iPad Pro 2024 iPad Pro - Low Res :(((

[Zest28]

While they could improve PPI, the display is the last thing I would change in the iPad Pro.

Colors are Good, resolution is more than enough unless you are really looking for problems as the viewing distance is enough to mitigate the “lower” resolution.

Personally I never had issue with the res, but that’s just me.

The iPhone and iPad are used at a similar distance, so it make sense that the iPad has a similar PPI too. And I do notice the lower PPI sometimes. The iPhone is always 100% sharp all the time.

However, I understand why Apple wouldn’t do this as it would raise the costs of the iPads to an absurd amount. And the price of the current iPads is already very high.

The iPhone is simply Apple their premiere flagship device which has no compromise (which is why it cost similar to an iPad while being much smaller).

 

[Zest28]

It really dosen’t need it. It’s not like you have it right up on your face like an iPhone.

Tablets are used at a similar distance as smartphones.

Maybe if you use an iPad as a “laptop” with keyboard on a desk, but that’s not really using the iPad as a tablet, but more like a laptop.

But the reason why Apple made this compromise is not because “it doesn’t need it”, but because it would lead to very expensive iPads that very few people would buy.

 

[stevemiller]

It really dosen’t need it. It’s not like you have it right up on your face like an iPhone.

I don’t know how you all are holding iPads and iphones that you think there’s some huge difference. I don’t hold an iPad with an arm perfectly outstretched, and I don’t hold a phone 4 inches from my face either. Both are handheld devices and held at basically same distance.

 

[Kahnforever]

I don’t know how you all are holding iPads and iphones that you think there’s some huge difference. I don’t hold an iPad with an arm perfectly outstretched, and I don’t hold a phone 4 inches from my face either. Both are handheld devices and held at basically same distance.

You keep coming here and arguing, even after multiple people have addressed the errors in your statements about this topic.

Yes, people hold iPads and iPhones at different distances. I’ve done physics research in the past on iPhones and iPads on multiple use cases, including distances held, the amount of torque required at the elbow and wrist joint to hold an iPad given certain weights, etc.

There are two main reasons why there is a natural tendency and a need to hold a device with a larger screen farther away vs. a device with a smaller screen: 1. The content on the smaller device is generally scaled smaller. That means most things are smaller on the screen: text, buttons, icons, etc. The eyes have to focus on those elements and the smaller those elements are, the more difficult they are to see at farther distances. 2. Field of view. The larger the screen, the farther away from the eyes it has to be because of the limitations of field of view. The eyes naturally pixelate in their periphery. So a larger screened iPad needs to be held farther away from the eyes for all of its content to be viewable without peripheral pixelation.

There are tables that include optimal viewing distances for a series of different screen sizes.

None of this means that everyone always at all times holds their iPad farther from their eyes than an iPhone, but the physical size of the screen necessitates it be held farther away for optimal viewing.

Regardless of any of this, even at the same viewing distance as my iPhone, I just did a test of two of the same websites and I can’t really see more pixelation on my M4 iPad 13” Pro vs. my iPhone 14 Pro Max.

 

[stevemiller]

You keep coming here and arguing, even after multiple people have addressed the errors in your statements about this topic.

Yes, people hold iPads and iPhones at different distances. I’ve done physics research in the past on iPhones and iPads on multiple use cases, including distances held, the amount of torque required at the elbow and wrist joint to hold an iPad given certain weights, etc.

There are two main reasons why there is a natural tendency and a need to hold a device with a larger screen farther away vs. a device with a smaller screen: 1. The content on the smaller device is generally scaled smaller. That means most things are smaller on the screen: text, buttons, icons, etc. The eyes have to focus on those elements and the smaller those elements are, the more difficult they are to see at farther distances. 2. Field of view. The larger the screen, the farther away from the eyes it has to be because of the limitations of field of view. The eyes naturally pixelate in their periphery. So a larger screened iPad needs to be held farther away from the eyes for all of its content to be viewable without peripheral pixelation.

There are tables that include optimal viewing distances for a series of different screen sizes.

None of this means that everyone always at all times holds their iPad farther from their eyes than an iPhone, but the physical size of the screen necessitates it be held farther away for optimal viewing.

Regardless of any of this, even at the same viewing distance as my iPhone, I just did a test of two of the same websites and I can’t really see more pixelation on my M4 iPad 13” Pro vs. my iPhone 14 Pro Max.

Cool. I can see the difference. Glad all your physics told me I’m wrong though.

And I hold my iPad and iPhone about 16” away both. But I guess that also just isn’t true because you have done research papers. My issue is now resolved.

 

[rafark]

which is 50% more pixels than a typical 4K display. The power consumption, GPU strain and production cost isn’t worth it

The other issue, of course, is GPU power, which also would need to increase quadratically with PPI.

Do you think an iPad with a frigging m4 (which is way overpowered) couldn’t handle 50% more pixels?

 

[klasma]

Do you think an iPad with a frigging m4 (which is way overpowered) couldn’t handle 50% more pixels?

Well, obviously, with 50% more pixels, performance will go down by a third, for example frame rate in demanding games, or complex scenes in 3D modeling software. Or alternatively, power consumption by the GPU will go up 50%. There is no free lunch.

 

[rafark]

Well, obviously, with 50% more pixels, performance will go down by a third, for example frame rate in demanding games, or complex scenes in 3D modeling software. Or alternatively, power consumption by the GPU will go up 50%. There is no free lunch.

Yh, but the m4 is plenty powerful for an iPad, it’s a computer chip after all. I don’t think just power alone would be the reason for not increasing the ppi