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My 6.1 8core CPU never goes below 3.4ghz even after 24h renderjob. It is not that it can’t handle the thermal of CPU+GPU, it’s just that it can’t take anymore than that and today hardware require quite a lot more.
 
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My 6.1 8core CPU never goes below 3.4ghz even after 24h renderjob.
Can you tell me how to see the ghz of a cpu in MacOS?

I use istat menu bar which I really like for showing how much cpu percentage is being used. (Always not enough in after effects, and always full when C4D rendering). But it doesn’t show ghz and I’d love to know if my 6,1 is being thermally throttled, which as yours I don’t think it is.

thanks!
 
That’s the problem. If we know we will get an update every year, it’s a no brainer to wait. But it’s equally possible (if not more likely) that this is the last Mac Pro ever....

It’s tough to know...

I mean in a way I hope they don't update the 2019 Mac Pro very often. My 2013 Mac Pro has been such good value as it has lasted 6 years without an update, even though it has been a painful wait for this Mac Pro.

I'm hoping their plan is to keep it up to date with new MPX modules over time. But in classic apple style they don't say anything about future plans, and we have to guess about the future of a £6000 investment.
 
Use Intel power gadget: https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/intel-power-gadget
My 8core has an all core turbo of 3.4ghz.
It's a common mith that the 6.1 is thermal throttled, folks use to repeat that until becomes an accepted truth.
Here CPU runs at full speed. When Apple talked about thermal corner it didn't mean the machine was throttling, it means that it can not handle todays larger CPU/GPU.
My 8core have a TDP of 130W, add a couple GPUs and you have already reached the limit of the 6.1.
A modern Xeon W have a TDP of over 200W, a couple modern GPU needs easily over 600W, there was no way to fit all of that inside the 6.1 envelope that is rated for under 500W, that's why they abandoned the project.
The 7.1 MXM modules are rated for 500W each and the CPU cooler is rated for 300W, so thermal limits should not be a ploblem for the foreseable future.
 
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The under clocking would be so significant it would just be wasting everyone's time. Everyone would just complain instead what a bad machine the Mac Pro was, and they still wouldn't buy them.

I'm not even sure you could under clock a modern Xeon to fit in that case. Not unless you stepped down to a really low end Xeon.
I hope the modder community keeps it alive.
 
I am needing a new computer now. I have been back and forth between the 2019 i9 iMac vs the iMac Pro mostly due to 2019 iMac is $1,000+ cheaper WITH more internal SSD and after market RAM upgrade for me than the base model iMac Pro. However, the cooling on the iMacs give me some concern about them.

I want to get a new system that I can still use 5+ years later. I am still using my 2010 Mac Pro for some tasks. While I am not thrilled about the pricing of the 2019 Mac Pro, would this be the better option if I want the system to last 5+ years? Or will the iMac/iMac Pro last that long too?

This is also depending on the upgrade pricing of the 256 GB stock SSD in the Mac Pro.

No

Buy for 3 years, and plan to upgrade on that cycle. Planning for 5 years on an expensive machine is a bad idea because....
  • You’re overpaying for hardware unless you need that spec TODAY
    • hardware will be cheaper in future if/when you actually need it
  • running the gauntlet vs. hardware failure. warranty is only available up to 3 years. planning to keep a machine 5 years and having it fail out of warranty after 3 = you blew your money for nothing
  • in 3-5 year’s time (sooner, even) things like USB4, thunderbolt 4, etc. will be available. DDR5 will be available. you’ll get a much faster system in 2-3 years for less money than you will today, especially if you take IO standards into consideration.
  • At the 3 year mark you can even sell your old machine for reasonable money to fund the new one
My macbook is currently 4, but that’s because apple do not make a portable i currently want, so i’m currently overdue for an upgrade with no upgrade path. I didn’t intend to keep it this long.

If you get 5 years out of a machine, great. But don’t try and over-buy vs. what you need today, hoping to push an upgrade out further than 3 or so. You’re wasting your money in that case.

If you need high spec today, go nuts. But if you don’t.... attempting to future proof to that degree is over-paying and risking the machine dying before 5 years anyway.
 
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