That seems like a shortsighted comment. Don't limit yourself to media consumption. Make something.
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2021 Ipad Pros
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Lol that's a weird comment. Why would a 512 GB be a bad choice but 128 GB wouldn't on a device without expandable storage?
Too expensive for me. I’d rather get a laptop at those prices, and M1 MacBook Air imo is a lot more attractive (plus it does come with a keyboard, not sold separately). I’m not a creator or AR designer, so I don’t need all the fancy iPad hardware.
I do see Apple’s intention. Seems like there’s an emerging use case for an iPad as a single device production unit, especially in younger professionals or amateurs. For example, normally one would need a separate camcorder, computer, and a Wacom tablet to create digital contents/publishing materials. Now one can do all that with just an iPad Pro, which saves money for a small business or amateur content creators. It’s an interesting proposition, definitely.
I do see Apple’s intention. Seems like there’s an emerging use case for an iPad as a single device production unit, especially in younger professionals or amateurs. For example, normally one would need a separate camcorder, computer, and a Wacom tablet to create digital contents/publishing materials. Now one can do all that with just an iPad Pro, which saves money for a small business or amateur content creators. It’s an interesting proposition, definitely.
Well, its just in an odd placement. I think Apple should of started with 256gb on the 12.9 iPad Pro, let's look at the pricing.
128gb = 1099
256gb = 1199
512gb = 1399
1 TB = 1799
2 TB = 2199
Expanding storage isn't really a issue. Portable SSD external drives are getting cheaper by the day. I'm looking at how Apple attached RAM on the storage tiers. I think if there's an option to buy 512gb or 1 TB model... why not spend the extra 400 bucks to get the 16GB RAM?
That is an over simplified answer. The problem is for the price and hardware specs I can "make something" faster and easier on my MBP than on any iPad. It will take less accessories and dongles and less effort "make something" on any MBA or MBP.
Especially when Apple are known for a great blend of OS and their own chips, not needing as much ram as their Android counterparts.
I'll await a stupid emoji from a certain someone who somehow thinks it's a form of proper discussion.
As a 12.9 pro user it’s damn typical the MK it seems won’t work with the new 12.9 Pro. I certainly won’t be buyimg a new MK. Will just use Smart Cover and use my M1 air for times I need a keyboard.
What? the existing magic keyboards wont work with the new iPads? They didnt even announce new MKs other than a white color.
Edit: Just saw the report. Wow, thats the most Apple thing of all time. No mention of it and just another way to squeeze money from their customers.
Let me first preface this with, I’m not trying to defend Apple here. But I don’t think Apple deliberately set out to make users go out and buy a brand new MK. If that was the case... They would of set out to make the 2nd generation Apple Pencil incompatible with the new iPads. I was relieved when no new Apple Pencil was announced.
I obviously don’t have a horse in the race, because I don’t own a MK nor have any intention on buying it. But I think it’s just the case of that added new display technology.
I've had several iPad Pro 12.9 before and ultimately always end up going back to Windows (for work) with an Android Tablet on the side; but I'm really really tempted by the 1TB/16GB RAM model; this last year I've been doing loads more photo editing work, graphic design and video; I already know how good Affinity Photo and Lumafusion are along with some apps I use on Android/Windows (Lightroom mainly).
The new "center stage" camera looks like it solves on of my main complaints from last year which was the now "odd" camera placement (top of the tablet in "portrait") but I'd like to see proper external screen support as well; its really handy being able to plug my Galaxy Tab S7+ into a second screen to work off of.
Its a lot of cash but could be the all in one device I've been looking for potentially; especially with a few extra bits of functionality added to iPadOS
The new "center stage" camera looks like it solves on of my main complaints from last year which was the now "odd" camera placement (top of the tablet in "portrait") but I'd like to see proper external screen support as well; its really handy being able to plug my Galaxy Tab S7+ into a second screen to work off of.
Its a lot of cash but could be the all in one device I've been looking for potentially; especially with a few extra bits of functionality added to iPadOS
But if what you are saying is true...then does that mean Apple has no clue what they are doing and did not test the products with the existing accessories? That does not seem like Apple to me...they have great quality control. It does not seem realistic to think Apple did not test new products to work with existing accessories.
These are standard UA testing steps....
What I’m saying is… they didn’t set out to make a new iPad Pro to alienate MK users. The Apple Pencil been out longer than the MK and it’s been compatible with 3 generations of iPad Pros.
I think in the processing of building the new 12.9” iPad Pro.. tested it on the MK and realized it doesn’t fit. IMO, the new display technology caused a hindrance… which couldn’t be remedied. And after this realization… they went out to build a brand new MK (then the white model became an idea). Is it right? Absolutely not… because after the fact, you could assume that it was an deliberate act.
If it was deliberate, Apple would have called in the magic keyboard 2 or something like that and told us all about the improvements. They purposely tried to sweep this under the rug.
I would have to disagree...the models they used for testing would have been tested last year sometime. IMHO they new the Mk would not work with the new model and just moved forward anyway. Did they design it to not work? Well not sure...but having knowledge it would not work about a year ago would seem to be deliberate to me....
They spend a great deal of time in product testing with an engineer assigned for just about every kind of user acceptance there is. They even have an engineer to design how the box opens to provide a better user experience.
To then think they did not know well ahead of time that this was an issue is not realistic.
I have the ipp 12.9 2018 version. It works great.I see no reason to upgrade.
Also, Apple knew what they were doing with the MK. It's Cook's mo (I realize Cook has been very successful as Apple's CEO).However, just maybe, you will able to use the old one (old?) with the new 12.9 pro? we'll see...
Also, Apple knew what they were doing with the MK. It's Cook's mo (I realize Cook has been very successful as Apple's CEO).However, just maybe, you will able to use the old one (old?) with the new 12.9 pro? we'll see...
There are hundreds and hundreds of say hundreds of games for iOS but they all seem for the iPhone and basic iPad to not eat up all the CPU,GPU and RAM.
If you been playing PC games and are a hard core PC gamer and look at the iOS games it looks like you got into a time machine with all those 2D basic games.
Now there are some high end 3D games for iOS just not many and it still nothing like high end gaming PC playing GTA on high end setting.
If I buy the new high end iPad pro for well over $2000 or max out for well over $3000 I want gaming that close to PC gaming not some iOS gaming like experience.
You have the hardware power now program for the hardware. Make a section at app store called iPad pro 3D gaming where people can get 3D games close to experience of PC gaming.
Not saying people that are into gaming are going by the iPad over playstation, Xbox and PC desktop computer but please with the hardware make some high end games only for the iPad pro.
What is it you hate about iOS?
If you are looking for a desktop version of Photoshop, Microsoft Office, GIMP, Open Office,Adobe Premiere Pro or Final Cut Pro that is not going to happen.
They are made for a keyboard and mouse not touchscreen.
You cannot port a desktop software made for a keyboard and mouse to touchscreen.
The 11" do, the new 12.9 is different size somehow apparently.
iPad has always been a iPad to me, no keyboard or pencil ever.
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I don't hate it. It's just wasted on this hardware. The os just isn't sophisticated enough for the hardware.
After seeing the report that the first version of the MK would not work with the new 12.9” iPP, supposedly due to thickness, I did a little ‘informal’ testing with my 2018 12.9” model. The 2021 model is apparently .5 mm thicker, which according to the report from some French publication, makes it too thick to fit in the first MK. I stacked 5 sheets of 20 weight paper which is also 0.5 mm thick and the MK closed around the iPad and paper just as it would without it. I even tried 8 sheets of paper and again, the MK keyboard closed fine, though with maybe ever so slight bit of gap.
If the existing MK doesn’t work with the new iPP, it due to something other than ‘thickness’. The ‘new’ MK is compatible with the new and 2 previous versions of the iPP 12.9” which implies to me that it has the same smart connector and magnetic mounting points. I’m quite curious to see exactly why the new iPP cannot work with the existing MK. I didn’t have any plans to upgrade to the new iPP yet but if this is true, I absolutely won’t be upgrading this generation—dick move by Apple if this situation plays out as true.
If the existing MK doesn’t work with the new iPP, it due to something other than ‘thickness’. The ‘new’ MK is compatible with the new and 2 previous versions of the iPP 12.9” which implies to me that it has the same smart connector and magnetic mounting points. I’m quite curious to see exactly why the new iPP cannot work with the existing MK. I didn’t have any plans to upgrade to the new iPP yet but if this is true, I absolutely won’t be upgrading this generation—dick move by Apple if this situation plays out as true.
For me, I feel that a lot of the problem is due to apps, not so much the OS. Which is largely out of Apple’s jurisdiction.
For example, the google drive apps are still missing a lot of functionality compared to their browser counterparts. A way of quickly switching between multiple google documents would be most welcome. I still can’t reply to comments in the google classroom app, nor is there a google forms app (the iPad browser version is still very clunky). This is really one of the remaining few reasons I can’t ditch my laptop and go all-in on my iPad.
Apps like fantastical, LumaFusion, Apollo and notability show how better the iPad experience can be compared to a conventional PC with the right software. Unfortunately, not enough developers are playing ball.
I am hoping that thanks to catalyst, it will be easier to port Mac apps to iPads. Apple giving the iPad Pro’s the same specs as every other M1 Mac in the market currently is their way of saying - your Mac app is going to run just as well on an iPad Pro, so why not?
For example, the google drive apps are still missing a lot of functionality compared to their browser counterparts. A way of quickly switching between multiple google documents would be most welcome. I still can’t reply to comments in the google classroom app, nor is there a google forms app (the iPad browser version is still very clunky). This is really one of the remaining few reasons I can’t ditch my laptop and go all-in on my iPad.
Apps like fantastical, LumaFusion, Apollo and notability show how better the iPad experience can be compared to a conventional PC with the right software. Unfortunately, not enough developers are playing ball.
I am hoping that thanks to catalyst, it will be easier to port Mac apps to iPads. Apple giving the iPad Pro’s the same specs as every other M1 Mac in the market currently is their way of saying - your Mac app is going to run just as well on an iPad Pro, so why not?
If you are looking for more multitasking like a floating window that is not going to happen on a small screen. So at the most you can have is two apps running on the screen at one time.
It is not windows or OS X where you can have say like 10 apps running and dragging the mouse around and placing the window over other window or stacking the windows.
There is not enough display screen to have some thing like a floating window.
How about sharing with people here why you find it amusing 16gb ram and an M1 chip in an iPad might be overkill is amusing then? Instead of wrongly accusing people of being biased when it's a legitimate thing to question.Have you read this yet?
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Or do you just come on here to disagree with everything anyone says because they don't have brand loyalty to Apple?