e.g.,
Core Image), so don't get your hopes up.
According to what I have read on the Adobe Forums, Grand Central was not intended for Pro applications like Photoshop. It was intended for applications with simpler requirements. In order for the Pro applications to work with multiple cores, they will still have to be coded by the programmers as they have been up to this point.
Jim
Jim
It should be possible to run any number of DIMMs (1-8) with any mix of capacity aslong as they are all of the same type.