2021 Ipad Pros

[tbayrgs]

I would purchase the 12.9' 2tb version in a heartbeat if FCP was available for iPadOS.

I suspect you might actually get your wish come WWDC this June.

There‘s no significant reason to start portraying the iPP as a Macbook equivalent, marketing the M1 and even listing the RAM (something they’ve never done before) unless we’re going to see some significant ‘pro’ level type software changes on iPadOS.

 

[Awesomesince86]

I suspect you might actually get your wish come WWDC this June.

There‘s no significant reason to start portraying the iPP as a Macbook equivalent, marketing the M1 and even listing the RAM (something they’ve never done before) unless we’re going to see some significant ‘pro’ level type software changes on iPadOS.

Agreed. But when it comes to tech, never bet on what's rumored or promised, bet on what's available now.

 

[Shanghaichica]

No good to tell the koolaid drinkers that. They think apple everything is AMAZING and everything else is garbage. I have 2 android tablets, and 3 ipads right now and like I said, besides the eyecandy silliness that don't matter on iOS apps, there is not difference in scaling or anything like that between it and android apps. I never understood these comments other than it comes from crazed fans of apple never ever owning anything else and believing the hype machine (apple marketing) and every word that they spew.

I don't have any high end android tablets. However I fail to see why the tab S7/S7+ isn't every bit as good as the ipad pro. Once you put aside OS pretences, they both do the same things and in some cases the samsung tablets will do more.

In actual fact, since I mostly use my ipad pro for watching videos the Tab S7+ would be better because of the oled display and the aspect ratio.

Yes the ipad is good but it doesn't mean there aren't good alternatives.

 

[tbayrgs]

Agreed. But when it comes to tech, never bet on what's rumored or promised, bet on what's available now.

Completely agree. I choose my tech based on what it can do now—assuming some functionality will come with updates to software in the future is just a recipe for dissappointment.

 

[Abazigal]

I don't have any high end android tablets. However I fail to see why the tab S7/S7+ isn't every bit as good as the ipad pro. Once you put aside OS pretences, they both do the same things and in some cases the samsung tablets will do more.

In actual fact, since I mostly use my ipad pro for watching videos the Tab S7+ would be better because of the oled display and the aspect ratio.

Yes the ipad is good but it doesn't mean there aren't good alternatives.

The TabS7 is just weird. My school is using miracast dongles to project our laptops wirelessly to the school projector. My colleague has a tab S7 and since the Note 9 connects to the projector via Dex just fine wirelessly, I thought he would be able to project his tablet to it as well.

The same way I mirror my ipad to the projector via my Apple TV.

First, we couldn’t find a way to trigger dex from the control centre (but the option is there in the Note 9). Instead, we had to search for Dex in settings, then tap on some option to activate it, and even then, I get a desktop mode on the screen, with no easy way of controlling it via the tablet.

Finally, we gave up. I think that is probably the last time he will bring is Tab 7 to work ever again.

There was also a funny incident much earlier where he wanted to use it for a zoom meeting and had problems connected his galaxy buds to it.

I am not sure why there is such a huge disparity in functionality between two presumably premium samsung devices. With my apple devices, everything works pretty consistently.

But that incident is just one of many examples of why I continue to stick with Apple products.

 

[Awesomesince86]

The TabS7 is just weird. My school is using miracast dongles to project our laptops wirelessly to the school projector. My colleague has a tab S7 and since the Note 9 connects to the projector via Dex just fine wirelessly, I thought he would be able to project his tablet to it as well.

The same way I mirror my ipad to the projector via my Apple TV.

First, we couldn’t find a way to trigger dex from the control centre (but the option is there in the Note 9). Instead, we had to search for Dex in settings, then tap on some option to activate it, and even then, I get a desktop mode on the screen, with no easy way of controlling it via the tablet.

Finally, we gave up. I think that is probably the last time he will bring is Tab 7 to work ever again.

There was also a funny incident much earlier where he wanted to use it for a zoom meeting and had problems connected his galaxy buds to it.

I am not sure why there is such a huge disparity in functionality between two presumably premium samsung devices. With my apple devices, everything works pretty consistently.

But that incident is just one of many examples of why I continue to stick with Apple products.

Sounds like a lot of user error to me

 

[Abazigal]

Sounds like a lot of user error to me

On the other hand, I showed another colleague at work how to unlock her iPhone and MBA with her Apple Watch and I think Apple has just earned another long-term customer.

Maybe it is user error on my end, but it also goes to show why Apple is as financially successful as it is. Apple just plays the whole system integration better than anyone else, and if costs a few bucks more, people are more than happy to pay for it.

Seems like something the competition could learn a thing or two about.

 

[Steve Adams]

Apple does that, at the expense of many other things. Such as end user control. It's apple's way or the highway which I am sick of now. Close a program on windows, hit x. on mac, hit red button to minimize like the yellow minimize, then goto the menu and find the program opened in that menu and close it. Or, Here, this is how you are going to organize your phone apps and screens and you are going to like it. I am done with the iOS walled garden. BTW, your little anecdote about not being able to cast to screen is the exact opposite experience I had. My ipad would not do it, and my little cheap samsung did it perfectly.

 

[Awesomesince86]

On the other hand, I showed another colleague at work how to unlock her iPhone and MBA with her Apple Watch and I think Apple has just earned another long-term customer.

Maybe it is user error on my end, but it also goes to show why Apple is as financially successful as it is. Apple just plays the whole system integration better than anyone else, and if costs a few bucks more, people are more than happy to pay for it.

Seems like something the competition could learn a thing or two about.

You realize Android has had smart unlock which is similar to what you are describing for like 4 years now, right?

 

[Abazigal]

You realize Android has had smart unlock which is similar to what you are describing for like 4 years now, right?

Many things that Apple do aren’t always the first or the most original. But I find what Apple does best is take an emerging product category with a frustrating user experience and deliver a polished product made possible by its control over both the hardware and software.

And that’s ultimately what I like about the Apple ecosystem - the cohesive experience it enables.

I am currently still on the fence as to whether I want to upgrade my 2018 iPad Pro (I suppose there is no harm in waiting till WWDC?). For me at least, Apple faces more competition from their older generations of products than whatever the rest of the industry has to offer. That’s how far it has pulled ahead of the competition, IMO.

 

[Awesomesince86]

Many things that Apple do aren’t always the first or the most original. But I find what Apple does best is take an emerging product category with a frustrating user experience and deliver a polished product made possible by its control over both the hardware and software.

And that’s ultimately what I like about the Apple ecosystem - the cohesive experience it enables.

I am currently still on the fence as to whether I want to upgrade my 2018 iPad Pro (I suppose there is no harm in waiting till WWDC?). For me at least, Apple faces more competition from their older generations of products than whatever the rest of the industry has to offer. That’s how far it has pulled ahead of the competition, IMO.

That's understandable. Apple are very polished and when they introduce something they typically deliver. I just get annoyed with how they introduce features that have been around in other OSes and act like they invested it and that they are so innovative. It always makes me shake my head.

 

[rhinosrcool]

I don't have any high end android tablets. However I fail to see why the tab S7/S7+ isn't every bit as good as the ipad pro. Once you put aside OS pretences, they both do the same things and in some cases the samsung tablets will do more.

In actual fact, since I mostly use my ipad pro for watching videos the Tab S7+ would be better because of the oled display and the aspect ratio.

Yes the ipad is good but it doesn't mean there aren't good alternatives.

Yes. My Tab s7+ is my favorite tablet. The apps are good and it works great with my Note 20. I have an Ipad Pro 12.9 3rd gen that is excellent, too. And, I have an iPhone 12 Pro Max which I really like. However, my favorites are the S7+ and Note 20. Both Samsung and Apple make great products.

 

[Steve Adams]

Yes. My Tab s7+ is my favorite tablet. The apps are good and it works great with my Note 20. I have an Ipad Pro 12.9 3rd gen that is excellent, too. And, I have an iPhone 12 Pro Max which I really like. However, my favorites are the S7+ and Note 20. Both Samsung and Apple make great products.

Exactly this. Just because one uses a certain device does not mean that every other device is garbage (although you would never say it with all the rampant fanboys on both sides). I know one guy on another forum who runs around every article leaving posts about whatever he uses is the latest and greatest. He was slagging iPhone for years when he was using "the best" version of android phone. from pixel 2XL to nokia. after that he moved to apple and started in on how every android phone is garbage. Now he's using a Samsung and every other brand of android and iPhone is crap.
It's laughable that people think like this. I am bored with iOS. It's been essentially the same since it's beginnings. It still has all it's shortcomings. Is it terrible? No. It's it stale....yes.

I am moving to android because I want a pen supported phone for work, some new found freedom of customization and interaction with my windows computers using your phone. If apple gives me some new customizations, brings imessage and facetime to windows, and adds pencil support to their iphone's I may come back. But as it stands now, the same ole, same ole is not good enough anymore.

 

[michael9891]

If I was on the lookout for a tablet, I'd at least consider one of the new 12.9 iPads. But I'd want 512gb with it having no external storage, so £1,300 is a lot to pay.

I find it funny how people continually bash the Tab S7+ for it's "lesser" apps. I've yet to encounter an app that looks bad due to a lack of native support. Instagram for example looks great on it, 10x better than the blown up iPhone version on iPad which looks dreadful.

Still, I'm interested to see how the new screen compares to previous gen models.

 

[Steve Adams]

If I was on the lookout for a tablet, I'd at least consider one of the new 12.9 iPads. But I'd want 512gb with it having no external storage, so £1,300 is a lot to pay.

I find it funny how people continually bash the Tab S7+ for it's "lesser" apps. I've yet to encounter an app that looks bad due to a lack of native support. Instagram for example looks great on it, 10x better than the blown up iPhone version on iPad which looks dreadful.

Still, I'm interested to see how the new screen compares to previous gen models.

Exactly. Like I said, the android apps work and scale the same if not better than the blown up iphone apps on ipad, but iOS versions of apps have little gimmicky things like when you turn a page it looks like a page. Things that my people's silly minds go ooooooooh.

 

[Awesomesince86]

If I was on the lookout for a tablet, I'd at least consider one of the new 12.9 iPads. But I'd want 512gb with it having no external storage, so £1,300 is a lot to pay.

I find it funny how people continually bash the Tab S7+ for it's "lesser" apps. I've yet to encounter an app that looks bad due to a lack of native support. Instagram for example looks great on it, 10x better than the blown up iPhone version on iPad which looks dreadful.

Still, I'm interested to see how the new screen compares to previous gen models.

Gotta disagree here when it comes to apps. Maybe it's just that we use different apps, but for example Microsoft Teams (which is odd because Microsoft paired with Samsung) has a worse UI on the Galaxy Tab. I've noticed it in other apps like Yahoo Fantasy (which doesn't rotate in landscape without GoodLock installed) also has an inferior UI.

But I agree these aren't showstoppers. They're just minor inconveniences. They don't effect functionality, these just look worse.

 

[Steve Adams]

All my microsoft apps scale perfectly on my samsung galaxy a8 device. They did on my iPad as well. But I have actaully seen more apps on my Ipad goto a large iphone sized layout than on my samsung. Probably a 2 to 1 ratio of bad scaling apps on iPad.

 

[Awesomesince86]

All my microsoft apps scale perfectly on my samsung galaxy a8 device. They did on my iPad as well. But I have actaully seen more apps on my Ipad goto a large iphone sized layout than on my samsung. Probably a 2 to 1 ratio of bad scaling apps on iPad.

Sure, if you are talking about iOS apps where there isn't an iPad specific app. But that's fairly rare. But iOS apps that have ipad specific apps, which is most of the major apps, look better and have better layouts for taking advantage of the larger screen. Another good example is the official Twitter app.

 

[Steve Adams]

Sure, if you are talking about iOS apps where there isn't an iPad specific app. But that's fairly rare. But iOS apps that have ipad specific apps, which is most of the major apps, look better and have better layouts for taking advantage of the larger screen. Another good example is the official Twitter app.

That's exactly whats being talked about with android apps here...So it's the same on both platforms.

 

[The Game 161]

The tab S7 plus is really to me the only android tablet worth buying. It ticks most boxes if you want a table that isn’t the ipad. However not all but some of the apps i used were not very good. So the weakness for that tablet for me was app related. Depends on the apps you use though. Twitter is horrible on the tab s7 plus in my experience.

Apps is why I decided to stick to the ipad. That said would I recommend the tab S7? Yeah i would.

 

[Ludatyk]

That's exactly whats being talked about with android apps here...So it's the same on both platforms.

Comparing iPhone apps that doesn’t scale well on the iPad to developers actually supporting a bigger screen are two different things. One has to do with the OS, while the other has to do with the developer themself. I, for one... value an app that takes advantage of the bigger screen than an app that just scales to fit the bigger screen.

Even on my Fold2… BaconReader isn’t near being popular for Reddit clients, I use it because it takes advantage of the larger screen. I prefer apps that adopt a sidebar or two column layout, helps for better navigation.

 

[maj71303]

I have a 3rd generation 12.9 iPad Pro. My question before these came out was what will it do that the current and couple past iPads can't. After the announcement I chose to keep what I have and not worry about it. My reasoning was the software is the same so that negates the need to upgrade. I don't take pictures with my iPad so a camera update is useless to me.

The elephant in the room with the iPad has always been software, which doesn't lend it to being a Pro device. What is the end game for the iPad? Or, what is the endgame for the Mac? The development tools are almost universal now so something is going to have to give. The Soc is even the same now. Either the Mac or iPad, one of them is going to have to be phased out. The scale is tipping to the mobile end. They say they will be keeping the two separate but I don't think they will have a choice in the long run.

Microsoft and Google are becoming more and more cozy finally. The market moves in mysterious fashion and thinking about it, I feel something is brewing and they are gonna be caught flat footed in the long run.

 

[mi7chy]

It's above average hardware gimped by software. There are already sales on it for $100 off at Costco and $50 off at Walmart for the 11" iPad Pro 2021 if you want to try it out.

https://slickdeals.net/f/14990030-2021-ipad-pro-50off-749-walmart

 

[The_Interloper]

I have owned almost every iPad Pro model since Gen 1 and will never buy one again as every single one of them has been affected by "touch disease". There is something inherently wrong I think with the ProMotion display that cannot be fixed by software. Every reset has resulted in the problem returning eventually.

Since the new iPad Air is basically a parts-bin knockoff of the 2018 11", I'm not touching that either.

 

[The Game 161]

Comparing iPhone apps that doesn’t scale well on the iPad to developers actually supporting a bigger screen are two different things. One has to do with the OS, while the other has to do with the developer themself. I, for one... value an app that takes advantage of the bigger screen than an app that just scales to fit the bigger screen.

Even on my Fold2… BaconReader isn’t near being popular for Reddit clients, I use it because it takes advantage of the larger screen. I prefer apps that adopt a sidebar or two column layout, helps for better navigation.

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It’s a shame Apollo isn’t available on android. By far the best Reddit app IMO