flat five
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s.jobs was alive, and working, during the inception period of mp6,1 design.
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(fwiw)
Good call. I haven't really kept an eye on what's happening with the mini but you're right, it might be a better fit for me than a nMP (or an HP workstation!). I do a certain amount of exhibition display work that needs artwork for vinyls (4metres tall x up to 8 metres wide but fortunately only 75dpi!). Some of the base files with layers can get a bit heavy.
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koyoot
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flat five
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as far as i can gather, no, not particularly.. he didn't really 'design' anything and instead spoke more in conceptual fashion regarding product development..
but yes, he saw the cylinder and was aware the 6,1 was going to be completely different than the previous mac pros.
likewise, Jobs didn't design the first mac pro, or the imac, or the iPod, or the iPhone.
etc
he hired a design team, people who specialize in industrial design, to design products.
I very much doubt AMD will unveil a lot of info on Polaris in Macau, but we'll see.
Jesper, that's a nice thought but you couldn't get 2 1080 class GPUs in a board and be within TDP. Even if each CPU is around 140W, and the PSU is upgraded to 500W, you're still short. Unless you downclock a lot, or use 1070s which could fit with some work. But best case scenario would be 2 Polaris 10 GPUs in Dual FirePro setup if you will.
That would work great, internal fabric for the GPUs, loads of lanes to spare.
The downside to that config is that if forces you to have 2 CPUs, and then we'd come back to the discussion of who needs them or not, what now happens with GPUs :-(
Too bad Intel kept the PCH untouched all these years.
[doublepost=1464627505][/doublepost]It seems there are pretty good chances (rumors or whatnot) that the nMP 7,1 is indeed a fact and that performance will be great. Hope so, if not just to shut the $#%& up some haters here.
Kidding, I'm really into getting one and I hope it's awesome.
I understand that some info might not be disclosed right now (care with those that will say this is just PR) but keep it coming as possible.
Jesper, that's a nice thought but you couldn't get 2 1080 class GPUs in a board and be within TDP. Even if each CPU is around 140W, and the PSU is upgraded to 500W, you're still short. Unless you downclock a lot, or use 1070s which could fit with some work. But best case scenario would be 2 Polaris 10 GPUs in Dual FirePro setup if you will.
That would work great, internal fabric for the GPUs, loads of lanes to spare.
The downside to that config is that if forces you to have 2 CPUs, and then we'd come back to the discussion of who needs them or not, what now happens with GPUs :-(
Too bad Intel kept the PCH untouched all these years.
[doublepost=1464627505][/doublepost]It seems there are pretty good chances (rumors or whatnot) that the nMP 7,1 is indeed a fact and that performance will be great. Hope so, if not just to shut the $#%& up some haters here.
Kidding, I'm really into getting one and I hope it's awesome.
I understand that some info might not be disclosed right now (care with those that will say this is just PR) but keep it coming as possible.
Holly cow:
https://www.macrumors.com/2016/05/30/caltech-vs-apple-broadcom-wifi-lawsuit/
I wonder how this will affect current and coming products.
https://www.macrumors.com/2016/05/30/caltech-vs-apple-broadcom-wifi-lawsuit/
I wonder how this will affect current and coming products.
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I am wondering why at this time? My inner spirit tells me to cause massive chaos upon both especially wwdc is coming up. They probably want to embarress them during the keynote demostration. Tim: "hey Phil, show them our improved safari."
Phil" okay..but...we don't have wi-fi...and I ain't using my data."
EDIT: They won't include wi-fi features in all mac products.
On each box the description will say, "wi-fi not included."
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Yeah, it seems this is know for years now.
And is it Apple or Broadcom to blame? Is it a hardware issue or software?
Is it just Apple using it?
And is it Apple or Broadcom to blame? Is it a hardware issue or software?
Is it just Apple using it?
pat500000
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I'm not legal knowledge guy..but i'm thinking it would be broadcom...however...apple is using it is.."guilty by association." I'm not even sure Apple licensed it.
Is this interesting: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/6786807?
From the Info I've collected, mostly the PSU upgrade is due Thunderbolt 3 Power Delivery needs, not an actual nMP TDP rate up, while it's very likely Apple to restrict CPU TDP to 135W this will allow 10W extra on each GPU at about 125-130W Each max continuous, surely Apple Will Use all the 500W from the PSU to enable Full GPU (150-180W Max each) Throttle for short time, then throttling to keep things cool, its the common thermal management (or tricking) on most system now, it's also possible for CPU, to include 160W parts but enable full powwer only for short time.
Facts about Xeon E5v4 vs E5v3 (not E5v2 as on nMP6,1) some optimized apps as SPARK (data mining) gains 2.7x performance just switching from E5v3 to E5v4 a SINGLE E5v4 2699 is faster that TWO E5v3 2699, [insert Tim Cook voice] That's Awwwmaaaaahhhziiiiinnnn [end Tim Cook voice]
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10158/the-intel-xeon-e5-v4-review
This is very consistent with numbers I've been recieving as alleged to the nMP 7,1 performance, at leas on CPU we are covered, I wait not less from nMP 7,1's GPUs
Humm, a MP6,1 with a 16 core v4 CPU. Hack?!
ago, some optimized apps might see big boosts but not all I recon.
Still, I hope to see a great machine.
I don't see the GPUs sucking a lot more power in the new MP7,1, even if the PSU gets revamped at 500W. They won't take it to the limits, and should keep all 3 parts lined up when it comes to power draw I guess, to keep it balanced.
But maybe with the extra headroom the GPUs need no downclock. If Polaris 10 takes 150W (each), plus 140W for BDW-EP there's still plenty left for the rest and some.
Nice and balanced.
Maybe a little overclock even? 🙂
ago, some optimized apps might see big boosts but not all I recon.
Still, I hope to see a great machine.
I don't see the GPUs sucking a lot more power in the new MP7,1, even if the PSU gets revamped at 500W. They won't take it to the limits, and should keep all 3 parts lined up when it comes to power draw I guess, to keep it balanced.
But maybe with the extra headroom the GPUs need no downclock. If Polaris 10 takes 150W (each), plus 140W for BDW-EP there's still plenty left for the rest and some.
Nice and balanced.
Maybe a little overclock even? 🙂
koyoot
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You should get a little more knowledge in the front of AMD drivers. But thanks for input 😉.
I have plenty of knowledge about AMD drivers, you on the other hand rely on press releases and post on /r/AyyMD
Dear Santa,
All I want for Christmas is a slight bump to a 500 Watt PSU.
That way I won't have to downclock all my stuff so much.
Pretty please?
Funny you never see this on other workstation boards.
All I want for Christmas is a slight bump to a 500 Watt PSU.
That way I won't have to downclock all my stuff so much.
Pretty please?
Funny you never see this on other workstation boards.
AidenShaw
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And I can just hear Phil "my ass" describing how pulling out WiFi is a good thing.
So why don't you just pack and go to those other WS forums and leave us be?
I mean, all you do here is smartass remarks and no real contribution or even anything useful to say.
Go be the only guy on earth and beyond that knows MP inside out and gets eTB working. You're full of it.
Maybe Santa will give you someone to talk to, someone that can actually put up with you, I very much doubt there is anyone at the moment.
I mean, all you do here is smartass remarks and no real contribution or even anything useful to say.
Go be the only guy on earth and beyond that knows MP inside out and gets eTB working. You're full of it.
Maybe Santa will give you someone to talk to, someone that can actually put up with you, I very much doubt there is anyone at the moment.
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I kept wondering why someone would choose to dream of 2013 GPUs in a 2016 machine. Especially ones known for drawing 250-370 Watts EACH when the whole computer can only support 450 Watts.
Then it hit me, we are lowering expectations for WWDC. Lowering them conveniently to a level that Polaris fits. AMD lost all their Polaris buzz once Pascal started setting records, topping all benchmarks, and selling like hotcakes.
Hard to hype "the new middle" when high end so much sexier.
So, we have Polaris poised to land with a wet thud soon. (Sound of a turd dropping from approx 4 ft to pavement) And we have an artificially constrained workstation-ette that needs something "newish" in it.
How do we keep everyone from noticing that we had to put Wet Thud Islands GPUs in it? Well, we do what we did before. We call them AMD FIRE PRO Z1000s and point out that they offer the compute power of the vaunted R9 390X while sipping power.
And to preface that we send the AMD PR team out to soften the blow by posing as average joes who just wish they had a couple R9 390Xs to use.
AMD PR echo chamber tactics at work.
Good news is this probably means 7,1 is around corner with a brace of Wet Thud Z1000s in it.
ShadovvMoon
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Yawn. Why must these threads constantly derail into Nvidia vs AMD arguments? Nvidia shot themselves in the foot by trying to sue Apple, so it's unlikely that a Nvidia card will end up in any new Apple computers. Get over it; We don't need 100 posts complaining that AMD is garbage. Don't like it? Don't buy a mac. If you still feel the need to constantly moan about it, start a new thread called "Why AMD and the nMP sucks"
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koyoot
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Interesting. This is 120W CPU, with around 1800$ price tag.
I suppose you answer MVC. He does not buy Macs. He sells Nvidia GPUs with Mac EFI, to people who need them. He is not able to sell them to people who own nMP.
You may now understand why he posts garbage. Ignore him, and move on.
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rockyromero
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Yes, it is.
How did you get 16 core in the processor, if I understand it correctly?
What about the DDR4 memory?
I'm interested in this for my nMP 6,1
Appreciate your feedback on this.
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