2021 and still only 256 GB in Apple Laptops

[Maconplasma]

I'd love to get an M1 device but I'm just very sensible to being ripped of and will probably pick a new Ryzen 5000 laptop up, which probably won't look as nice as the M1, won't have an equally good display and probably half the battery life but at least I'll get upgradable storage, almost twice the processing power of the M1 and upgradable Ram.

I was really enticed to go back to Apple but their business practices just kept me from going back to an old beloved brand.

Interesting priorities. Considers a Windows machine and willing to give up a better screen and better battery life on the Mac just get better base storage. SMH. The ripped off part is enough to show me this is a possible troll thread.

 

[Zazoh]

Are you recording your classes to 4K video?

Programmer in the biz for 25 years. I’m using 46gb of 256. Anything I create goes on a server anyway, so once I’m done, that is where I move it.

I’m not saying op is wrong, I’m saying he’s probably leaving some good options on the table.

 

[Chundles]

You know what? I agree. 256GB is too small. It’s fine for most people but it’s still too small. 1TB should be the default and it should not cost more than the 256GB do right now. Apple can easily afford to eat the margins. 1TB and 2TB should be the standard configs.

 

[majormike]

LMAO! That's all I needed to read. LR the biggest Apple hater on YouTube. Not only that he's not an Apple authorized repair service. Wouldn't trust him with a free repair. He trashes Apple to get YouTube clicks.

He never owned decidedly Apple computersand I find his bias disgusting sometimes.

 

[majormike]

You know what? I agree. 256GB is too small. It’s fine for most people but it’s still too small. 1TB should be the default and it should not cost more than the 256GB do right now. Apple can easily afford to eat the margins. 1TB and 2TB should be the standard configs.

That's my point, if they make it as a standard config, it won't raise the price as much and give the professional customers the required satisfaction.

I do masters in engineering and 256 won't cut it just purely based on my curriculum and files that I need to work on.

 

[Maconplasma]

That's my point, if they make it as a standard config, it won't raise the price as much and give the professional customers the required satisfaction.

Professional customers don't shop for the base storage. They buy the configuration they need since they are making money by use of the laptop.

I do masters in engineering and 256 won't cut it just purely based on my curriculum and files that I need to work on.

Apple is not for you. You've made that clear. Please move on to a choice Windows machine for your needs?

 

[chabig]

Is it really an absurd demand to have 500 Gigabytes in a laptop of a company who cares about user satisfaction?

I checked. They have that, and more...

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[Leon1das]

Back in 2016, I happily switched to Windows 10 because Apple couldn't offer me things I needed for a reasonable price.

Back in 2020, I got really excited, seeing an in-house based chip at a great price point with plenty of battery and portability, to be only disappointed by the mere 256 Gigabytes of storage it comes with.

What upsets me equally is then obviously again the price point for which you go from 256 to 512 Gigabytes. I mean, 50 Euro would be realistic, 100 to 120 I'd be willing to give for the brand premium but 250 is just ludacris.

I don't understand how people just suck up these rip-off prices from a company which claims to care for their customer and user experience.

Even as a student, 256 are not going to be enough. Just papers and docs are about 200 Gigabytes every semester for me and with which memory am I going to install apps now?

These machines don't even come with an sd-card Slot for memory extension.

The only person who'd be able to survive with 256 Gigabytes of non-upgradable storage would be my grandma and she'd probably meet the storage's capacity at some point as well.

I'd love to get an M1 device but I'm just very sensible to being ripped of and will probably pick a new Ryzen 5000 laptop up, which probably won't look as nice as the M1, won't have an equally good display and probably half the battery life but at least I'll get upgradable storage, almost twice the processing power of the M1 and upgradable Ram.

I was really enticed to go back to Apple but their business practices just kept me from going back to an old beloved brand.

I was in the same boat as you... looking to buy my next Windows laptop...

BUT

Lack of Ryzen availability + various OEM ****** combos of bad screens and cooling solutions - made me sick of the lottery and I got the M1 MBA, and later M1 MBP as a first Mac devices I use in my life. And I would not go back now..

Even if I had found the right Ryzen laptop to buy - the price for the specs (>FHD screen, decent cooling, nice keyboard, big battery) would be same or higher versus M1 Mac.

Good luck...

 

[dmccloud]

Louis Rossman knows as much about the Mac as Britney Spears knows about nuclear physics...

 

[dmccloud]

The point of a laptop is to be portable wherever you are. With cloud accounts and NAS you pretty much compensate obviously for the lack of standard space.

I don't like the idea of uploading personal data to a cloud and a NAS isn't really portable.

You know, if i didn't give a **** about Apple, I wouldn't have put up the energy to make such a post on a board I deem frequented by most Apple Users.

Most windows laptops ship with either 128GB or 256GB as the base storage, so your entire argument regarding storage is meaningless and hypocritical. Those 512GB Wintel laptops in the same price range as the MBA/MBP will lag behind the equivalent Macs in at least one of several ways: build quality, screen quality, performance, battery life, or heat.

 

[Jonr515]

When does the whining and complaining stop? 200 Gb for school work sounds insane unless you are talking about video projects and if that was the case there is no way anyone would select a 256gb storage option.

 

[dmccloud]

When does the whining and complaining stop? 200 Gb for school work sounds insane unless you are talking about video projects and if that was the case there is no way anyone would select a 256gb storage option.

I was wondering that myself. I'm wrapping up my 2nd year on an IT degree, and all of the programs I use (and have used) for my classes and my papers, presentations, etc. still don't even use more than 10-15GB of space combined.

 

[Ethosik]

People do realize its not just Apple right? So you switched to Windows 10 because Apple is a criminal for offering 256GB as a base? How do you explain this then?

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[ian87w]

Back in 2016, I happily switched to Windows 10 because Apple couldn't offer me things I needed for a reasonable price.

Back in 2020, I got really excited, seeing an in-house based chip at a great price point with plenty of battery and portability, to be only disappointed by the mere 256 Gigabytes of storage it comes with.

What upsets me equally is then obviously again the price point for which you go from 256 to 512 Gigabytes. I mean, 50 Euro would be realistic, 100 to 120 I'd be willing to give for the brand premium but 250 is just ludacris.

I don't understand how people just suck up these rip-off prices from a company which claims to care for their customer and user experience.

Even as a student, 256 are not going to be enough. Just papers and docs are about 200 Gigabytes every semester for me and with which memory am I going to install apps now?

These machines don't even come with an sd-card Slot for memory extension.

The only person who'd be able to survive with 256 Gigabytes of non-upgradable storage would be my grandma and she'd probably meet the storage's capacity at some point as well.

I'd love to get an M1 device but I'm just very sensible to being ripped of and will probably pick a new Ryzen 5000 laptop up, which probably won't look as nice as the M1, won't have an equally good display and probably half the battery life but at least I'll get upgradable storage, almost twice the processing power of the M1 and upgradable Ram.

I was really enticed to go back to Apple but their business practices just kept me from going back to an old beloved brand.

This is the same company that sticks 16GB on a phone for the longest time, so what do you expect? Apple is about setting the marketing with a good base price of barely enough spec, and tempt you to upgrade to their next tier where they get better margins. It's one of the classic marketing trick. Upsize your Mac!

 

[Ethosik]

For someone that has the following - I am only using 179GB of space. It is HIGHLY recommended you work on your data on external drives. I have a Thunderbolt NVME external storage that is just as fast as the internal SSD.

Adobe After Effects with various plugins
Adobe Illustrator
Adobe Media Encoder
Adobe Illustrator
Adobe Photoshop
Adobe Premiere Pro
Affinity Designer
Affinity Photo
Browsers
Compressor
Final Cut Pro
Garageband and ALL available loops
Logic Pro and ALL available loops
iWork software
Main Stage and ALL available loops
Motion
Transmit
Xcode and various SDKs
Visual Studio for Mac

70GB of my space is all those loops I have downloaded.

 

[Ethosik]

Louis Rossman who repairs them on a daily basis, before the M1

Isn't this the guy that just bashes on Apple non stop? Yeah that is a non-biased opinion of engineering.

And you do know that the majority of Windows based laptops actually perform much less when on battery power right?

 

[JouniS]

256 GB is ok for a desktop but low for a laptop. Laptops are mobile devices, so they can't rely as much on external devices as desktops. External storage is inconvenient in many situations, and internet connections are often too slow and unreliable for cloud storage.

When I traveled with my MBP, I often needed 100-200 GB for games and photos. Games use a lot of space these days, and I found it convenient to store photos on the laptop until I got home.

 

[majormike]

Then why are you here? You even made it clear in your original post that you are considering another Windows laptop. I'd say go for it. You're praising Windows machines and you're stating over and over how you feel Apple is cheating you in regards to base storage. Simple, don't buy a Mac. Not sure what you were going to accomplish by this rant? Apple is not reading your posts and they will make changes when they see fit. Get the Dell. That sounds like the right machine for you.

It's about having been a loyal apple customer and wanting change.

Most windows laptops ship with either 128GB or 256GB as the base storage, so your entire argument regarding storage is meaningless and hypocritical. Those 512GB Wintel laptops in the same price range as the MBA/MBP will lag behind the equivalent Macs in at least one of several ways: build quality, screen quality, performance, battery life, or heat.

I cat cat files, renders and eagle with videos that border on 200 Gigabytes every semester. The video files alone take 60% of that.

I travel to fellow students to study together with and having external drives does not only drain my battery but it is also cumbersome to always have to switch the files around. I'm just saying that 512 would be a contemporary Standard for even the average user. And by average I just mean somebody who has a few apps installed and browses the internet.

 

[majormike]

Isn't this the guy that just bashes on Apple non stop? Yeah that is a non-biased opinion of engineering.

And you do know that the majority of Windows based laptops actually perform much less when on battery power right?

Yes that's why I love apple but whatever they define as base model is a very conservative way of forcing you to buy additional storage yu have to hook up your Apple's purchase on.

I just mean for apple, who cares about user experiences, especially with their high quality cameras and consequential storage capacity doesn't correspond with what they offer in basic storage for their Macbooks and the price uplift to extend it to 512 is just a very monetary abusive manner. Going from 256 to 1 tb would be fine for what they ask for but not 500.

What upsets me the most is that everybody is seemingly fine with it.

I've by the way ordered a macbook pro M1 with 16 gigs of RAM and 512 Gigabytes of storage but i feel cheated when it comes to the storage.

It'll arrive in 2-3 weeks.

Ram i understand, especially when it is high frequency of 4200 MHz but storage is so cheap by now, it's just ripping off the customer.

Even though I had to turn on a blind eye, remembering my Mac Mini already came with 16 gigs in 2013, which is soon 8 years ago.

 

[Maconplasma]

It's about having been a loyal apple customer and wanting change.

Loyal? Nope. You said it yourself you left Apple and returned to Windows in 2016. You already changed....to Windows. Then in your original post you said you were considering a Ryzen-based PC because you didn't like Apple's base configuration. That's not a loyal customer.

I cat cat files, renders and eagle with videos that border on 200 Gigabytes every semester.

I have no idea what you said here. Typo?

The video files alone take 60% of that.

I travel to fellow students to study together with and having external drives does not only drain my battery but it is also cumbersome to always have to switch the files around. I'm just saying that 512 would be a contemporary Standard for even the average user. And by average I just mean somebody who has a few apps installed and browses the internet.

You're sounding like there's no way to get more than 256GB. You're complaining about something that's really senseless to complain about because you can't change this. That's how Apple sells their base configurations. If you need more storage then up the configuration. I'm not kidding here but I have 100% belief that this is troll thread and everyone else here should be able to see that. You said yourself that you would be willing to buy the Dell with a worse screen, worse battery life just because it's base configuration has 512GB SSD. That's the craziest nonsense I've ever heard and that alone shows me we're being trolled here. ?

 

[Maconplasma]

Yes that's why I love apple but whatever they define as base model is a very conservative way of forcing you to buy additional storage yu have to hook up your Apple's purchase on.

Don't lie because if you were running a major corporation you would do the same. Apple puts their money in great screens, obviously the best laptop-class processors and exceptional build quality. That's what you're paying for.

I just mean for apple, who cares about user experiences, especially with their high quality cameras and consequential storage capacity doesn't correspond with what they offer in basic storage for their Macbooks and the price uplift to extend it to 512 is just a very monetary abusive manner. Going from 256 to 1 tb would be fine for what they ask for but not 500.

What upsets me the most is that everybody is seemingly fine with it.

Ugh I'm so done with this thread. We're are all being trolled by the OP. He just wants to trash Apple in every post arguing for nothing. When he gets called out to buy a Windows machine he ignores the post. He also ignores the posts of people that are fine with the 256GB base storage. Hey man you can't change this so I don't know why are you even here arguing and beating a dead horse? If you need to be so cheap then get that Ryzen PC.

 

[majormike]

For someone that has the following - I am only using 179GB of space. It is HIGHLY recommended you work on your data on external drives. I have a Thunderbolt NVME external storage that is just as fast as the internal SSD.

Adobe After Effects with various plugins
Adobe Illustrator
Adobe Media Encoder
Adobe Illustrator
Adobe Photoshop
Adobe Premiere Pro
Affinity Designer
Affinity Photo
Browsers
Compressor
Final Cut Pro
Garageband and ALL available loops
Logic Pro and ALL available loops
iWork software
Main Stage and ALL available loops
Motion
Transmit
Xcode and various SDKs
Visual Studio for Mac

70GB of my space is all those loops I have downloaded.

And now add third part samples and contents and you'll be adding another 150.

 

[majormike]

Don't lie because if you were running a major corporation you would do the same. Apple puts their money in great screens, obviously the best laptop-class processors and exceptional build quality. That's what you're paying for.

Ugh I'm so done with this thread. We're are all being trolled by the OP. He just wants to trash Apple in every post arguing for nothing. When he gets called out to buy a Windows machine he ignores the post. He also ignores the posts of people that are fine with the 256GB base storage. Hey man you can't change this so I don't know why are you even here arguing and beating a dead horse? If you need to be so cheap then get that Ryzen PC.

If Apple Computers didn't mean anything to me, to be frank, i just simply wouldn't give a ****. 256 Gigabytes requires to have external storage to survive in a system that is not upgradable. If they had 320 Gigabytes I'd probably happy with it but 256 is not enough, it's just too close to what you need nowadays.

Or go for 380 I dunno but 256 is just too close to what you'd saturate nowdays.

They've played the same game with 128 and keep doing it with 256 until it is totally unexceptable.

 

[mi7chy]

MBA M1 256GB isn't as bad as it's slow. It feels like eMMC which is < SATA < NVMe. For comparison, storage in my $500 256GB Lenovo Yoga 6 feels and boots much faster.

 

[majormike]

MBA M1 256GB isn't as bad as it's slow. It feels like eMMC which is < SATA < NVMe. For comparison, storage in my $500 Lenovo Yoga 6 feels and boots much faster.

That's because a 512 Gigabytes drive will be faster than 256, depending on the drive inherently.