Anyone expect SSD prices to drop? Right now it's a whopping $200 to go from 256 to 512 GB SSD. Really hoping 512 becomes base level.
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2017 iMac refresh wish list [merged]
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The upgrade price to 512GB is more or less the price of a decent PCIe NVMe 256GB SSD.
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Wait. FCP is proven to be much more efficient on similar hardware than say premiere pro on Mac or pc (I'm a premiere pro user) And Windows 10 with all of its auto updates still is not up to OSX quality or resource efficiency. If you actually price out truly identical hardware, you can't save much with a PC. The 5k screen is amazing and the nvram is lightning fast. Again, fcp is optimized for the gpu in the imac. Wait.
After a second thought, Ryzen is actually having a high chance. Assuming Ryzen hits the expected performance, the AM4 platform actually scales beyond i7 7700K to i7 6900K (eight Broadwell cores!) while still remaining in the 95W cap, which gives a broader and more diverse set of options to the iMac stack that spans across multiple price points.
Moreover, Intel is expected not to response until Coffee Lake. The desktop line is also deprioritized for node transitions, which means Ryzen is likely to stay competitive for at least four to six quarters. Apple could stick to it for two generations, and migrate back to Intel as appropriate.
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Or it's a sign that the iMac will be coming around the time of the new iPads and will just be a "spec refresh" and not a revised design so there is nothing for the supply chain to leak.
That is what I hope for: newest processors, USB-C -- AND no price increase!
Well, changing ports means a new chassis. I can see the apparent chance of replacing the 4+2 ports with four TB3 ports, while only the Eternet port survives but not the SD card slot.
Maybe Apple would be nice enough to slap two more non-TB USB-C ports, maybe not.
That time could be spent to bring better performance to the already [if rumors are true!] powerful Ryzen. Coffee Lake is the 6 core replacing the i7 4 core, correct? If these rumors are true, and we'll find out in a couple of weeks, it's going to make PC tech interesting again.
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Most companies that manufacture the chips are retooling at the moment for the next architecture jump. Along with the increased need of DDR4 and SSD chips in computers and devices, we're going to see partially inflated prices until around Q2 2018.
I wouldn't put much hope on Ryzen though. Apple might still prefer better single thread performance over # of cores, which would perhaps be a priority of Mac Pro (if this thing still exists).
All I hope is that they ship with Polaris 10 in early March. That's it.
Aren't the majority of mid and high grade macOS software optimized for MT rather than ST?I wouldn't put much hope on Ryzen though. Apple might still prefer better single thread performance over # of cores, which would perhaps be a priority of Mac Pro (if this thing still exists).
All I hope is that they ship with Polaris 10 in early March. That's it.
Nice single-thread performance gives you a larger base to multiply upon. Moreover, it is not like every aspects of these apps would scale well either. Say exporting scales well because it has the parallelism, but the interactive UI does not.
NVIDIA GPU's.We pay for premium computers and components.AMD is garbage only for poor people to build cheap pc's.No offense to poor people but we get what we pay for in this life.
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While I don't think AMD is that bad, it would be pretty awesome to see the mobile versions of Nvidia's GTX 1080 and 1070 show up in the iMac.
AMD have most certainly been on the back foot for the past decade but things change. Maybe this year.
AMD has just officially unveiled their (top of the line) Ryzen processors, available 2nd of March.
.. oh my. It included an 8-core processor (R7-1700) with just 65W TDP.
Kind of makes me intrigued of the possibility of a processor like that in iMac use. Would be exciting to see, even though it naturally is more prone that Kaby Lake will be the processor family available.
.. oh my. It included an 8-core processor (R7-1700) with just 65W TDP.
Kind of makes me intrigued of the possibility of a processor like that in iMac use. Would be exciting to see, even though it naturally is more prone that Kaby Lake will be the processor family available.
I've never seen thunderbolt on an AMD computer, which makes sense since it's an Intel developed technology.
With how heavily Apple is invested in TB, I think we can stop the talk of AMD processors.
With how heavily Apple is invested in TB, I think we can stop the talk of AMD processors.
Agreed - TB-aspect casually slipped my mind, but it is indeed crucial. Interesting times in the world of CPUs nonetheless for those who entertain the thought of building their own system.
Anyone think they'll ever come out with a full sized magic keyboard? They used to have one but their only full size option now is the wired keyboard with an older design. Almost a year and a half since they updated the compact version.
With any other company it would seem obvious. Microsoft offers a nice wireless full size with their new Surface Studio. Seems reasonable for desktop users, wireless+full layout. But it also feels like it's "asking too much" from Apple at this point to have options, everything is 'niche' compared to iPhones. So not sure if they'll actually do it or not.
With any other company it would seem obvious. Microsoft offers a nice wireless full size with their new Surface Studio. Seems reasonable for desktop users, wireless+full layout. But it also feels like it's "asking too much" from Apple at this point to have options, everything is 'niche' compared to iPhones. So not sure if they'll actually do it or not.
Ryzen seems to have same ST specs and higher MT than Skylake, at half the price.
It would help to lower the price of Macs and who cares if it's 5% slower than Kaby Lake.
Whatever they choose, I just hope they will introduce the new iMac at the March event.
It would help to lower the price of Macs and who cares if it's 5% slower than Kaby Lake.
Whatever they choose, I just hope they will introduce the new iMac at the March event.
TB3 on an AM4 platform is less a technological hurdle than a licencing one that could easily be sorted by mobo manufacturers - including Apple. I'd also find it pretty hard to imagine Apple boxing themselves into the blue corner for the sake of thunderbolt.
Ryzen 7 1700 seems to be a good candidate. Cheaper, with a higher MT performance than the i7 7700K, more cores than the usual i5 in 2015 iMacs and although it may have slower specs on ST than the i7, it will still beat the i5.
1700X could be a higher option, but with 95W TDP I doubt it unless we're talking about a redesign.
TDP of the 1700 is 65W, which should fit, given the savings on thermal heat by the Polaris architecture.
Does the iMac rely on dual channel memory? If so, there will be no change. However, it appears Ryzen will support 3 GHz DDR4 and maybe even 3.6 GHz.
AMD showed Apple as an OEM partner at the presentation of a CPU... It could be a sign (and it could not mean anything, a well!).
1700X could be a higher option, but with 95W TDP I doubt it unless we're talking about a redesign.
TDP of the 1700 is 65W, which should fit, given the savings on thermal heat by the Polaris architecture.
Does the iMac rely on dual channel memory? If so, there will be no change. However, it appears Ryzen will support 3 GHz DDR4 and maybe even 3.6 GHz.
AMD showed Apple as an OEM partner at the presentation of a CPU... It could be a sign (and it could not mean anything, a well!).
Well I have checked and see neither Apple logo there nor any single reference to Apple in the press release.
