2020 Air Heatsink Modification Thread

[PhightinPhils26]

I'm not sure if this is an anomaly, but after upgrading to Big Sur, and running GeekBench, my fans haven't been kicking up NEARLY as much as before. More impressively, in Safari, I watched a 5 minute, 4K, 60 FPS, HDR video on YouTube and the fans topped out around 3500 rpm and the CPU only got to about 85 C.

 

[prism]

I'm not sure if this is an anomaly, but after upgrading to Big Sur, and running GeekBench, my fans haven't been kicking up NEARLY as much as before. More impressively, in Safari, I watched a 5 minute, 4K, 60 FPS, HDR video on YouTube and the fans topped out around 3500 rpm and the CPU only got to about 85 C.

Same experience here, I feel like I have a new machine after upgrading to Big Sur!

 

[nobblan]

Just out of curiosity, can the fact that my MBA fans run high/noisy (and presumably the machine getting hot) damage the machine? I'm using my i5 2020 MBA to play some older games on an external monitor and obviously it gets pretty damn noisy. The game play is fine, I'm just concerned about long term damage.

 

[Random123]

I wonder if the new macbook air will be better with the thermal pad mod there is still the scape to do it?

 

[stonevil]

I wonder if the new macbook air will be better with the thermal pad mod there is still the scape to do it?

Looks much better.

 

[McFlulle]

As others have also noted in this thread, Big Sur has considerably improved performance for me. In my most recent Zoom call, I had 30% CPU usage, 33% fan usage and 70°C CPU temperature on average, on my modded MBA.

 

[prism]

As others have also noted in this thread, Big Sur has considerably improved performance for me. In my most recent Zoom call, I had 30% CPU usage, 33% fan usage and 70°C CPU temperature on average, on my modded MBA.

That is pretty awesome, now if only Apple had put in half decent SSDs like those in the new M1, I would be a very happy camper.

 

[Wojciech Lampa]

Any teardown/disassembly or possibility of upgrading M1 MBA with some thermal pads?

I saw one pulling a fan underneath that improved Heaven results in loop to almost non-throttled, like MBP 13, so there is no software power limit but only thermal limitation and there might be a potential there.

 

[jay-m]

iFixit's disassembly shows big, flat heatsink but it is impossible to judge how much space is there between it's surface and back cover.

I just found 20x130x2mm 6W/mK and 30x30x3mm 1,5W/mK thermal pads in my leftovers drawer, once I get new Air (currently scheduled to be delivered between 10th and 17th) I will stick it between heatsink and back cover and will report back if it fits, if it helps and if it burns the skin off my legs.

 

[Populus]

Any teardown/disassembly or possibility of upgrading M1 MBA with some thermal pads?

I saw one pulling a fan underneath that improved Heaven results in loop to almost non-throttled, like MBP 13, so there is no software power limit but only thermal limitation and there might be a potential there.

iFixit's disassembly shows big, flat heatsink but it is impossible to judge how much space is there between it's surface and back cover.

I just found 20x130x2mm 6W/mK and 30x30x3mm 1,5W/mK thermal pads in my leftovers drawer, once I get new Air (currently scheduled to be delivered between 10th and 17th) I will stick it between heatsink and back cover and will report back if it fits, if it helps and if it burns the skin off my legs.

What I think would be interesting is, in order to enhance the dissipation from the M1 to the heatsink, to put the copper shim between the M1 and the aluminum heatsink, using a better thermal compound. Or, if there is absolutely no gap between the M1 and the dissipator, just replacing the thermal paste for a better one. But that’s just my 2cents, I think the thermal pad between the Heatsink and bottom case will make the Air unconfortably hot to the touch.

 

[buster84]

What I think would be interesting is, in order to enhance the dissipation from the M1 to the heatsink, to put the copper shim between the M1 and the aluminum heatsink, using a better thermal compound. Or, if there is absolutely no gap between the M1 and the dissipator, just replacing the thermal paste for a better one. But that’s just my 2cents, I think the thermal pad between the Heatsink and bottom case will make the Air unconfortably hot to the touch.

Why not find a way to add the fan from the intel 2020 version in this one? It looks like it will fit just fine, the only issue will be related to the wiring which could be setup to run at full speed, partial, or creating a dial that can be user adjustable.

The best scenario would be if someone spent the time to program a chip that can be soldered to the motherboard and to sync the fan speed with the cpu temp (of course this would void your warranty, but it would make it function similar to a macbook pro). That is what im hoping for because I got two airs on the way and I specifically avoided the pro's because of the stupid touchbar so If a mod come to add a fan into the system i'll happily solder it up after the 1 year warranty expires lol.

 

[prism]

There was a genuine concern with the Intel MBA thermals crippling performance, I can’t understand why anyone would bother trying to do the same with the M1, the gains are likely so marginal that it doesn’t justify the effort, but hey, to each his/her own.

 

[IngerMan]

I think the MBA heat sink mods are done for the M1, You seen the reviews and thermals. They are awesome as is. No sense opening up a M1 in my opinion.

 

[nill1234]

I got my M1 and still have the Intel one here. This thing runs cool without any fan. I really like it. But still the Intel one is also very good an no slouch at all.

 

[prism]

I got my M1 and still have the Intel one here. This thing runs cool without any fan. I really like it. But still the Intel one is also very good an no slouch at all.

I agree, people on M1 koolaid are trashing the Intel.

 

[Populus]

Now that I think about it, even if we want to modify the M1 dissipation, even just replacing the thermal paste, we cannot know if it’s effective because there’s no way to know the temperature of the M1 chip.

Maybe with lots of benchmarks and being sure it throttles way after with the new thermal compound...

 

[kinchee87]

As a last hurrah for the 2020 Intel MacBook Air modifications, I've rerun the benchmarks on macOS Big Sur 11.0.1, Intel Power Gadget 3.6.0, Geekbench 5.3.1, and Cinebench R23. When I run the multi-core stress test with Intel Power Gadget, it seems that the max sustained frequency is 100MHz lower than before, but the CPU temperature plateaus at about 80ºC. I guess Big Sur is throttling the CPU even more?

Intel Power Gadget 3.6.0​

Test Type	Result (GHz)
CPU (All Thread Frequency, Scalar)	2.70
CPU (All Thread Frequency, AVX-256)	2.60
CPU (All Thread Frequency, AVX-512)	2.40
Intel Graphics Test (Max Frequency)	1.00

Geekbench 5.3.1​

Test Type	Results (Points)
CPU (Single-core)	1,253
CPU (Multi-core)	3,974
Compute (OpenCL)	9,034
Compute (Metal)	10,383

Cinebench R23​

Test Type	Results (Points)
CPU (Single-core)	1,051
CPU (Multi-core)	3,089
MP Ratio	2.94

 

[PhightinPhils26]

This is probably why we‘ve noticed the fans kicking on less. I haven’t seen a discernible difference in my benchmarking, but I’ve also mostly turned off my monitoring and have just enjoyed using my computer.

 

[prism]

Ok, im going to do the pad and maybe paste mode on my i5 256, 16gb MBA,
my before mod GB test results are as follows:
single: 1051
Multi: 2833
Pretty weak for stock, no?

 

[prism]

I ran the test again...
single: 1082
Multi : 3036
Pretty weak, no?

 

[IngerMan]

I ran the test again...
single: 1082
Multi : 3036
Pretty weak, no?

No! It looks pretty good for what you have. I am sure it feels very zippy as well, yes?

 

[prism]

No! It looks pretty good for what you have. I am sure it feels very zippy as well, yes?

Yes it does, not too shabby performance but what scores should I be realistically aiming for if I do the shin and pad or just the pad mod?

 

[IngerMan]

Well no sense risking the shim and new paste. The Pad is a very easy mod and will yield as big of gains of just doing one of the mods. The pad mod is no different then opening up your laptop and cleaning dust out.

Doing the pad mod with a 1.5mm Arctic pad covering as much of the heat sync you can.

That should raise your single to high 1100's maybe 1200 and Multi 3500's

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[prism]

Bummer, I ordered the 1mm pad as suggested in the first post of this thread!

 

[IngerMan]

Bummer, I ordered the 1mm pad as suggested in the first post of this thread!

That will work as well. I tried a 1mm pad but found it easily broke apart, So I replaced it back to 1.5mm. It was a different brand and that might have been part of it.