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iM 4,1-14,4 2011 iMac Graphics Card Upgrade
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Astounding results with the WX 4130 using @internetzel's VBIOS, though my 'Power Secondary Heatsink' temperature is suddenly very high (94C) and my frame is very hot to the touch, almost burning. I don't believe my machine was getting this hot before, perhaps I have harmed something inside the machine.
I've added this to the Google Form spreadsheet, it seems with VBIOS tweaks we are getting closer and closer to the AMD scores we were anticipating.
EDIT: Power Supply temperatures have come down since I ran this benchmark, may have been my ambient temps were too high (30C last night!) when I ran this and the PSU was choking for air.
I've added this to the Google Form spreadsheet, it seems with VBIOS tweaks we are getting closer and closer to the AMD scores we were anticipating.
EDIT: Power Supply temperatures have come down since I ran this benchmark, may have been my ambient temps were too high (30C last night!) when I ran this and the PSU was choking for air.
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Hi guys,
Just flashed a HP Quadro K1100m 2GB with the CH431a programmer and Nicks vbios.
It was a struggle mainly due to the clip not fitting (and me not knowing, this being my first experience with the programmer) but was pretty sure I succeeded at last.
Upon installation in my 2010 27", I have boot screen on the first reboot after resetting PRAM.
But since, theres no boot screen, I don't get a picture until the drivers are loading (.. I think; approx. half way through load bar).
Restting PRAM again brings back boot screen for the first boot. From second boot, again no boot screen.
Any ideas..?
NB I used Nicks vbios to flash a Quadro K2100m, flashed that card from Windows/Bootcamp and is working perfect.
Just flashed a HP Quadro K1100m 2GB with the CH431a programmer and Nicks vbios.
It was a struggle mainly due to the clip not fitting (and me not knowing, this being my first experience with the programmer) but was pretty sure I succeeded at last.
Upon installation in my 2010 27", I have boot screen on the first reboot after resetting PRAM.
But since, theres no boot screen, I don't get a picture until the drivers are loading (.. I think; approx. half way through load bar).
Restting PRAM again brings back boot screen for the first boot. From second boot, again no boot screen.
Any ideas..?
NB I used Nicks vbios to flash a Quadro K2100m, flashed that card from Windows/Bootcamp and is working perfect.
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Ah ok, I din't see the info about temp in
One step forawrd...several steps backwards…..
The temp screen shot was without Unigine running, sorry for the confusion. But while Unigine is running the GPU heatsink is not getting hot - yesterday I left Unigine running for well over an hour and the heatsink & pipes were not at all hot to the touch.
Changing PRAM battery loosing BT bindings etc.. Ok. However BT pairing to the magic mouse & keyboard wasn't lost - after second reboot they were both still paired. Also doesn't explain why several reboots are also needed for USB wired mouse / keyboard to work too.
Anyway things have now gond from bad to worse….
As mentionned this morning - Logic board removed and GPU card / heaksink dissambled. Traces of Arctic Silver paste show good contact all over the area of GPU die, but maybe I put too much K5Pro on the memory chips. All traces of pastes then removed, card cleaned up, and re-assembled with less K5pro - card sits nicely on the heatsink amount of K5 just right.
Now the funs begins...
First boot up from SSD into HS 10.13 - now usual no USB mouse or keyboard, otherwise external screen ok, so forced power off.
Second boot up from SSD into HS 10.13 - led sequence and chime ok, then nothing, no external screen, no IP address in router, forced power off.
Several reboots later - still the same.
Boot with USB linux key, external screen ok and SSH working.
Tried to Boot with USB HS 10.13 installation HDD (no other boot devices connected) - led sequence and chime ok, then nothing.
Is this still GPU problem or something else going on, power connection problem (?), I tried changing the power supply but it's the same.
Any ideas ?.
Hi everyone in the forum!
sorry for my English.
First of all thanks for your amazing work.
I'm the owner of a mid 2011 27'' i5 iMac, after a reballing and a new chip the card is dead.
I've read through the forum to find the card that suits better over replacement: I have MacOS High Sierra,
and I'm looking for a card with better performance but secure and easy to install. I would like to install a 4GB card, the GTX770M is eligible?
sorry for my English.
First of all thanks for your amazing work.
I'm the owner of a mid 2011 27'' i5 iMac, after a reballing and a new chip the card is dead.
I've read through the forum to find the card that suits better over replacement: I have MacOS High Sierra,
and I'm looking for a card with better performance but secure and easy to install. I would like to install a 4GB card, the GTX770M is eligible?
You will see a boot screen only if you press the option/alt key on boot.
Otherwise the system boots into the standard boot device chosen on first boot or in the system preferences pane.
The VBIOS starts up the screen very late then and you see very often only the last phase of the boot, sometimes the login screen, only. This is the expected behaviour ...
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Start your reading in page one and the very first post, this is our guide through all this.
nino, vai sulla k2100m che è relativamente semplice/economica e non da grossi problemi, le altre al momento non hanno il completo supporto.
WHAT??😨
On my 27” iMac 2011 with K2100m I have full boot screen.
In all situations, with or without open core.
Are you 100% sure this is expected behaviour, and if so, how come?
We are in the middle of a believe and guess phase. As I wrote before I believe your card is not ok. I have two of them running and already checked two half dead ones. Installing and using a working card does not cause any visible trouble like this.
Maybe another one will jump onto your train, I am out of options now...
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What do you mean when using the term "boot screen"?
I am talking about the EFI boot screen you get when pressing the alt/option key to have a startup disk selection.
OpenCore is a different beast, currently it is configured to show a boot selection everytime. Some others here are annoyed about this unexpected behaviour and asked for a guide to come around this.
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If your original AMD works somewhat, reinstall it and try to run an Apple Diagnostic to make sure everything else on the logic board is functional. If it passes, then I agree with @Ausdauersportler that your 780M GPU is malfunctioning.
If your original AMD works somewhat, reinstall it and try to run an Apple Diagnostic to make sure everything else on the logic board is functional. If it passes, then I agree with @Ausdauersportler that your 780M GPU is malfunctioning.
I should have mentioned, I also tried changing power supply for my no usb symptoms and it made no difference, that's why I thought change battery but if you did that and it made no difference that problem must lie elsewhere
So the WX4130 works for you in which iMac? And still no backlight control with the WX4130?
Sorry just saw your other post. So it works with a 2010 iMac but only with the open core loader. Without the open core loader you don’t get any internal video at all?
Hi Guys
I wanted to say I just received my new AMD WX7100 Card that has the same ID as @Nick [D]vB 109-C95847-00C_02
i am ready to get things going to get it installed and working, just need some guidance.
I have read your posts about using the open core and to use windows to flash the vbios.
Im a little confused on the installing portion,
I will be using the computer to flash through windows.
So my main questions for help would be, the computer before installing the video card should have mojave loaded, and should i have a bootcamp windows partition created and installed with windows 7?
when is create the open core usb boot drive will this be created to boot the OS X computer after i install the new card and after installing the new card how will i be flashing the vbios on the computer ?
will i be needing to remote in from another computer to run windows and load the Vbios or can it all be done from a remote login to terminal?
a lot of it all seems confusing and i am all new to this but I want to make this as painless as possible if i understand what to do before removing the current card to make the replacement and upgrade to the WX7100 to understand once its replaced will i still get the boot screen to choose or i'll be flying blind and need to have the open core boot usb to start the system to finish everything?
Thank you to anyone and everyone that helps and Special thanks to @Nick [D]vB & @highvoltage12v & @RRPC for all their hardworking they have put into this project and the entire project to keep us all informed and updated.
Many thanks to others that have contributed and put in their hard work as well, it is very appreciated.
Thanks
John.
I mean; with the K2100m with Nicks vbios, I have Apple loading bar always, without pressing alt/option.
With the k1100m, I’ve only got the load bar IF Alt/Opt is pressed. Otherwise black screen.
I find that inconsistent.
Not a good sign. I had a brief discussion with @Ooze, who explained that he had the same problems when he attempted the first boots with the wx7100. So couple of tips he gave me based on his experience. (I know that some might have had an easier journey with the card)
1. NVRAM reset while you have a working computer. That is before tou disadsemble to put the WX7100 in.
2. SMC resets - several of them - take the plug out for long time (over night even - I am not sure if that is going to really help but he explained that eventually was able to turn the iMac on after several attempts of these attempts)
3. Use only one RAM stick - this should probably be done on the board recommended slot (I still did not search which one should it be but usually boards have slot recommendations for one, two or 3 slots.
4. Use only one drive (preferably SSD) in SATA 0 position - disconnect all other storage devices. ooze did it with Windows but I cannot say if that makes a difference.
5. Make absolutely sure there is no short on the heatsink. (My experience with 4170 taught me to use a little bit of electrical tape on the components left of the GPU when looking at it from the top.
Don’t give up. Specially with the resets and taking the cable out. It should be that once you will be able to start it will remain stable.
One more thing. Ooze was starting with Dell vbios (one that came with the card and remoted in to flash). I believe that once you are able to boot with the card in, it should be fairly easy to progress.
I am still waiting for my card replacement so will do all these things later. Holding fingers crossed for you.
That's cool the WX4130 card works. I tried the HP blue PCB WX4150 on my 2010 21"/2011/21"/2011 27" and both cards on all 3 machines don't allow the iMac to Power on. The cards work perfectly in an HP elite USDT 8300. Tried them without a heatsink as well, still no power on, after 4 pwr button presses the fans will quarter fan spin. I'll look into the WX4130 next.
Also it didn't make a difference if they were flashed with Nick's VBIOS or not, still no post, I'll even try a 24" iMac just for kicks.
For context here's how they scored with the HP 8200 on valley in windows 10. Not bad at all.
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The working PCB is 109-C98581-00D_02, and both Dell's WX4130 and WX4150 seem to have that same label.
There seems to be an identical(?) HP PCB labelled 109-C98581-00_02, suggesting the D is for Dell.
I suspect your HP card is labelled 109-C98581-10_02 ?
The HP wx4150 model number is 109-C98581-10_02 yes you are correct, you have any experience with this revision?
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I noticed this too, and am somewhat dismayed that the benchmarks for the K2100m seem to be LESS than I and others currently get on the 6770m. If they used aa and I did not, then it makes sense. If, on the other hand, test settings are the same, then the ONLY reason to install the k2100m is to get metal compatibility(move past High Sierra)
Alright guys im ready to swap my 770m in my 2011 iMac 12,2 to an AMD again.
3 pipes heatsink is available.
what do you suggest me for as many native compatibility like brightness control, sleep and other stuff as possible.
in that order descending?
wx7100
wx4170
wx4150
wx4130
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? The last two don’t work in a 2011 imac right?
and next big question: where to get one? Trust Ali express?
3 pipes heatsink is available.
what do you suggest me for as many native compatibility like brightness control, sleep and other stuff as possible.
in that order descending?
wx7100
wx4170
wx4150
wx4130
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? The last two don’t work in a 2011 imac right?
and next big question: where to get one? Trust Ali express?
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Gonna try it today or tomorrow, hope something helps. Luckily after few failed attempts I put my HD6970 in again so i can start over.
Keeping my fingers crossed for you, don't forget to share your experience with us
... I fear I'll get one of those soon.
Already thinking of whether to return it or try to resell it myself. I consider not even trying it.
We should thoroughly compare the HP cards to the Dell ones - maybe we can find the difference and make the HP cards work by some small soldering work.
Folks,
after changing the GPU card to the Geforce 765m (with Nick's Beta3 VBIOS) as mentioned in my first post, now I see the progress bar after booting, but 75% the screen turn black and the ODD fan starts at full velocity (ODD is not even present, the temp sensor is on top of a second SSD). My iMac model is 21.5 (2011). I've also tried removing cables and sensor from the second SSD/motherboard, but the fan still starts at that point). What am I doing wrong? Any clue?
Thanks a lot,
Monk
after changing the GPU card to the Geforce 765m (with Nick's Beta3 VBIOS) as mentioned in my first post, now I see the progress bar after booting, but 75% the screen turn black and the ODD fan starts at full velocity (ODD is not even present, the temp sensor is on top of a second SSD). My iMac model is 21.5 (2011). I've also tried removing cables and sensor from the second SSD/motherboard, but the fan still starts at that point). What am I doing wrong? Any clue?
Thanks a lot,
Monk