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Question for the experts... I had a mid 2010 iMac (2.8 i7, 16gb Ram, 1TB HDD)-sorry can't remember the graphics but would the new base 3.4 i5 iMac 27 machines be a major step up in processing power. Would this i5 be a major step up from my 6 year old i7.

assume graphics would be a major leap but sorry i don't know what my old mac had.

I have a late 2013 mac pro (2.4 i5, 8g Ram, intel iris 1GB) - assume the base 27 inch would kick my laptops ass?
 
what a joke, +200 extra to put the 256ssd in it.

does anyone know if the hard drive can be changed or is it soldered? i'm comfortable working on computers

id put my own ram in it too

looking at the 21.5imac mid level one

I'm sitting on a 2009 24in iMac right now which is in dire need of an upgrade, tough going from 24in to 21.5in screen
 
what a joke, +200 extra to put the 256ssd in it.

does anyone know if the hard drive can be changed or is it soldered? i'm comfortable working on computers

id put my own ram in it too

looking at the 21.5imac mid level one

I'm sitting on a 2009 24in iMac right now which is in dire need of an upgrade, tough going from 24in to 21.5in screen
the extra 200$ is for 512 SSD
 
Hey y'all… just curious…

What would $5,000 get you if you configured the previous-generation iMac to this price?

Or could you even spec it up that high?

I know the 2015 27" 5K iMac starting prices were from $1,800 to $2,300... but I don't remember the upgrades and options prices.
 
However you spec a 2015 iMac, you'll get something that has fewer CPU cores (4 vs 8) and like 5 times less TeraFLOPs of GPU power than the iMac Pro.
 
However you spec a 2015 iMac, you'll get something that has fewer CPU cores (4 vs 8) and like 5 times less TeraFLOPs of GPU power than the iMac Pro.

Of course. I was just curious about the prices.

The iMac Pro starts with 32GB of RAM and 1TB of super-fast PCIe SSD storage. Those items would have been rather costly upgrades on older iMacs.

And yes... the 8-core Xeon and Vega graphics are in a whole other league too.

My point was... to anyone who thinks this computer is expensive... you're actually getting a lot compared to previous iMacs.

EDIT... I was sorta correct. I'm finding the maxed-out 2015 5K iMac was $4,100. And that was a 4c8t processor with OK-ish graphics.

So yeah... this iMac Pro is a beast.
 
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It appears iMac Pro has non user replaceable RAM.

This is correct. Apple confirmed it in another article that I read, which means we're going to have to max out as much RAM as we can afford come December. I'm going to 64GB, doubt I'll be able to go up to 128GB.

Do we think the RAM will be the same as the current iMac RAM 64GB RAM? Or will it be even more expensive for 64GB RAM?
 
Of course. I was just curious about the prices.

The iMac Pro starts with 32GB of RAM and 1TB of super-fast PCIe SSD storage. Those items would have been rather costly upgrades on older iMacs.

And yes... the 8-core Xeon and Vega graphics are in a whole other league too.

My point was... to anyone who thinks this computer is expensive... you're actually getting a lot compared to previous iMacs.

EDIT... I was sorta correct. I'm finding the maxed-out 2015 5K iMac was $4,100. And that was a 4c8t processor with OK-ish graphics.

So yeah... this iMac Pro is a beast.

Most definitely a beast! I had the top spec iMac in my basket last night, and I was doing the comparisons as you do. The difference was stark when you consider the processor and video card upgrades are monstrous. This is a killer iMac. I wouldn't splash £4K on the current iMac when I can splash £5k on the iMac Pro and get so much more bang for the buck.
Just praying my 2011 MacBook Pro (updated with 1TB SSD and 16GB RAM) holds out until Christmas. I have about 10-12 weddings to edit (4K video streams x 3) on there, but it's held out so far using Proxy media. If I can get to the end of the year with it and upgrade to the iMac Pro, the wait will have been worth it.
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No iMac has ever used ECC RAM... so I'm guessing, no?

If you meant Mac Pro RAM... maybe. But 2013 was a looong time ago...

How much extra would we need to pay on this ECC RAM at a guess?

Here's a comparison:

Current iMac jump from 32GB RAM (which will be standard on the iMac Pro) to 64GB RAM is £720. If ECC RAM is more costly, then would it not be wise to think that Apple may make it £995 for the jump to 64GB RAM?

Interestingly, the jump for ECC RAM in the old Mac Pro was DDR3 and not DDR4, and that jump alone is £720 for the same movement of 32GB RAM to 64GB RAM....

Therefore, it's whether those jumps are default price jumps for the models, or more likely that we are going to have to pay a whole lot more for DDR4 ECC 64GB RAM.
 
Just curious, I have iMac 27 late 2015, I have some burns on the screen at the bottom left corner, I am preparing to go to Apple Store to see what can be done, it's quièt far from where I live, is there a chance that I can return this mac due to defects and get 2017 late iMac?
 
Anyone see the HDD speed for the 27 Fusion? I saw 5400 for the 21.5, but did not see the spec for the 27.
 
Looking back at my prediction for the first post on the thread 6+ months ago (which was pretty basic and based on most people's assumptions) we were right about the CPU, graphics processor, memory and the like. Very wrong about a redesign, though the iMac Pro in space gray does share a bit in common with the LG monitor. I wonder if there will be space gray trackpad?
 
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I wonder if there will be space gray trackpad?

That is what was shown. I wonder if it will be a standalone option or replacement part of sorts.

By the way, this imac pro setup the way someone who actually needed all that power would do it is going to cost way more than $5k. Just getting to 64 gb ram and a 2TB drive alone is going to send the cost sky high. Basically this really is a pro machine for very specific purposes like high end rendering, etc. A maxed out imac 2017 with 3rd party ram on a price/performance basis will come out way ahead, not to mention plenty fast. I'm a total spec nut and even I couldn't justify even the base model imac pro which I'm sure I'd have to bto to some extent. I just wish they regular imac was offered in space grey.
 
And if the base iMac Pro is using the Intel® Xeon® Processor E5-2667 v4, which I think it could be, that is a $2000 CPU at retail. Even with Apple's discounts, it's going to be a significant portion of that $5000 price.
 
Hmmm... I think Apple has just presented me with the iMac as a viable machine. Because I like the smaller one, and now it has a 4K screen and dedicated GPU, the exact same as the top end 15" MacBook Pro which is a lot more expensive, plus fusion drive and reasonable memory options. Not only that but with USB C TB3 and it's seemingly supporting attitude to EGPU, then I could get a break out box and the iMac 21" will be a machine that can be upgraded, kind of.
I think I may get the new iPad Pro 10.5" first to replace my 9.7" though, but I could do with a new computer..

Yeas.... they have made the iMac a very interesting machine to me indeed..... my 7 year old MB Pro is kinda dying these days, still I'm impressed I have a laptop that does still work after 7 years!
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I wonder if the 580 will suffer from the heat that m295x did

I'm not sure but I 'think' Kaby Lake runs cooler, so that will help it. I mean in the updated Surface Pro the Kaby Lake i5 model has no fan!
 
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And if the base iMac Pro is using the Intel® Xeon® Processor E5-2667 v4, which I think it could be, that is a $2000 CPU at retail. Even with Apple's discounts, it's going to be a significant portion of that $5000 price.

They are going to use a v6 (Kaby Lake) chip that's not out yet.

BTW, iMac 5K buyers, it has 8 DIMM slots and the base models comes with 2x4GB, so you have two slots free.
 
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