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lilliputian

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Just wanted to report my success in hooking up an LG Ultra HD Monitor to my 27" iMac 2010 (11,3) via miniDisplayport!

Per LG, you cannot use the monitor with an adapter (such as miniDP->HDMI); it must be either HDMI->HDMI, or DP->DP, so with the iMac that limits us to DP->(Mini)DP. I went with a Cable Matters DP->MiniDP cable (model #101007, which supports up to 4K at 60Hz).

At first, I experienced glitchiness and blackout on the monitor, but after playing around with it I found an option for disabling DisplayPort 1.2. Doing so solved everything, resulting in perfect picture at full 4K and everything in between, albeit limited to a 30Hz refresh rate (not a problem for my purposes; ymmv).

My iMac is equipped with an AMD Radeon RX 480 4GB. I am currently running Ventura 13.5 with OCLP 1.3.0.

The monitor complained to me that I wasn't using the cable that came with it (rude), but thankfully you can disable the warning.
 

go_tnt

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Apr 6, 2024
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Thank you very much! I want to report that I have successfully installed Dell green WX4130 2GB into my iMac 2011 27", I had hammered the bolt out from the x-bracket, flashed vbios with a ch341 programmer and clamp. I also recycled the white gooey thing and put it on the new card. After installed and booted, macos showed Graphics Display 14 MB, it took me some time to figure out that I need to revert root patch in OCLP, reboot and patch again. I think it might be the old patch for the 6970 is making it confused. it seems working fine now, showing AMD Radeon Polaris 2 GB. Haven't figured out EFI boot yet, maybe another time
 

aa004737

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imac 2011 27“1312-1hdd+2ssd-wx4150-bcm94360cd-oclp1.4.3+sonoma14.4.1
 

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Vladistone

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I got iMac 11.3 MacOS 11.7.10 to work with experimental setup: AMD M6100 2Gb + external apple cinema monitor 27 moded by Chinese TV-driver card (see green card photos below). This set is satisfactory work with 2K+FHD resolution to master & slave screens respectively (and another ext-monitors which in my staff too). But I need to set duo monitors at 2K resolution both to proper working at least:
- Cause when you switch the settings of the second monitor to 2560x1440, both monitors immediately start flickering. After some time, the main iMac display is hard restores the picture, but the slave monitor does not work properly:
- 2nd screen is black and the backlight is blinking, or...
- at best is sometimes it were momentaly events with unstable of picture at 2560x1440 or 1920x1080 resolution, I can't estimated it.
- Although I see by terminal command screen -l whitch reports that the mode worked and the M6100 v-Card provides a certain stability at this resolution (the eDP screen ID46196011 was connected via a DP-HDMI adapter and High speed HDMI cable):
Снимок экрана 2024-04-15 в 01.14.30.png
...since I checked a lot and I changed the mod:
- replacing the HDMI cable as the main reason for inoperability with 2K resolution is no longer necessary!
- replaced the monitor power supply DC 12V to 10A too;
befor done it was:
- Patched by OCLP 1.4.3;
- vBIOS updated by M6100-HynixBFR-EnableGOP.rom :
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Does anyone have any tips on how to set it up of fix issue with ext 2K monitor? Any ideas or notes?
 

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Jarafe

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Yes, I’ve followed your indications and it’s confirmed i have to mod the ch341a to operate in 3,3v. Tomorrow (hoppe) will be assisted in doing that mod.
Still working on getting everything working, got myself a backup in the way of a repair shop near me that makes these updates on these machines ;)
 

Vladistone

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Can anyone explain me about the AMD M6100 card and its interaction with OCLP: why its original capabilities described in the specification are not 100% supported as below:
- AMD Eyefinity multi-display technology, (Up to 4 displays supported undocked, 5 displays docked),
- AMD App Acceleration,
- AMD PowerPlay power management technology,
- AMD PowerTune technology,
- AMD ZeroCore Power technology,
- AMD Enduro technology
What interests me most is the ability to support multiple monitors at 2k resolution and overclock the card to the nominal frequency? (up to GPU 1100 MHz)
 

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Nguyen Duc Hieu

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Can anyone explain me about the AMD M6100 card and its interaction with OCLP: why its original capabilities described in the specification are not 100% supported as below:
- AMD Eyefinity multi-display technology, (Up to 4 displays supported undocked, 5 displays docked),
- AMD App Acceleration,
- AMD PowerPlay power management technology,
- AMD PowerTune technology,
- AMD ZeroCore Power technology,
- AMD Enduro technology
What interests me most is the ability to support multiple monitors at 2k resolution and overclock the card to the nominal frequency? (up to GPU 1100 MHz)

1. AMD Firepro M6100 was made to work inside a Dell or HP laptop. It was not designed to work inside a Mac computer. Making it work inside an iMac has already been a magic of all the vBIOS and OCLP developers.
2. From "technically supported" to "applicable in real life programs" is a long way.
3. Hardware wise, can you find any Monitor with Thunderbolt 1 port to daisy chain them?
4. There is an overlocked vBIOS somewhere in this thread. You can search it yourself.
 
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Vladistone

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1. AMD Firepro M6100 was made to work inside a Dell or HP laptop. It was not designed to work inside a Mac computer. Making it work inside an iMac has already been a magic of all the vBIOS and OCLP developers.
2. From "technically supported" to "applicable in real life programs" is a long way.
3. Hardware wise, can you find any Monitor with Thunderbolt 1 port to daisy chain them?
4. There is an overlocked vBIOS somewhere in this thread. You can search it yourself.
iMac 11.3 is use DP interface, not the TB1...
probably in this case witch it doesn't work external 2K?
now I haven't TB-monitor, but i try to found out it...
 
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Stefanox2410

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Experimental AMD FirePro M6100 2GB (AMD R9 M380)

View attachment 1876272

This thread will chronicle my efforts to get the AMD FirePro M6100 MXM 3.0 card working on a 2009/2010 iMac. I've been working on it for several months. I will concentrate on the older iMacs as the 2011 iMacs have an issue with the "wake" cycle not recognizing the GPU and make this card nearly unusable.

This card is used internally in a iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015), model Identifier: iMac17,1

SSH Access:
Code:
Adapter  0    SEG=0000, BN=01, DN=00, PCIID=66401002, SSID=00000000)
    Asic Family        :  Bonaire
    Flash Type         :  M25P10/c    (128 KB)
    Product Name       :  Dell / Compal Brooks Saturn XT C60001 A1 GDDR5 2GB 300e/150m   <-- card recognized!
    Bios Config File   :  BR44933.001
    Bios P/N           :  P/N Not Available
    Bios Version       :  015.040.000.001.044933
    Bios Date          :  10/02/13,10:35:3
    ROM Image Type     :  Hybrid Images
    ROM Image Details  :
        Image[0]: Size(65024 Bytes), Type(Legacy Image)           <-- legacy vbios recognized!
        Image[1]: Size(61440 Bytes), Type(EFI Image)              <-- PCI option ROM/UEFI recognized!

MacOS integration:
This card uses the AMD8000Controller.kext and the AMDBonaireGraphicsAcccelerator - RadeonX4000.kext which also natively runs in MacOS. The AMDMTLBronzeDriver is used to initialize its Metal capability. The default framebuffer is in use: RadeonFrameBuffer.

You will like need to apply the same Device Properties as previously stated in other posts <@Ausdauersportler> here recently.

Mods:
- I modified the OBJ table to work with our current iMac models: eDP:14, EncoderID:21, I2CID:92, SenseID:03.
- I used the IM17,1 Header to trick AppleGraphicsPolicy into accepting it as native
- I used an IM17,1 VGA bootloader firmware instead of the stock Dell one and adjusted the pointer to the parser-fall-call in the TVdispout table to point to the correct area in the patched bootloader.
- I used a PC UEFI GOP to communicate with OC and/or OCLP, so you will not get a native MacOS boot picker screen, but instead the OC one.
- GPIO_Pin_LUT has 6 pin assignments for Dell ROM, there are 8 defined in the Apple ROM. This was patched.
- In EFI 1.x systems, the INT 10H and the VESA BIOS Extensions (VBE) are replaced by the EFI UGA protocol. In the more widely used UEFI 2.x systems, the INT10H and the VBE are replaced by the UEFI GOP which is what we are using here to communicate with OpenCore or OCLP using device properties.

The card is recognized as an 'HD8xxx', but that doesn't matter. With the proper OperCore config file, it should be recognized appropriately. I have only tested with High Sierra and Catalina:



View attachment 1876252


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Thermal IC chip:
The SMC "0" SMBus Connections on the iMac uses a write address of: 0x98 for the 8-bit SMC slave address. This is equivalent to a 0x4C 7-bit slave address:

Code:
0x98 = 1001 1000
0x4C = 0100 1100  (you can see that the 7-bit address is just bit-shifted to the right by 1)

So a GPU card with a ADM1032 thermal IC with a part marking "T1J" seems to work because it communicates on the 0x4C SMC address and will not cause an address collision with other thermal ICs on the logic board. In contrast, an ADM1032 chip with a part marking "T1C" is internally connected to 0x4D and therefore will not communicate with the imac SMC. An EMC1402-1 chip has a slave address of 1001_100 (corresponding to 7-bit 0x4C) and theoretically should also work, but there could be other interactions that are interfering with this. More investigation is necessary.

10/25/2021 addendum:
@dfranetic has pointed out correctly that the SMC information is not being read correctly by this chip, ADM1032. It appears that Mac Fan Control queries the thermal IC directly and not the SMC lane. So back to the drawing board! Sometimes sounds theories don't turn out as we expect in reality

Here is Macs Fan Control:
View attachment 1876141

Let's take a closer look at this IC:
View attachment 1876140
You can see here, that it uses 2 Jumper resistors (lime green) to connect the SCL and SDA lines to the GPU. The pull up resistors are right next to them, both are 100KOhm I believe. I will as an experiment remove these 0 Ohm resistors and see what happens to the GPU temp read out, stay tuned. More research here is necessary.


Benchmark:
View attachment 1876142

Other members have been working on variants of this card, but be warned, these are experimental in nature and still have a lot of troubleshooting to get them working appropriately. They are painful to recover from a bad flash. It's been a long frustrating road with these class of cards, but nevertheless, it has always been insanely great!
Enjoy.
**** change notes:
M6100_Elpida.rom - This is for M6100 cards with Elpida VRAM.
11-20-2022 - GPIO_Pin_LUT as pointed out by @dfranetic is incorrectly set to Apple, switching back to original. New rom, (M6100_iMacGOP_r2.rom) & (M6100_Elipda_r2.rom), reflecting changes.


good morning everyone, I bought an already flashed m6100, I turn it on and I don't see anything, I try to flash it from ssh, I see that it was already with the exact firmware, I perform a new flash and unfortunately the black screen still remains
 

Vladistone

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Mar 21, 2024
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good morning everyone, I bought an already flashed m6100, I turn it on and I don't see anything, I try to flash it from ssh, I see that it was already with the exact firmware, I perform a new flash and unfortunately the black screen still remains
You might find my story of installing an AMD M6100 on an iMac 27 mid-2010 useful:
I also bought a Dell Fire Pro M6100 v-card from Aliexpress seller who is involved in flashing the card for Mac. But as I realized after installation and a black screen without a backlight, the card turned out to have no firmware changes (see the terminal screen in my previous message). After flashing by ssh method with the corresponding vBIOS version, then the image appeared!
therefore, there can be three reasons for a black screen without backlighting (but the important condition is that there is still an image on the screen, barely noticeable when illuminated by an additional light source): so either
- the card is flashed by the wrong vBIOS
- or problems with the inverter board
- or problems with the LED backlight of the monitor.
 
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Stefanox2410

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You might find my story of installing an AMD M6100 on an iMac 27 in mid-2010 useful:
I also bought a Dell Fire Pro M6100 card from Aliexpress from a seller who is involved in flashing the card for Mac, but as I realized after installation and a black screen without a backlight, the card turned out to have no firmware changes. see the terminal screen in my previous message! After flashing the ssd using the v-card method with the corresponding vBIOS version, an image appeared.
therefore, there can be three reasons for a black screen without backlighting (but the important thing is that there is still an image on the screen, barely noticeable when illuminated by an additional light source): either
- the card is flashed by the wrong vBIOS
- or problems with the inverter board
- or problems with the LED backlight of the monitor.
Thanks so much for the reply indeed! I don't know, I'll try on another 2009, maybe it's the mobo, but from ssh with amdflash -0 I redid the flash of the one in the link, which was already in the card because when it asks me to replace I noticed that the firmware was the same, if there there are other flash methods I didn't understand
 

Vladistone

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Mar 21, 2024
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Thanks so much for the reply indeed! I don't know, I'll try on another 2009, maybe it's the mobo, but from ssh with amdflash -0 I redid the flash of the one in the link, which was already in the card because when it asks me to replace I noticed that the firmware was the same, if there there are other flash methods I didn't understand
First of all, check what type of memory is installed on your M6100. and whether the vBIOS version of that memory matches. as mentioned here - the M6100 cards were released with different 3 versions of vRAM... you or the seller could very well mix up the vBIOS versions. To avoid guessing, it’s better to provide background information:
- photo of the card and the memory in good quality.
- print screen ssh flashing where old and new versions of vBIOS are indicated.
Otherwise, it is not possible to help you more consciously.
 
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Vladistone

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How do you suppose to connect 4 monitors with only 2 ports?
I probably confused you with my reasoning, sorry for my English. I mentioned about the capabilities of the M6100, which should support up to 5 monitors in certain conditions (although what resolution is not specified). But I connected only 2 monitors (iMac 11.3 and an external with the same 2560x1440 matrice via DP-HDMI adapter) and I can’t achieve stable operation on two monitors at the same time in 2K resolution.
 
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Nguyen Duc Hieu

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good morning everyone, I bought an already flashed m6100, I turn it on and I don't see anything, I try to flash it from ssh, I see that it was already with the exact firmware, I perform a new flash and unfortunately the black screen still remains

You can talk with the seller about the issue.
Also, have you referred to the first post to get ALL available vBIOSs for this particular Firepro M6100?
I got the EG vBIOS from the link in post #21731 above. Big thanks to Ausdauersportler .
It works impeccably on my iMac 2009, just exactly how a native card is supposed to works.
 
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Stefanox2410

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First of all, check what type of memory is installed on your M6100. and whether the vBIOS version of that memory matches. as mentioned here - the M6100 cards were released with different 3 versions of vRAM... you or the seller could very well mix up the vBIOS versions. To avoid guessing, it’s better to provide background information:
- photo of the card and the memory in good quality.
- print screen ssh flashing where old and new versions of vBIOS are indicated.
Otherwise, it is not possible to help you more consciously.
thank you very much, here is the card in question, the imac works with the native card, the seller also sent a CD containing this, I don't understand, the rom that I flashed and which was already there and the classic one in the forum link1, I have also checked the bootrom of the imac and it shows 63.0
Model of ram H5gq2h24afr
 

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KOH-I-NOOR

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thank you very much, here is the card in question, the imac works with the native card, the seller also sent a CD containing this, I don't understand, the rom that I flashed and which was already there and the classic one in the forum link1, I have also checked the bootrom of the imac and it shows 63.0
Model of ram H5gq2h24afr
I just installed a similar card and it worked in a mid 2010 27". You don´t mention OCLP, have you prepared the OS to recognize the card? You must install the patches with the right setting for GPU?
 

Stefanox2410

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I just installed a similar card and it worked in a mid 2010 27". You don´t mention OCLP, have you prepared the OS to recognize the card? You must install the patches with the right setting for GPU?
to be honest I haven't tried it, I turned on windows with ssd, with alt it remains black, without always pressing the black screen, I thought it was like Nvidia that pressing alt brings up the boot menu, or waiting for the operating system to load when it starts
 

KOH-I-NOOR

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to be honest I haven't tried it, I turned on windows with ssd, with alt it remains black, without always pressing the black screen, I thought it was like Nvidia that pressing alt brings up the boot menu, or waiting for the operating system to load when it starts
I Dont know about Windows, but for mac os it must be High Sierra or higer to recognize this card, and OCLP must be installed to load the drivers. Read post #1 in this thread, Spoiler 5 about installing Windows
 
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Vladistone

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thank you very much, here is the card in question, the imac works with the native card, the seller also sent a CD containing this, I don't understand, the rom that I flashed and which was already there and the classic one in the forum link1, I have also checked the bootrom of the imac and it shows 63.0
Model of ram H5gq2h24afr
Your entire photo-report isn't informative. It is impossible to guess the vRAM type under the termo PAD. And further - what versions of vBIOS you are installing - we don’t understand!
Based on the experience of my own installation of AMD M6100 w/hynix BFR type of vRAM, I can say:
- I used 3 versions of vBIOS from repo and forum here, which gave different effects when further interacting with the iMac system 27 mid 2010:
1. M6100-Elpida-EnableGop.rom - did not use it for my card due to different initial vRAM data.
2. M6100-General-EnableGop.rom - also did not use...
3. M6100-HynixBFR-EnableGop.rom - the my first version of vBIOS which, in my opinion and forum recommendations, should be most suitable for M6100 hynix RAM - gave a not entirely satisfactory result: the GPU frequency varied from 300 to 700MHz, but did not reach a maximum of 1100MHz and OCLP I had difficulty establishing functionality with the system when switching between different monitor systems and screen resolutions. In my experience, the system was unstable compared to other VBIOS options. but nevertheless, it gave me a stable result with single-monitor using and based on the first experience I looking for fix issue with duo-screen instalation of Mac-system, I turned to forums.macrumors.com here for advice, further...
4. M6100_iMacGOPV2 - posted by @nikey22
there is an opinion that this version of vBIOS for the M6100 overclocks the GPU frequency, but I was never able to start for the working MacOS BugSur (11.7.10) - the computer froze on the MacOS startup after EFI and of splash screen and showed a black screen. And in safe mode, after some time of operation, it showed artifacts - an inverted color palette and this information about this iMac:
Снимок экрана 2024-04-18 в 11.14.35.png
I couldn't to start the system in normal mode and I reloaded vBIOS to the following:
5. M6100_iMacGOP_BFR - posted by @Ausdauersportler which, IMHO, turned out to be the smoothest and most stable in my staff. The GPU frequency is stable at 600MHz. Switching between external monitor settings is much faster than with the M6100-HynixBFR-EnableGop.rom version #3 from above...


NOTE: I was confused by the report on amdvbflash, which showed that after flashing the firmware
from #3
Code:
M6100-HynixBFR-EnableGop.rom
to #4
Code:
M6100_iMacGOPV2.rom
, the vBIOS version remained the same: 015.040.000..001.044933
pay attention to the prt-screen:
flash ROM V2.png
This is my humble opinion of a newbie when I first met the GPU-metal upgrade of iMac 11.3
 

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clfberlin

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Hi there... Just to add to this rather short thread:
I am stuck with an iMac 11,3 (2010). I had Monterey installed via OCLP and added a M5100 (109-C42241-01_02). I successfully flashed the card with the great GRML-Flasher by @Ausdauersportler (M5100-GOP_HynixAFR.rom). This helped me to come from a black screen to a boot logo, picker etc.
Unfortunately the screen acted up in different ways within the booted system. Dark green at one point, distorted at another. I had it running once and system information showed the card and everything looked fine. But after that I never managed to come back to a usable screen. Everything before the system boot looked fine, but once the system was there...
So I decided to make a clear cut: I created a new OCLP USB-stick, deleted the entire hard drive in order to install everything from scratch. Problem now is that all I get after starting is a black screen. No logo, no option - nothing. No matter what I do.
The only thing that does work so far is when I insert the GRML-Flasher. It comes up nicely on the screen and it works. I tried reflashing the card, but it says that it is alredy flashed. At this point I'd like to somehow be able to reinstall via OCLP. Is there any trick to either get something visible on the screen (without re-installing the old card) or using Shell access that I have through the GRML-Flasher?
Thanks and cheers, clfberlin
 
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Stefanox2410

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Your entire photo-report isn't informative. It is impossible to guess the vRAM type under the termo PAD. And further - what versions of vBIOS you are installing - we don’t understand!
Based on the experience of my own installation of AMD M6100 w/hynix BFR type of vRAM, I can say:
- I used 3 versions of vBIOS from repo and forum here, which gave different effects when further interacting with the iMac system 27 mid 2010:
1. M6100-Elpida-EnableGop.rom - did not use it for my card due to different initial vRAM data.
2. M6100-General-EnableGop.rom - also did not use...
3. M6100-HynixBFR-EnableGop.rom - the my first version of vBIOS which, in my opinion and forum recommendations, should be most suitable for M6100 hynix RAM - gave a not entirely satisfactory result: the GPU frequency varied from 300 to 700MHz, but did not reach a maximum of 1100MHz and OCLP I had difficulty establishing functionality with the system when switching between different monitor systems and screen resolutions. In my experience, the system was unstable compared to other VBIOS options. but nevertheless, it gave me a stable result with single-monitor using and based on the first experience I looking for fix issue with duo-screen instalation of Mac-system, I turned to forums.macrumors.com here for advice, further...
4. M6100_iMacGOPV2 - posted by @nikey22
there is an opinion that this version of vBIOS for the M6100 overclocks the GPU frequency, but I was never able to start for the working MacOS BugSur (11.7.10) - the computer froze on the MacOS startup after EFI and of splash screen and showed a black screen. And in safe mode, after some time of operation, it showed artifacts - an inverted color palette and this information about this iMac:
View attachment 2369487
I couldn't to start the system in normal mode and I reloaded vBIOS to the following:
5. M6100_iMacGOP_BFR - posted by @Ausdauersportler which, IMHO, turned out to be the smoothest and most stable in my staff. The GPU frequency is stable at 600MHz. Switching between external monitor settings is much faster than with the M6100-HynixBFR-EnableGop.rom version #3 from above...


NOTE: I was confused by the report on amdvbflash, which showed that after flashing the firmware
from #3
Code:
M6100-HynixBFR-EnableGop.rom
to #4
Code:
M6100_iMacGOPV2.rom
, the vBIOS version remained the same: 015.040.000..001.044933
pay attention to the prt-screen:
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This is my humble opinion of a newbie when I first met the GPU-metal upgrade of iMac 11.3
thank you very much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the problem was opencore configured badly,
you needed to set the model of the amd card. a question, for graphics on imac 2009, having had a bad experience with the k3000m 2gb which heated up and didn't display anything but only 2011 works, which one do you recommend?
 

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clfberlin

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Apr 4, 2024
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I successfully flashed the card with the great GRML-Flasher by @Ausdauersportler (M5100-GOP_HynixBFR.rom). This helped me to come from a black screen to a boot logo, picker etc.
Unfortunately the screen acted up in different ways within the booted system. Dark green at one point, distorted at another. I had it running once and system information showed the card and everything looked fine. But after that I never managed to come back to a usable screen.
Sorry. It appears that the problem was - once again - sitting in front of the screen. Reflashing from M5100-GOP_HynixAFR.rom to M5100-EG2_HynixAFR_adj.rom did the job for me...
Cheers, clfberlin
 
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internetzel

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thank you very much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the problem was opencore configured badly,
you needed to set the model of the amd card. a question, for graphics on imac 2009, having had a bad experience with the k3000m 2gb which heated up and didn't display anything but only 2011 works, which one do you recommend?
Please specify exactly which model of 2009 iMac you are talking about.
 
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