I have two watches, a starlight Alpine Loop S, and a Green Alpine Loop M, same as the rest of you ship by September 23. My Apple Cash got charged on the 9th but then I got it back a few days ago. Verizon told me I would get charged once shipped. I also ordered the AirPods Pro 2 from Verizon and that one says estimated to deliver on the 23rd unlike the watches that say ship by sept 23. Mine also says backordered while the AirPods said preordered. Weird.