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iPad Pro 2022 is Now the Year of the Pro, so are you Now Considering an M1 iPad Pro?
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Now that there’s swap on the iPad though, that’s one step closer for Mac App Store apps to run as-is on M-series chipset iPads (providing there’s keyboard and mouse attached).
Run as is would mean Apple should tweak the OS to make them run on iPadOS despite the (very) different environment. Also, IMO there is zero chances that Apple would allow Mac Apps outside of store apps (that is without the 30% cut) on iPad.
Different environment yes but getting a wee bit closer.
And yeah, they’re definitely not going to make it free for all (unless mandated by regulatory bodies). Hence, I mentioned Mac App Store specifically in my post.
iPadOS is a joke of an OS compared to macOS when a keyboard and touchpad are attached.
For touch operation iPadOS is great, but with a keyboard, Apple just dual boot macOS / iPadOS on the iPad and the iPad will become a revolutionary device. Tablet > iPadOS. Desktop > macOS.
This craze to make iPadOS desktop friendly is just stupid when macOS already does that and it could easily run on the M1 iPads.
For touch operation iPadOS is great, but with a keyboard, Apple just dual boot macOS / iPadOS on the iPad and the iPad will become a revolutionary device. Tablet > iPadOS. Desktop > macOS.
This craze to make iPadOS desktop friendly is just stupid when macOS already does that and it could easily run on the M1 iPads.
I don’t think so. I think iOS devices (iPhone mainly) are actually helping pave the way for greater Mac adoption.
Much like we have all sorts of vehicles, there’s room for smartphone, tablet, laptop and desktop (unless something truly revolutionary replaces them).
Yeah but we don't want macOS running on an iPad. We want iPadOS. iPadOS is modern, secure, performant and delightful to use.
Using macOS is much like using a typewriter to write a novel today.
As a tablet, I don't want macOS on it either. But when I dock it in desktop mode, macOS is far far more productive than iPadOS. On the software side this can be done either by dual booting or by having the iPadOS UI running on top of macOS when in tablet mode. After all, macOS, iOS and iPadOS are all the same OS with a different UI and optimizations under the hood.
I use both and I tried to like the iPad Pro as a desktop machine, but I can't. It can be a desktop replacement only for light users; for anything other than Word, PDF, Mail, etc, I have to use macOS.
I would easily pay the price of an iPadPro 12.9" and MacBook combined if Apple would give me a device that can run as a tablet and as a laptop combined. Exactly what Microsoft is doing with Surface, but with Apple software.
I use both and I tried to like the iPad Pro as a desktop machine, but I can't. It can be a desktop replacement only for light users; for anything other than Word, PDF, Mail, etc, I have to use macOS.
I would easily pay the price of an iPadPro 12.9" and MacBook combined if Apple would give me a device that can run as a tablet and as a laptop combined. Exactly what Microsoft is doing with Surface, but with Apple software.
What's the difference? All I see is a built-in keyboard vs. a touchscreen, and being able to do different or more things like actually write iPad apps on a Mac or tinker with the OS backend, or draw with an iPad. I'd like iPads to be more pro/power-user focused, but they just aren't, so they're not a replacement that makes Macs outdated. At least not at this moment.
I guess if the typewriter comparison was meant to be literal, then you're spot-on, I love my "typewriter" keyboard
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Strong disagree. iPadOS with the mouse and keyboard is really good, in the multitasking view it is very easy to quickly create a Split View and pull apps out of a Split View using just the keyboard and mouse. They should add a few keyboard shortcuts to quickly let you adjust the type of Split View and to quickly create and add an app to a Split View. Otherwise the iPad is fantastic with a keyboard and mouse. The iPad should remain true to itself as the most flexible system apple builds, it should also keep its unique Split View windowing system and I wish they had left the floating windows on macOS where they belong.
Would you kindly elaborate on your specific computing needs, to enlighten us about the expertise warranting those sweeping statements ?
Please no, this vision where somehow the transformation of docking your device will suddenly be a good user experience is a fantasy that no one has solved (Stage Manager doesn’t solve it). If you think waiting years for developers to support al the existing iPad features is a chore imagine the wait for supporting this transforming system …
It can be a desktop replacement for more than just those things, it is all about your workflow, and many people can use and love to use iPads. This fanatic desire to see iPadOS become macOS when docked likely appeals to such a tiny minority of users (that hang out in Internet forums) that if they actually did it the rest of us who use our iPads for hours every day would be very annoyed at this docking undocking behaviour.
Stick with the mac, if you don’t actually need a touchscreen don’t buy a touchscreen based system, If all you want from your iPad in iPad mode is a glorified reader buy the cheapest iPad and let the rest of us have a nice powerful iPadOS that stays true to the touch-first paradigm which is absolutely delightful to use.
The iPad (prior to iOS 16) had a much better windowing system (though it isn’t as discoverable as I’d like) and the touch first drag and drop flow is amazing. Apps that don’t adopt the latest iPadOS features are the main problem these days as most of the rest of the OS is getting really good. Are there necessary improvements needed? Of course, but the big thing I don’t want is iPadOS to try and turn into macOS.
Sorry I missed that! My bad. Yeah I can see some Mac App store coming at some point if the developers optimise them for the iPad, but honestly it's not like the Mac App store is a very rich platform
They used to put the best processor in the *phone*. I don't see why the tablet can't be first.
It is very vague at the moment exactly what the limit is... Hence why my paragraph you quoted was full of questions... We won't have answers until this is fully fleshed out...
Either way, my point was simply that swap will require physical storage space which is more cramped on devices with little on board...
I wouldn't be surprised if Apple softens the storage demands by capping swap at 1xRAM or so... But we'll see where it ends up.
They really changed the tone. Turns out a lot of Pros were unsatisfied and Apple did something. Now the real questions are not what will we get for WWDC next year but what will the Pros get and what will everybody else get?
I do believe that we are starting to see the way paved to get Mac apps on our M Pro devices.
It doesn't say anything about the 11" Pro, the vast majority of iPad-related marketing shots have always been on the 12.9". They love to push that flagship iPad, and the images look awesome because it has the most screen real estate.
that's what Samsung does, allows you to use up to 1XRAM (so 8 on 8GB device etc.), but also less or nothing if you choose
This isn't just a Samsung thing, pretty much all major Android device makers now allow virtual/expandable memory from 2-16GB depending on base RAM & storage on the device. I'd be at least slightly surprised if Apple doesn't allow some amount of flexibility like the others over in Android space.
If you don’t mind how much of loss did you take on the iPP? Seems resale values are rather low for iPads.
yeah I know, was only really $200AUD for the year I had it. I did get it $200 cheaper via work so I guess $400 less than new price.
M1 won't make my media apps run faster so no. Nothing in this year's OS upgrade makes me think I want to use an iPad for any work outside of occasional note taking or video calls.
I would potentially consider an upgrade if the mini-LED screen tech gets better. I love the mini-LED system on my MacBook Pro and want the next generation of that tech on my iPad.
I would potentially consider an upgrade if the mini-LED screen tech gets better. I love the mini-LED system on my MacBook Pro and want the next generation of that tech on my iPad.