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linuxcooldude said:
Because Firepros are based on their Radeon line, even on the PC side.
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Based, but different IDs.


linuxcooldude said:
Switching to a PC won't get rid of the vendor lockin with Nvidia with some third party apps. You will still continued to get kicked in the nuts by Nvidia.
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If you want those apps, it's your only choice. Better than Phill Schiller kicking you in the nuts.
 
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linuxcooldude said:
Because Firepros are based on their Radeon line, even on the PC side.



Switching to a PC won't get rid of the vendor lockin with Nvidia with some third party apps. You will still continued to get kicked in the nuts by Nvidia.
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Why would Apple then put a Firepro in the nMP line when it is just an underperforming Radeon inside a machine that's got no room to be upgraded anymore?
 
linuxcooldude said:
Because Firepros are based on their Radeon line, even on the PC side.



Switching to a PC won't get rid of the vendor lockin with Nvidia with some third party apps. You will still continued to get kicked in the nuts by Nvidia.
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The only real difference between firepros and Radeon is ECC ram support, it's like Xeon and core i7 even nVidias only difference between its quadro and it's Titan series it's just ecc support. GpuID is more a mater for driver compatibility than actual GPU model id.

Even if the case Apple instead put AMD but instead nVidia on the nMP and without ecc on the gpu sure they should id electronically as a Titan gpu instead a Quadro.

Melodist said:
Why would Apple then put a Firepro in the nMP line when it is just an underperforming Radeon inside a machine that's got no room to be upgraded anymore?
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Because anyway it would sell as cakes.
 
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Mago said:
The only real difference between firepros and Radeon is ECC ram support, it's like Xeon and core i7 even nVidias only difference between its quadro and it's Titan series it's just ecc support. GpuID is more a mater for driver compatibility than actual GPU model id.

Even if the case Apple instead put AMD but nVidia on the nMP and without ecc on the gpu sure they should id electronically as a Titan gpu instead a Quadro.
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Being able to upgrade the graphics card like we used to would solve a lot of glaring problems...
 
Mago said:
The only real difference between firepros and Radeon is ECC ram support, it's like Xeon and core i7 even nVidias only difference between its quadro and it's Titan series it's just ecc support. GpuID is more a mater for driver compatibility than actual GPU model id.

Even if the case Apple instead put AMD but instead nVidia on the nMP and without ecc on the gpu sure they should id electronically as a Titan gpu instead a Quadro.


Because anyway it would sell as cakes.
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Not only that but many Nvidia GeForce cards have drivers tricked into thinking they are Quattro cards. Not something that is only specific to AMD graphics.
 
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linuxcooldude said:
Not only that but many Nvidia GeForce cards have drivers tricked into thinking they are Quattro cards. Not something that is only specific to AMD graphics.
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If I remember that one correctly it was actually that you could flash Quadro firmware onto your GeForce. I believe people did it to unlock the power limiter
 
linuxcooldude said:
Not only that but many Nvidia GeForce cards have drivers tricked into thinking they are Quattro cards. Not something that is only specific to AMD graphics.
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Quite a driver if it can turn a GPU into this:

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AidenShaw said:
...but then you'd get wise-crackers asking "when's it going to be renamed 'waiting for Skylake-EP'" !

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Nevermind, the next iteration for this thread should be "Waiting for Zen Mac Pro...", in my heart I'm waiting for either Power8 Mac Pro or Itanium Mac Pro (on 8 nm process)... And a Mix of Altera FPGA OR an MIC accelerator based on ARM and AMD Navi GPU just to keep nVidia fans crying for CUDA.
 
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Considering AMD reputation in overhyping their upcoming tech and then under delivering, I would wait for zen to make it to market and being tested before betting the house on it...
 
tuxon86 said:
Considering AMD reputation in overhyping their upcoming tech and then under delivering, I would wait for zen to make it to market and being tested before betting the house on it...
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Right on. I bought a dozen Opteron servers because the AMD version of the "Reality Distortion Field" was strong. Sent them to eWaste years ago without ever seriously using them.
 
I think Apple is just waiting for Intel to ship Union Bay Xeons before updating the MacPro. By that time they will also redesign the case, which will look like this:

om_one_prototype_by_om_audio_2.jpg


It will be the best Mac they have ever made, trust me. Remember where you heard it first!
 
linuxcooldude said:
Switching to a PC won't get rid of the vendor lockin with Nvidia with some third party apps. You will still continued to get kicked in the nuts by Nvidia.
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I dont care so much about a vendor lock with there videocards. You know what i do care? I do care that my video renders two times faster, i do care when i can see live my effects i drop on a video before i push them to a render, i do care that my filters in Photoshop are almost realtime rendered when i drop them on a layer, i do care that my system is blazing fast. I know, you can argue about OpenCL etc.. All i know, is that my tools are asking for CUDA and openCL and that AMD is not providing this off course. That the old majority of the Mac users where creative content makers, should Apple think to at-least give you a choice. But that would be a change in the arrogant road map of Apple off-course. And i wont see that happen in the next bilion years! So, thats why i have to move, and many others all-ready did.

If you want a nice looking machine, go for a imac. If you are a FCX user, you're fine with a mac pro. If you are more power demanding with Cuda hungry tools (a lot of content creating tools), you have to think about to switch or swallow Apple and pay the premium platinum price for average. But, you have a nice shiny round computer. And.. like is said before... thats cool too! :)
 
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Should Apple think to at-least give you a choice.
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Some people want Apple to give you a choice, but seem to be fine when third party apps don't. The question should be why does Adobe not provide better support for AMD cards. Or are they simply too arrogant to provide the same support for the two major graphic card companies?
 
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I don't know, but was CUDA ever a viable proposition on OSX?

There seems to be a lot of moaning about its absence on this here subforum, but if it never really was available for OSX anyway, how can you chalk that one up to the nMP?


You don't have to like the nMP, but citing inability to run CUDA as one of its shortcomings seems a little weird to me.
 
zephonic said:
I don't know, but was CUDA ever a viable proposition on OSX?

There seems to be a lot of moaning about its absence on this here subforum, but if it never really was available for OSX anyway, how can you chalk that one up to the nMP?


You don't have to like the nMP, but citing inability to run CUDA as one of its shortcomings seems a little weird to me.
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Okay. I don't need cuda. I need dingleberry-x. It's a technology put out by this small company called Taint-corp which makes special cards for doing smegma effects. I can't seem to figure out how to plug in this pcie card in to the nMP. But it plugs rights into the oMP without any hassle. ISN'T THAT WEIRD?!
 
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If the change of the name will be only cosmetic - it will be absolutely meaningless.
If the new name will bring new "mechanics", everything new under the hood - it will be meaningful.

Only Apple knows what they are planning.

http://www.techpowerup.com/221129/microsoft-details-shader-model-6-0.html

I have learned this at this very moment, it is potentially important also for Metal, Apple.

It looks like HLSL will be Open Source...
 
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Derpage said:
Okay. I don't need cuda. I need dingleberry-x. It's a technology put out by this small company called Taint-corp which makes special cards for doing smegma effects. I can't seem to figure out how to plug in this pcie card in to the nMP. But it plugs rights into the oMP without any hassle. ISN'T THAT WEIRD?!
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about as weird as being able to plug fw800 into cmp and not nmp.. or dvi.. or optical audio.
 
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Derpage said:
Okay. I don't need cuda. I need dingleberry-x. It's a technology put out by this small company called Taint-corp which makes special cards for doing smegma effects. I can't seem to figure out how to plug in this pcie card in to the nMP. But it plugs rights into the oMP without any hassle. ISN'T THAT WEIRD?!
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Does it have a splash guard to keep the smegma from hitting other cards?
 
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